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  • lasto
    Rookie
    • Feb 2014
    • 139

    #91
    Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

    Has anyone intentionally drafted a player with a red diamond? I scouted a 6'4" WR with 4.32 speed with a "B" in all the major catching categories, but his true talent is that of a 3rd rounder (currently projected 1st). What has your experience been with these "busts"?

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    • Datninja619
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      • Jul 2012
      • 1918

      #92
      Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

      Originally posted by cbraddy629
      Has anyone else drafted corners who only has around 38-43 tackle?
      Originally posted by scoobyskyline3
      Yep,the one i moved to safety has like 39 tackling... im forced to user him
      I drafted a 97 speed, maybe 95 ACC corner and yeah he has 30-40 tackling too. I feel like he's so fragile back, but his speed really makes up for user mistakes!

      Originally posted by lasto
      Has anyone intentionally drafted a player with a red diamond? I scouted a 6'4" WR with 4.32 speed with a "B" in all the major catching categories, but his true talent is that of a 3rd rounder (currently projected 1st). What has your experience been with these "busts"?

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      Kind of similar to you, I sometimes take that 1st round projected player that I didn't scout that's still available in the 4th. I quickly realize why the other 31 teams didn't pick him lol

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      • lasto
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        • Feb 2014
        • 139

        #93
        Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

        Originally posted by Datninja619
        I drafted a 97 speed, maybe 95 ACC corner and yeah he has 30-40 tackling too. I feel like he's so fragile back, but his speed really makes up for user mistakes!



        Kind of similar to you, I sometimes take that 1st round projected player that I didn't scout that's still available in the 4th. I quickly realize why the other 31 teams didn't pick him lol
        No I am asking, what was wrong with him when you drafted him? This guy seems great, but the diamond tells me he is a bust, what was your guy lacking? Just low awareness?

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        • Datninja619
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          • Jul 2012
          • 1918

          #94
          Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

          Originally posted by lasto
          No I am asking, what was wrong with him when you drafted him? This guy seems great, but the diamond tells me he is a bust, what was your guy lacking? Just low awareness?

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          Were his other combine stats low?

          The red diamond just says what his true round would be. A 3rd round diamond isn't bad, considering his size, speed and at least 3 B ratings. He may just have an extremely low Route run if that isn't a B.

          In my case, the prospect was a bust all across the board of his attributes. Mainly lacked in keep stats for the position, which made me cut him.

          IMO, your prospect is worth the pick. Especially if you need WRS. If anything your focusing on raising one attribute (maybe awareness) as opposed to 3.

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          • scoobyskyline3
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            • Jan 2011
            • 377

            #95
            Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

            Originally posted by Datninja619
            I drafted a 97 speed, maybe 95 ACC corner and yeah he has 30-40 tackling too. I feel like he's so fragile back, but his speed really makes up for user mistakes!
            Ive been working on Mathieu's tackling so he can be a Bob Sanders type strong safety and if i work on the 97 speed guy's awareness then i should be fine

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            • scoobyskyline3
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              • Jan 2011
              • 377

              #96
              Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

              So i have decided since my first two games are against human opponents im not going to start that CB i turned into a FS bc his awareness is too low.

              However, the WR turned RB "Bradley Dean" i have now gotten his carrying up to 76 from 68 before the start of the year so i think he will be fine. I am wondering if i should build up his juke/spin next or something physical since hes only 21 years old

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              • lasto
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                • Feb 2014
                • 139

                #97
                Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                Originally posted by scoobyskyline3
                So i have decided since my first two games are against human opponents im not going to start that CB i turned into a FS bc his awareness is too low.

                However, the WR turned RB "Bradley Dean" i have now gotten his carrying up to 76 from 68 before the start of the year so i think he will be fine. I am wondering if i should build up his juke/spin next or something physical since hes only 21 years old
                I would say that depends on what his current attributes are. I personally like to focus on making one or two things elite, because I have found that Jack of all trades are less effective. For example I would rather have a guy with 99 juke 85 spin and 40 stuff arm then 87s in everything.

                Some of this will be dependant on how expensive it is too, but the higher you can get elusiveness, the better. It seems to help with everything.

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                • StevenSD
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                  • Sep 2013
                  • 1764

                  #98
                  Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                  For those who like to switch positions of their rookies when they are drafted, what are some of the attributes to look for if you're thinking of doing this? Specifically if it's a WR to HB and a CB to S.

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                  • lasto
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 139

                    #99
                    Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                    Originally posted by StevenSD
                    For those who like to switch positions of their rookies when they are drafted, what are some of the attributes to look for if you're thinking of doing this? Specifically if it's a WR to HB and a CB to S.
                    This is somewhat dependant on what you are looking to get out of a player. The primary reason I change a player's posting to gain an ability at a position that the game does not produce on its own. For example, the draft never produces RBs with greater than 91 or 92 speed so if you want a fast RB you need to convert them.

                    From a draft perspective I look for speed, 4.32 (96 speed) or faster. If possible I like them to be top 5 in the 3 cone and 20 yard shuttle. From there you have to get a bit lucky on their RB attributes. But it seems that every year there are several guys who must have played PR/KR in college, because they will have very high BCV and either juke or spin. In my case, I waited until after the draft and was able to trade cheaply from my guy because he wasn't rated that highly as a WR.

                    For CB I look for speed and strength. I have yet to see a corner with high hit power and speed so I prefer to move them to FS over SS and use them as a coverage safety because they can make up so much ground.

                    For other positions such as olb to SS and MLB to olb I look for speed, zone coverage and hit power.

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                    • scoobyskyline3
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                      • Jan 2011
                      • 377

                      #100
                      Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                      My WR turned HB Branden Dean got 200yrds (120 in a sim because the opponent greifed and got kicked) and 117 in the first two games, both vs users but he did fumble against the superbowl champs. However i am 2-0.

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                      • scoobyskyline3
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 377

                        #101
                        Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                        So now Brenden Dean has 764 rushing yards through 5 games and leads the league in rushing. In addition,he hasnt fumbled since week 2 against a hitstick/strip user and i got his carrying up from 68 --> 87

                        Lasto this move has really paid off. He has no trucking at all but im thinkinog funneling all of my xp into strength after i get his carrying around 92 --> 95 since his strength is 53

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                        • Godgers12
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                          • Dec 2012
                          • 2265

                          #102
                          Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                          Has anyone drafted a safety above 82 or 83 speed yet? Lol. Fastest LB is always faster than the fastest safety.
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                          • LionsFan01
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                            • Sep 2006
                            • 244

                            #103
                            Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                            Originally posted by Godgers12
                            Has anyone drafted a safety above 82 or 83 speed yet? Lol. Fastest LB is always faster than the fastest safety.
                            Quite a few. I've got two drafted FS's with 88 SPD and a SS with 90 SPD. All 3 also have the Superstar development trait. And none were drafted before the 3rd round. And I've drafted more than just those 3 with high SPD but I kept them because of the development trait. They're definitely out there.

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                            • Amoo316
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                              • Mar 2010
                              • 3609

                              #104
                              Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                              Originally posted by StevenSD
                              For those who like to switch positions of their rookies when they are drafted, what are some of the attributes to look for if you're thinking of doing this? Specifically if it's a WR to HB and a CB to S.
                              Really depends on how you play defense and what your schemes are. I personally play an attacking 4-3 with a lot of cover 2 man.

                              So for me, I want fast corners with great man skills and decent bump. Since my saftey spend a lot of time in zone, if I'm looking to draft a corner for saftey I look for a guy with great speed and zone skills, even if his man skills are only like c or c-. Because his mcv skills are so low he's probably going to end up getting a low round grade. If it's a strong saftey, I will put a little value into the strength ranking to see if he will be able to support the run, or be better as a FS.

                              Last class draft I had a need at cb and fs, the cb slash was silly deep. The two guys I pulled out of the second and third round looked like this

                              2nd round - 91 SPD, 93 ACC, 87 MCV, 81 ZCV, 79 OVR

                              3rd round - 95 SPD, 93 ACC, 79 MCV, 85 ZCV, 73 OVR, moved to FS 79 OVR.


                              It's worth mentioning, players that fit your scheme, will be rated higher then if they dont. My offense is balanced run, if I draft a small spread scheme speed wr, he loses quite a bit of OVR from the draft screen OVR to once he's signed and on my roster. Scheme matters a lot.

                              So a 3-4 college olb is a potential to move to 4-3 defensive end. A 4-3 college olb cant, but might be able to play mlb. So understanding your scheme, understanding the player's preferred scheme, and knowing what you want out of a certain position matters a lot.

                              There is no 1 formula fits all, but if you understand the concepts and ideals for what you want, you can find gems in low rated players.
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                              • nwo504
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                                • Mar 2006
                                • 15

                                #105
                                Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                                my qb has 95 BCV and 106 personality rating

                                does anyone else have any ratings over 100?
                                Last edited by nwo504; 11-02-2015, 11:27 AM.

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