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  • Allball76
    Rookie
    • Jun 2015
    • 512

    #751
    Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

    Originally posted by booker21
    To be honest i don´t think they will acknowledge this at all.

    1.-QB accuracy is caused by inflated ratings by the confidence i don´t think it a problem because of the patch. The patch should have solved the ratings going over 99 (in theory at least the UI says they are not, which i doubt it). So i don´t think they will work on this.

    2.-Not sure about this one.

    3.-Confidence is so complex that even turn it off may be more complicated that we think. Maybe it´s already too inside the code to fix it on a patch or giving us the option to disable.

    I don´t want to be a pessimist here but i seriously think they are not going to work much on these 3 issues.

    To me is a Killer that is why i´m brainstorming with people who are experiencing this as well how are you going to play? Personally i´m going to try

    1.- delete turner and see, i don´t have high hopes since the Confidences is what is causing QB being Robo including User QB.

    2.-try setting QB acc and RB at 0, the two most evident areas of gameplay i notices when the confidence kick it. But again, this will be very different is for some reason my start qb get injuried and my confidence 40 player have to play.

    No path is ideal so far
    Im just stuck on stupid right now !

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    • booker21
      MVP
      • Jun 2003
      • 4928

      #752
      Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

      Originally posted by howboutdat
      Yup , if they stick us with this stuff again this year like they did last year with confidence and regression, im done for good with them. No sense in adding more when what you had before was never even fixed.
      Actually i remember a interview were Rex or someone was saying that last year the confidence was not working very good since it was really hard to rise it. So they "tweaked" to make it more balance. the thing is as we know, now is extremely easy to get and we know the rest of the story.
      English, is not my first language.

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      • SolidSquid
        MVP
        • Aug 2014
        • 3159

        #753
        Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

        Originally posted by CM Hooe
        At this point, it'd be nice to have some flexibility to enable and disable some of these things, I agree.

        I do think that Dynamic Drive Goals from an XP perspective makes plenty of sense as well. That said, I don't agree with how the game defines "dynamic", or what "goals" it sets for my players. Particularly on defense, the goals strike me as incredibly random, and across-the-board I think the goals ought to react to how I'm playing (and thereby actually being "dynamic"), not encourage that I play a certain way which may not jive with sound football strategy.

        On the whole I think Dynamic Drive Goals is a concept that needed a bit more time in the game design oven - particularly to address the concerns of the sim-oriented and/or single-player crowds - before it was introduced into the game.
        The goals on defense are terrible. Get an interception or force a fumble should be combined into get a takeaway. Then they have don't give up a redzone TD, so you can get beat on an 80 yard bomb and still get a confidence boost. I wish the goals were more thought out in respect to actual football tactics.

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        • howboutdat
          MVP
          • Nov 2012
          • 1908

          #754
          Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

          Also, seems like this is something ive not seen here either, maybe someone can answer.

          1- Is these confidence making players play like they have 100 attribute ratings but not showing it , anyone seeing this on 7 or 8 minute quarters? Or is this being seen on 15 minute quarters? Maybe its partly due to length of games?

          2-The LT regression issue: is this only happening in sim games due to sim stats? who has tested this in a human vs human league? Curious as there are alot of people who dont bother to play offline and only play in online leagues. Would be great to get a perspective as how this will effect those people.
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          • DeuceDouglas
            Madden Dev Team
            • Apr 2010
            • 4297

            #755
            Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

            Originally posted by CM Hooe
            On the whole I think Dynamic Drive Goals is a concept that needed a bit more time in the game design oven - particularly to address the concerns of the sim-oriented and/or single-player crowds - before it was introduced into the game.
            And that's been the story of CFM from the jump with pretty much everything. I remember the "If Gameplay is great could you overlook what CFM lacks" thread and my answer was no then and it still is. Gameplay is absolutely fantastic. I've never had so much fun playing meaningless games in Madden. Ever. But that does only last so long. CFM is just a complete mess and has been a completely mess that just keeps getting worse.

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            • booker21
              MVP
              • Jun 2003
              • 4928

              #756
              Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

              Originally posted by howboutdat
              Also, seems like this is something ive not seen here either, maybe someone can answer.

              1- Is these confidence making players play like they have 100 attribute ratings but not showing it , anyone seeing this on 7 or 8 minute quarters? Or is this being seen on 15 minute quarters? Maybe its partly due to length of games?

              2-The LT regression issue: is this only happening in sim games due to sim stats? who has tested this in a human vs human league? Curious as there are alot of people who dont bother to play offline and only play in online leagues. Would be great to get a perspective as how this will effect those people.
              1.-This is only my personal opinion and i don´t have any prove but to me that is exactly what is going on. On my game Tannenhill was playing like when he was 102+ Deep Acc rating. Even the UI said it was 64. I have played with other qb with 64 DTA and they overthrow deep passes often. This time he didn´t OT a single pass, at that point i just started to tested so i went deep on every down, not one single ot. smh

              2.-I´m so sad and worried about how the whole game experience is impacted by the confidence thing that i don´t even bothered to much on the LT progressin. so i can´t answer that one.
              Last edited by booker21; 09-10-2015, 03:25 PM.
              English, is not my first language.

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              • dubplate
                MVP
                • Dec 2002
                • 3778

                #757
                Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                That's what I mean though, I think it really is there. But it becomes so convoluted by all the ratings changes and everything else that just doesn't work properly. I don't think CFM was ready for more stuff like this to be added. It didn't even work well last year and yet they piled more onto it. If you took away everything Confidence and Goals wise that start changing things so radically, I think CFM would resemble Play Now almost identically which might be wishful thinking but CFM's extras and basics haven't ever seemed to work correctly and I feel like this isn't any different than that.
                Seriously. If I wanted to play an RPG I have a plethora of options. I purchased a football game and that is just what I want, none of this other nonsense that ruins the game.

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                • Hooe
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 21554

                  #758
                  Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                  Originally posted by howboutdat
                  The LT regression issue: is this only happening in sim games due to sim stats? who has tested this in a human vs human league? Curious as there are alot of people who dont bother to play offline and only play in online leagues. Would be great to get a perspective as how this will effect those people.
                  This issue is very obviously driven by the Game Prep feature assessing ratings penalties in response to CPU players giving up lots of sacks, whether they are played, simmed, or whatever.

                  If your OTs don't routinely give up four sacks a game in games you play, you will not see this issue happen to your team's OTs.

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                  • JRillah10
                    Just started!
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 4

                    #759
                    Just adding to the greatness of this game. I started an offline CFM and selected the Colts. I did the recommended idea and skipped the pre-season. Prior to the start of the 1st regular season game, I go in to update the depth chart. I noticed, 2015 1st Round Pick Phillip Dorsett is not there. I just assumed is was injured. I go to the injury list and he is not there. WTH. I go back to the transactions and the CPU released him. What a joke. They kept Whalen instead. What a nightmare this game has become over the years. I checked a few other teams and there are multiple 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round draft picks from the 2015 class that were released. My goodness, EA sucks is all aspects.

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                    • bkrich83
                      Has Been
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71572

                      #760
                      Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                      Clint said on Twitter today that CFM is certainly playable. I have to disagree with him. At least for me it's not.


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                      • bkrich83
                        Has Been
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71572

                        #761
                        Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                        Originally posted by JRillah10
                        Just adding to the greatness of this game. I started an offline CFM and selected the Colts. I did the recommended idea and skipped the pre-season. Prior to the start of the 1st regular season game, I go in to update the depth chart. I noticed, 2015 1st Round Pick Phillip Dorsett is not there. I just assumed is was injured. I go to the injury list and he is not there. WTH. I go back to the transactions and the CPU released him. What a joke. They kept Whalen instead. What a nightmare this game has become over the years. I checked a few other teams and there are multiple 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round draft picks from the 2015 class that were released. My goodness, EA sucks is all aspects.

                        Let's keep the hyperbole and vitriol to a minimum it's not helpful.


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                        • T5063
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 802

                          #762
                          Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                          Originally posted by JRillah10
                          Just adding to the greatness of this game. I started an offline CFM and selected the Colts. I did the recommended idea and skipped the pre-season. Prior to the start of the 1st regular season game, I go in to update the depth chart. I noticed, 2015 1st Round Pick Phillip Dorsett is not there. I just assumed is was injured. I go to the injury list and he is not there. WTH. I go back to the transactions and the CPU released him. What a joke. They kept Whalen instead. What a nightmare this game has become over the years. I checked a few other teams and there are multiple 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round draft picks from the 2015 class that were released. My goodness, EA sucks is all aspects.
                          This is another thing I don't understand. When they said you can start your CFM from the regular season I thought they ment that the first preseason was totally scrapped and you can jump right in with opening day rosters. But no, its just set up so that it gets automatically simmed up to the regular season with the CPU still making cuts. So that saves me what? a few button presses? whats the point?

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                          • booker21
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 4928

                            #763
                            Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                            Originally posted by bkrich83
                            Clint said on Twitter today that CFM is certainly playable. I have to disagree with him. At least for me it's not.


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                            i told you before. they are not going to acknowledge any of this issues.
                            I´m still surprise no one from EA asked themselves hey, the user will be all 99 in confidence in a few weeks smh
                            English, is not my first language.

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                            • Allball76
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 512

                              #764
                              Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                              Originally posted by bkrich83
                              Let's keep the hyperbole and vitriol to a minimum it's not helpful.


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                              Ok who has twitter ? can someone with video or picture send this info to Rex Dickson i don't have it but im reading it. And he is active on there as of a few minute ago !

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                              • Danimal
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 2198

                                #765
                                Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                                This is what I will say about the confidence system. In my CFM I am 7 games in as the Bears. I'm 6-1 and Jay Cutler's completion percentage is 73%, he has thrown for about 2,000 yards. He started with a 55 CFD and he is a 99 CFD and was in the 90's CFD after 4 games.

                                In case anyone thinks all I do is pass Matt Forte leads the league in rushing attempts and yards at just shy of 1000 yards again 7 games in. Mcclein leads the league in sacks. Both guys 99 CFD.

                                In Play Now I have gone entire quarters with Cutler and the offense not getting a first down.

                                I hit drive goals about 80% of the time and I don't even pay attention to them. I hit drive goals when the other team scores sometimes for some unknown reason.

                                Confidence shouldn't carry over from game to game IMO. It never goes down as far as I can tell and if you do even remotely well by 4 games in your team is like the 85 Bears.

                                IMO it really is the root of the problems people see and why it varies from user to user. I highly doubt it is fixable this year and I don't know what a solution would entail.

                                It's highly disappointing because of how well the game plays.
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