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  • bkrich83
    Has Been
    • Jul 2002
    • 71582

    #31
    Re: Can We Talk About The Running Game?

    Originally posted by SolidSquid
    Could you tell use when the right time to use R2 vs L2 is?
    Yes as soon as I figure it out. As I said I am getting mixed results as I sort out the way the run game now plays.
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    • Smallville102001
      All Star
      • Mar 2015
      • 6542

      #32
      Re: Can We Talk About The Running Game?

      Originally posted by Gosens6
      Playing on default all pro, it seems as if myself nor the computer can get any sort of running game going. 2-3 yards a carry from both sides. It's like EA just completely nerfed the run game.

      I find myself passing way more often than I want too, because running the ball is such an unnecessary chore. It's like your o-line stops blocking when you call a run play. You get a few yards or tackled in the backfield almost every play.

      And this isn't be complaining that the game is too hard, I love the challenge in all pro this year, but am I the only one seeing this issue with the running game? Anyone finding success running? Or have the cpu be successful against them running the ball?


      Have only played 2 games default all pro but the CPU is running the ball ok like 4 yards attempt but me more like 2 yards on average and it just fells like no one blocks at all. I am having a lot of times where I have no where to go and I am getting hit at or be hind the line. I think blocking may be the part of the game that needs the biggest up grade when it comes to game play.

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      • Shoeit
        Rookie
        • Aug 2011
        • 7

        #33
        Re: Can We Talk About The Running Game?

        Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
        3 ypc isn't fantatic, but it's not terrible. If you could run twice and be left with 3rd and 3-4 every time, most teams would take that.
        The worst team rushing the ball in the NFL last year (Arizona Cardinals) averaged 3.3 YPC while Seattle boasted the the best yards per carry at 5.3. I would say anyone who is running a SIM CFM should aim for these numbers. I think the running game is improved from last year's Madden as it was way too easy to rack up yards on the ground last season.

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        • GameBreaker35
          Rookie
          • May 2012
          • 382

          #34
          Re: Can We Talk About The Running Game?

          Originally posted by Gosens6
          Playing on default all pro, it seems as if myself nor the computer can get any sort of running game going. 2-3 yards a carry from both sides. It's like EA just completely nerfed the run game.

          I find myself passing way more often than I want too, because running the ball is such an unnecessary chore. It's like your o-line stops blocking when you call a run play. You get a few yards or tackled in the backfield almost every play.

          And this isn't be complaining that the game is too hard, I love the challenge in all pro this year, but am I the only one seeing this issue with the running game? Anyone finding success running? Or have the cpu be successful against them running the ball?
          I'm not sure about CPU running ability yet, but I can assure you that I haven't had any trouble running the ball. I like to use Seattle due to my preference for power-run teams and I'm averaging 6 - 7 yards per carry. Beast - Mode is a big part of that, but I think the game mechanics reward certain elements. All-Pro Default with Normal Speed.

          If you are running zone blocking, are you counting the box and running to the match-up? Are you reading the key players movement? Are you hitting the designated hole in Gap-Blocking and Man Blocking concepts? Are you using the contextual controls correctly? Are you playing to your player's strength?

          I'm not saying that you aren't putting any thought into your playcalling because I'm not there to see, but I would be disappointed if someone could just call any run at any time and be successful. I want it to be rewarding when a run breaks for 7 yards or more.
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          • Gosens6
            All Star
            • Oct 2007
            • 6101

            #35
            Re: Can We Talk About The Running Game?

            Thanks a ton to all the guys offering gameplay tips. I've been playing more and more and I'm definitely having to change the way I run as opposed to years past.

            Ratings and the team you're using and playing against really makes a difference this year, along with reading the D and hitting your holes.

            Really appreciate the help, fellas. I'll keep practicing and practicing. Don't remember the last time I really had to think to be successful in Madden


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            • NDAlum
              ND
              • Jun 2010
              • 11453

              #36
              Re: Can We Talk About The Running Game?

              Isn't that exactly what we want!?!? lol

              That is my dream come true.
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              • Gosens6
                All Star
                • Oct 2007
                • 6101

                #37
                Re: Can We Talk About The Running Game?

                Originally posted by NDAlum
                Isn't that exactly what we want!?!? lol

                That is my dream come true.

                Lol yes! It's definitely a nice change of pace. All the suggestions here have really helped


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                • ehh
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 28962

                  #38
                  Re: Can We Talk About The Running Game?

                  I had no problem with the Jets running on the Patriots and in Buffalo against their stout defense (I posted vids of two long TD runs by Ivory in the media thread). The CPU running game has been another story, under 3 YPC in each exhibition game I've played.
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                  • TheDominator273
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 1065

                    #39
                    Re: Can We Talk About The Running Game?

                    I haven't had too much issue running, the key is not using speed burst until you make the cut needed to hit the hole on inside runs or your blockers set up for outside runs.

                    Knowing your personnel is also very important. Know who your better run blockers are and where the opponents weaker defenders are located. Counting numbers and avoiding running against loaded boxes or to the side where you don't have numbers are also a big part of the run game.

                    And if you are still unsuccessful, don't be afraid to use short passes as an extension of your run game until you get the defense on their heels and you can run with more success.

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                    • DJ
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 17756

                      #40
                      Re: Can We Talk About The Running Game?

                      Originally posted by roadman
                      After playing 4 games, I'm seeing results all over the place.

                      Peterson had 93 yards on me in 3 quarters, Lacy has run the ball well and Lacy couldn't run a lick vs the Titans.

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                      Same here. Varied results, which is the way it should be.
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                      • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 17294

                        #41
                        Re: Can We Talk About The Running Game?

                        I haven't played enough against the AI to tell if they can run much against me (only AI games have been the Draft Champions games which are 3 minute quarters so they rarely run). But I've run on them very successfully. I basically haven't used turbo unless I get into the open field. I generally use L2 to do a sort of stutter step while I figure out where the hole is and then cut into it while holding R1 (covers the ball and allows you to slide through the holes better). I'm enjoying the run game a lot.

                        I do have one question though. It says that holding L2 & R2 together changes running speed. Has anyone tested this out to see what exactly it does? I tried to do it a bit but didn't notice much; it may have allowed me to slow down a bit while I dissect the defense, but I'm not sure if it was just placebo effect or not.
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                        • T5063
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 802

                          #42
                          Re: Can We Talk About The Running Game?

                          I find the running game different this year, it takes while to get used to the controls.

                          BTW, CPU Adrian Peterson on Allpro ran for 111 yards 5.5 ypc against me last night.

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                          • Khanchus
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 116

                            #43
                            Re: Can We Talk About The Running Game?

                            multiple things to take in to account when judging the run game

                            how good is the defense and defenders

                            how good is your oline and scheme

                            play calling and what not

                            ....

                            i like the run game but it still has some adjustments to make... i still get caught up behind my oline and running into their back but other than that its good

                            the organic tackling made the run game so much better
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                            • dallas72
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 273

                              #44
                              Re: Can We Talk About The Running Game?

                              i only play all madden or custom sliders to make game realistic ... but running is tough .. play the tutorials and learn what to watch for .. madden tries to teach football 101 its very good advice
                              1 tip dont use sprint..***n and follow the holes and blockers.. use sprint only when u are past the DL or DE on sweeps

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                              • NoleFan
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 12856

                                #45
                                Can We Talk About The Running Game?

                                Just finished TEN (me) @ TB in coach mode...

                                B. Sankey: 20 CAR, 99 YDS
                                D. Martin: 17 CAR, 75 YDS, TD

                                This was on default all pro


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