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  • 2_headedmonster
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 2251

    #361
    Re: Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?

    Originally posted by rspencer86
    Here are my observations:

    1) One-handed catch animation trigger too frequently for all receivers.
    2) Spectacular catch animations are accessible to third and fourth string guys that really should not have the ability to pull off catches like with any real frequency.
    3) If you have a safety over the top, what effect does that have? I am still not sure. It doesn't look like there are any three-man (two defenders + receiver) canned battle animations, so the safety is not involved in those. Too often the safety doesn't even try for a swat and just "attaches" to the animation as the receiver is coming back to the ground. When the safety does try for a swat, he misses the vast majority of the time. So unless the game is giving a penalty to the catch chance % if a second defender is in the direct vicinity, I'm not sure if having a safety over top is helpful at all.

    With all that said, it seems like the overall success rate of aggressive catches is close to where it needs to be. Just seems like there are slightly too many with lower-level receivers and when there is a second defender present.
    All of this...especially point three in conjunction with unresponsive commands when controlling the safety.

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    • MustangLife03
      Rookie
      • May 2015
      • 77

      #362
      Re: Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?

      Is anybody getting a ton of drops using aggressive catch with good wr's like D. Hopkins, A Cooper, J Landry, etc. Im getting about 5 a game throwing 30-35 times a game

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      • Find_the_Door
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        • Jan 2012
        • 4051

        #363
        Re: Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?

        Originally posted by fsujoseph
        It's overpowered, kids online just throw it up in double coverage to Gronkowski every play. Its sad
        Was just a victim of this.... guy was trash salad otherwise. I even ran two man under, cover 1, blitzed.... I'm a competent player too (currently 21-8).
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        • Candyman5
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          • Nov 2006
          • 14380

          #364
          Re: Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?

          Originally posted by Skyboxer
          I was in league with a user controlled Suh.. so maybe my memory is skewed lol

          I guess in the end less pressure is better than too much but I hope it's tuned a bit.
          I'll hold opinion I guess until I get hands on and start my usual long night of testing..
          Hey don't bring me into this. Lol.
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          • kaletore11
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            • Sep 2013
            • 2549

            #365
            Re: Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?

            Offline it's perfectly fine, both on the cpu and user side. While there are too many one handers, the aggressive catch offers as big a risk as the reward so I like it.
            Online, I feel it's very overpowered and pretty much ruins the game for me. I can chuck one up to Megatron whenever I want and it will be a completion 9/10 times even if he's perfectly covered and it's a 50 yard bomb.

            Luckily, once they fix cfm I won't have to play online any more.
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            • Smoke6
              MVP
              • Apr 2011
              • 1454

              #366
              Re: Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?

              Originally posted by kaletore11
              Offline it's perfectly fine, both on the cpu and user side. While there are too many one handers, the aggressive catch offers as big a risk as the reward so I like it.
              Online, I feel it's very overpowered and pretty much ruins the game for me. I can chuck one up to Megatron whenever I want and it will be a completion 9/10 times even if he's perfectly covered and it's a 50 yard bomb.

              Luckily, once they fix cfm I won't have to play online any more.
              I feel the sameway

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              • jeb4056
                Pro
                • Oct 2008
                • 941

                #367
                Re: Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?

                I'm playing on All-Madden, and my WR's/TE's drop the Aggressive catch way more then they catch it in one on one situations.

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                • Smoke6
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1454

                  #368
                  Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                  Originally posted by Kingd803
                  But the ratings should determine the outcome anyways. Ratings should determine what animations a player has available to them. That's not the case? So will every receiver be able to do all catch animations?
                  Its seems so online, i just dont get it. How is it always these features can get exploited by everyone on the team including linemen?

                  Odell is a unique WR, we know that but going off what EA does to the game, why hasnt ths been a feature before Beckham? If anyone and can catch one handed like its nothing now!

                  Every Wr on the seahawks aggressive caught the ball on deep streaks on almost every possession my opponent had regardless of coverage, like ot was pre determined.

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                  • The_Gaming_Disciple
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 366

                    #369
                    Re: Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?

                    Originally posted by MustangLife03
                    Is anybody getting a ton of drops using aggressive catch with good wr's like D. Hopkins, A Cooper, J Landry, etc. Im getting about 5 a game throwing 30-35 times a game
                    I'm not sure if you would consider Kelvin Benjamin a good WR since it's only his second year in the league. However, he does have a considerable height advantage. I can say he has dropped plenty of balls for me when using aggressive catch, and especially against smaller DB's. I was playing Atlanta, and had a one on one against a DB, threw it in the end zone, used aggressive catch thinking it would be an easy 6, and as he came down with the ball the DB punched the ball from up under his hands, it went flying up into the air and was intercepted for a touch back, so there's that my friend...
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                    • NDAlum
                      ND
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 11453

                      #370
                      Re: Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?

                      Playing some test online CFM games I haven't seen this be an issue at all.

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                      • therizing02
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 4176

                        #371
                        Re: Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?

                        I've played 8 Week 1 games in an offline CFM and I don't see this as being overpowered at all. I was on the fence for a while, but I'm convinced that this is balanced.

                        I play on AP Default with Fatigue at 60 and Slow game speed. The only time I was worried that it might be out of balance was the KC/Houston game because Hopkins made 3 or 4 highlight reel catches. Other than that I have seen nothing out of the ordinary and very few SC top 10 plays.

                        Crommartie went down with an injury in the Jets game and they brought in Buster Skrine to cover Josh Gordon. Bad move. It was my only TD with the aggressive catch and I don't even USER catch. Completely different than when Revis and Crommartie were covering him.

                        My throws have been a little more conservative lately as well because I was starting to throw quite a few picks trying to get the ball deep. I use the matchup stick and look for mismatches and then watch the safety after the ball is snapped before trying to go deep.

                        Ratings matter, the aggressive catch isn't OP, and the gameplay is great!

                        Here are my week 1 scores:

                        NE-42 Pitt (me) 14
                        Bears(me) 41 Packers 30
                        KC(me) 40 Texans 34 OT
                        Miami(me) 23 Washington 20....best game of the day
                        Bills(me) 37 Colts 17
                        Browns(me) 31 Jets 21
                        Saints 32 Cardinals(me) 17
                        Chargers(me) 27 Lions 20

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                        • booker21
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 4928

                          #372
                          Re: Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?

                          It's time to tweaks some sliders. You won all games


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                          • therizing02
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 4176

                            #373
                            Re: Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?

                            Originally posted by booker21
                            It's time to tweaks some sliders. You won all games


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                            Look again....lost two games. One was a blowout. Should have probably lost the KC and Miami games. Was down two scores in the 4th in both.

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                            • MrBallaBoy21
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 670

                              #374
                              Re: Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?

                              I would just like to ask that the devs at least wait until people learn how to make the proper defensive adjustments to defend these receivers before making a decision about turning this down.

                              Really and truly I would like for the complainers to show game footage and explain the defensive adjustments they are making to try and stop it. Then, I want to know how good their defensive personnel is and the height, spec catch, CIT, and the jumping rating of the receiver that caught the ball.

                              The people I see complaining(from Twitch streams) are running cover 3(not right to defend this), playing press coverage, not making any pre snap adjustments, not spotlighting receivers or putting up purple zones, have mediocre corners and safeties, and are complaining about Herman Moore, Finneran, and so on snagging on them in single coverage.

                              I've even seen someone try to double Herman Moore with a line backer(man to man double), then when both the line backer and the corner(who is playing PRESS COVERAGE btw) get burned they say the game is broken. Succumbing to these kind of complaints are dangerous to game balance. There are a lot of people playing DC, MUT, and ranked that know how to defend this with proper defensive adjustments so from what I've seen this mechanic doesn't need tweaking at all, people just need to learn what defensive adjustments to make.
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                              • 2_headedmonster
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 2251

                                #375
                                Re: Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?

                                Originally posted by NDAlum
                                Playing some test online CFM games I haven't seen this be an issue at all.

                                All-Pro
                                WR Catch @ 45

                                No comment vs randoms online bc I'm not subjecting myself to that.
                                Cant truly gauge then...

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