Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

[The JareBear]

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I have the video on my twitch channel. I'll have too look. Seemed to be 95 plus for acceleration. I'll look and see


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Are the incoming CBs comparable at least?

[vikeking2]

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I simmed a season pre-patch Mariotta took a huge drop in overall. As I was looking through his attributes I saw his AWARENESS had dropped down to 4 in one season which was the number 1 cause of his overalls dropping so drastically. I just simmed a season and Mariotta dropped from 60-55 AWARENESS. Reloaded and simmed again and he dropped from 60-57, so seems that crazy regression issue was fixed.

I am really disappointed that they didnt fix the RESIGN issue. You still cannot resign your players until OFFSEASON and you have 1 chance to sign them.

The moral to the story is, this will be the last time I purchase Madden new. I will wait a month or so after release date and let them get all the bugs worked out before I bother. If they want to release unfinished products so they can meet deadlines, that is up to them, but I won't be one of those throwing money at them to do it.

You can resign during the season. Guys on last year of contract (like real life)

I'm playing as Vikings and at three different points during the season the CFM homepage had a section to resign certain players (Harrison Smith and Blanton)

I resigned them to realistic deals. I just think you can't Willy nilly resign whoever. They may have to be happy in scheme and approach the team about extension

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[prey2god]

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I'm at work right now and this is wonderful news, but just wondering if they fixed the stats issue when you start your CFM, the stats show on each player, but doesn't show the teams they played for.

[roolz]

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Still a few fixes away from having a solid CFM mode then?

I mean yes its playable etc, but there still needs to be a couple of tweaks?

Its the only mode I touch, so if there are glaring problems that will ruin it and the immersion, then I will hold off for now.

Im desperate to get it though, been hovering over the purchase button all day

[extremeskins04]

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So I haven't bought the game yet, but I may still wait until these rosters come Friday. If that doesn't fix the issue, i'll wait for 2nd patch I guess.

[charter04]

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Are the incoming CBs comparable at least?

It would help if they allowed a All players by position sort like you could do in NCAA. Lol.


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[Brightline]

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Lets be honest. Ea gets partial credit. They shipped a game with what really were inexcusable bugs. But they did respond quickly and fix some of it.

[althor]

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Lets be honest. Ea gets partial credit. They shipped a game with what really were inexcusable bugs. But they did respond quickly and fix some of it.

Yes it was fast, almost like they knew there were issues during testing but had to beat the deadline so were already working on the patch when the game hit the shelves? Partial credit.

[lopey986]

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Lets be honest. Ea gets partial credit. They shipped a game with what really were inexcusable bugs. But they did respond quickly and fix some of it.

That is pretty much the norm these days, not just for EA, but for almost every "yearly" release title like sports games. That is the downside to having a concrete deadline to meet every year so you can release the game in time for the start of the actual sports season.

[nomarhits400]

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I would disagree wholeheartedly with you on your #2 point. While before the veterans combine I would have agreed, watching the veterans combine proved some interesting insight to shelf life of regressing talent in the speed department. IE...Felix jones...ran a 4.3 low 40 in the draft. Ran a 4.7 or something this combine. That's significant in regression. AND...he trained for that event so I would clip another MS off that.

Agreed. He is saying that if Randy Moss came into the league and ran a 4.3 at the age of the 23, that he would still run a 4.35 at 33....and you have the data to back it up? No you don't- and even if you think you did the sample size of 10 year veterans would be too small to be statistically significant in any case.....And if not 40 times- what objective data would you rather they use to normalize speed ratings across the league?

Further- I absolutely believe their is a bias per position- and those bias's should be baked into the regression. Why would I use a regression model that included OL for a wideout or RB? I could care two craps less If Michael Oher's 40 time has only dropped from 5.1 to 5.15 in ten years. What's that got to do with a wideout running 500 pass patterns a year, cutting 1500 times and being hit another 250 in the process? Not to mention the pounding a RB takes. Show me objective 40 time regression data over ten years for RB's and WR's and I can guarantee you their 40 times drop way more than 0.05 seconds. It's preposterous to insinuate otherwise.

[jeremym480]

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I didnt change any schemes so everything is default.

I just ran the test again but change both to Clutch with High Motors.

Robinson 16 games 26 sacks. Matthews 16 games 15 sacks

Ratings after 1 season

Robinson - 86 PBK 96 AWR
Matthews - 87 PBK 92 AWR

I'll have to do more tests tonight.

Are only LT's regressing? If that's the case I wonder if simply changing them to RT (even if they're playing LT) would make a difference?

[Falconfreak]

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Does this patch fix the defense camera angle issue?

[IcedCoffee1983]

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Could someone clarify this:

"Addressed issue where some free agents would disappear from the free agent pool"

Does that mean they they expanded the amount of players that the Free Agent Pool can hold? I always hated it when low rated young players that I followed in college (for example Vinnie Sunseri last year) got deleted because of the FA limitations. If they're still there now and don't disappear forever, then that's a fantastic addition.

Oh my gosh, I didn't notice that in the patch notes at first. That will be awesome. I believe the issue was that once you go from pre-season to regular season a bunch of FA's would disappear since the total player pool was capped at 400, hopefully they increased it? Even if they bumped it to 800 that would help greatly with guys disappearing from the FA pool. Here is the original thread about it:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ear-again.html

@icecoffee why not ask amazon? what does that have to do with us checkin over the game..

My bad, that was off topic, I deleted my post.

[Hooe]

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Did another 20-year league simulation post-patch. The league WR population in 2035 season post-patch:

     SPD   ACC
μ   91.1  86.2
σ    4.4   5.8
Q1  86.7  80.4
Q3  95.4  92.0

SPD Population

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ACC Population

98
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81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80
79 79

Link to my original SPD / ACC 2035 population survey here.

My impression: there's not enough difference in the statistics between my one simulation pre-patch and post-patch for me to say there's any difference in how WR SPD / ACC ratings are handled. The distribution still looks far more linear than the main roster and has a noticeably wider spread than the main roster.

I will say this, however - though I didn't record them, just by eye-balling it I can tell you that the QB DAC ratings are much lower than they were and much more in-line with the base roster.

[BlackBetty15]

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You cite one example - a guy who ran a 4.44 in 2008. NFLDS scouts had him at a 4.68 at the veterans combine in 2015. Throw in 8 years of separation at a position that sees the highest rate of regression. As I said in my statement, the AVERAGE for ALL PLAYERS (not just RBs with lengthy injury histories) is about a loss of 0.005 seconds for every season played.

How hard did he train? Where did he train? Was he down here at MJP or at another speed-oriented training facility? Was he overweight? Remember, when he ran in 2008, he was 207lbs. He is listed at 215 now on NFL.com. Is he even more now?

All we know for sure is that he was "training at home in Texas" prior to the event. We don't know where or with whom. Forgive me, but Jones never really seemed like a try-hard, effort-oriented kind of guy anyway, so I would not be surprised if he had a lackluster showing due to complacency. Remember, he failed the Cowboy conditioning test in 2012. If I was a betting man, I would be willing to bet that his lengthy injury history (both knees, ribs, foot, legs, and shoulders) combined with a sub-standard training regimen, and lack of effort, all likely contributed to that disappointing 40 time.

That being said, Jones is more of the exception than the rule here, and I have data to back that up. The falloff of these players over time is more correlated to injury history than to the number of years played.

For me...this will be my first year using your system so i am curious to see what your scaling it too vs progression/regression. I definitely appreciate and absolutely love the time and dedication you put into the scouting and scaling so from what I read...I cant. I should invite you to my pay to play FFL and see if you can REALLY measure up but seriously...regression/progression in madden has always been a touchy deal that is not only hard to get what WE call right, but consistent. I did like the nfl2k system where...as you mentioned with Felix...weight was gained and therefore speed got a little slower. Although flawed in its own right...it was the best system that I personally liked. The problem I already see is...I will get to enjoy your roster 2 maybe 3 years tops in CFM before madden roster effects take over and thats best case. SO..with that said...unless somehow that system changes...which we know this year it wont...I think we are stuck. I dont know...been around these boards for a better part of over a decade...seems like we have been playing this same song and dance to where I feel my year isnt complete unless Madden sticks it to me in some form or fashion. So this year I am just playing and mentally telling myself "yup, this is how the real league is...good job sexy rexy...this was the year"