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  • Reed1417
    MVP
    • May 2012
    • 6120

    #31
    Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

    I enjoy me some football. I watch it when it's on and i'm a big Ravens fan. Plus i've been playing Madden since 92. However I have never played football competitively at any point in my life. Was too small so I stuck to baseball haha! I'm worried that with all the things being added and this football terminology being thrown around that I'll be lost know what I mean? Rex, could you tell me if these new concepts will be in the skills trainer this year? Thank you!

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    • Brightline
      Banned
      • Jul 2013
      • 382

      #32
      Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

      Obviously cannot judge until seeing/playing. But the most important take away, AGAIN, is that the game's vision and direction and goals largely align what we want, simulation football.

      This wasnt really that long ago

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      • brandon27
        MVP
        • Aug 2008
        • 1978

        #33
        Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

        Rex and his team are killing it. Absolutely killing it this year.

        Real football intelligence and strategy making it's way into the game. This is going to be a game changer for sure.

        Got to say, from the running game improvements offense/defense, now these zone changes, special teams changes as well as all of the other things that have been mentioned so far, on paper, this sounds pretty damn incredible.

        All I'm waiting for now is:
        - CFM changes
        - Word on whether Miami's stadium will reflect the renovations/roof being put on it.

        Always been excited for Madden, but they way this is sounding exceeds all of that.
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        • Datninja619
          MVP
          • Jul 2012
          • 1918

          #34
          Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

          As a defensive guy, I'm extremely excited for this years madden. Seeing the use of receiver count brought tears to my eyes.

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          • 2_headedmonster
            MVP
            • Oct 2011
            • 2251

            #35
            Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

            ive been doing a lot of bootlegging on defense in Madden for years to get the coverage that i wanted, and the fact that authentic strategy is going to be expanded rather than some gimmick is breathe of fresh air.

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            • sebennayx
              Rookie
              • Apr 2010
              • 167

              #36
              Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

              This is seriously awesome, it went well beyond what was expected when pattern matching and new zones were initially announced.

              Hopefully this will start a trend of people bragging about a 33% 3rd down conversion allowed percentage and limiting the number of successful drives, less bragging about qbs (unrealistically) putting up 5000 yd 50 td seasons.

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              • OhMrHanky
                MVP
                • Aug 2012
                • 1898

                #37
                Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

                Originally posted by Reed1417
                I enjoy me some football. I watch it when it's on and i'm a big Ravens fan. Plus i've been playing Madden since 92. However I have never played football competitively at any point in my life. Was too small so I stuck to baseball haha! I'm worried that with all the things being added and this football terminology being thrown around that I'll be lost know what I mean? Rex, could you tell me if these new concepts will be in the skills trainer this year? Thank you!

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                EA or Rex himself will certainly have to confirm this, but if last year was the example, I HAVE to believe they will put tutorials for all of these new concepts. Which, I actually love. I grew up playing football in the street, never played college or even HS, but I've always just loved the game so much that I tend to know a lot about strategy (or thought I did. Lol), but all of these new concepts added to the game or slightly different (or more in depth, maybe) concepts will take me a min to adjust to. And, I love a quick tutorial explaining the what/when/why, and then a play or 2 showing it in action so u see how it works. I'm a tutorial geek/freak, actually. Lol. I want the game to show me the what/when/where/why at least once so I'm not guessing all the time. Sometimes, CPU logic can be slightly diff from HUM logic, so all of these things help. And, I love learning as much football strategy as I can. This can help when watching football as well, so I always do all the tutorials to see what's up or new in the game.


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                • KingV2k3
                  Senior Circuit
                  • May 2003
                  • 5881

                  #38
                  Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

                  Originally posted by RexDEAFootball
                  I like cover 2 hard flat against the flat and drag routes. Cover 3 Match also does a great job of taking away over the middle crossing routes.
                  Will the CPU adapt to your tendencies and strengths / weaknesses when choosing how it defends the pass against the HUM player?


                  Thanks!

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                  • bucky60
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 3288

                    #39
                    Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

                    Originally posted by RexDEAFootball
                    I like cover 2 hard flat against the flat and drag routes. Cover 3 Match also does a great job of taking away over the middle crossing routes.
                    Rex, I am very impressed with the (realism) direction of your Game-Play team the past two years.

                    Been extremely disappointed in the arcade CFM/Franchise. I really wish the CFM/Franchise team were heading in the same direction as your Game-Play team (towards realism and not arcade).

                    Man, I've been disappointed in Madden for so long, but am now building up a lot of faith in your Game-Play team.

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                    • Senator Palmer
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3314

                      #40
                      Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

                      Originally posted by RexDEAFootball
                      We have what you are looking for. There is a cover 3 mable and a cover 3 hard flat. But the real beast is cover 3 match.


                      Run fits. Now Buzz Mable? Rex, they should name elementary schools in your honor.

                      Originally posted by kbomb1upc
                      Hey Rex, do we have any coverages that work best against a 3x1? Do coverages change responsibility depending if the offense is in and even set (2x2) or an odd set (3x1)? For example in college we played a Cover 7 against 3x1 sets. But we would audible to a straight Cover 5 (it's a cover 2 with soft squat corners) if the team was in an even set.
                      That buzz mable is a popular call vs. 3x1 sets.
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                      • The JareBear
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                        • Jul 2010
                        • 11560

                        #41
                        Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

                        Originally posted by jfsolo
                        People who don't follow the development of Madden at all and just buy the game at launch and head right to play online are going to be in a state of abject shock.
                        Most definitely. I remember when NCAA 12 launched it had the best zone coverage I've seen in a game and people really struggled.
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                        • Nemesis Enforcer
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 148

                          #42
                          Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

                          After 25 years we can finally stop 4 verts and TE corners.

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                          • RogueHominid
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 10900

                            #43
                            Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

                            This was a very nice read.

                            I'm with Senator Palmer in that I've wanted to move to a Quinn 1/3 base scheme since Norton Jr. joined the Raiders from Seattle, but it didn't seem quite viable in M16. Now I think it will be, which is great.

                            I'm also happy for the folks like NYKia, who have been bootlegging the Tampa 2 for a long time. It looks like those folks will be able to actually use this as a base defense now, online and off.

                            I'm not normally the type to feel good about things that aren't here this year but might be there next year, but these improvements have me thinking that a similar attempt at enhancing our ability to run realistic man schemes, with multiple techniques and assignments might be coming sooner rather than later. It would seem a natural extension of the foundation that's been laid this year w/r/t run fits and zone coverages.

                            I'm excited to have to study my playbook and learn more about real NFL strategy to succeed in M17.

                            I'm sure the online casuals will go apoplectic at not having their favorite instant reads always open anymore.

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                            • dsk1317
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 204

                              #44
                              Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

                              ype Score: 9
                              2 trap, rip/liz cover 3, 3 mable for trips, finally getting the curl-flat drop correct in quarters(he is responsible for #2 shallow), having a seam-flat for 3 deep/3 under FZ blitzes, vertical hook zones(they match #2 vertical, and cut #1 on in-breaking routes), and stock blitzes finally working, all makes me very happy. That being said, I still want to see quarters coverage, and see if the cb's and safeties match the vertical stem of #1, #2. & #3 at 10-12 yards, and see if it plays 3×1 sets properly, before I can make a call on it. *For those that may not know, quarters coverage is cover 4.*

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                              • TarHeelPhenom
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 7107

                                #45
                                Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Improvements on Zone Coverage

                                My sincere hope is that after about a month of the casual gamer complaining about the game being too hard, that the devs wont create a patch that ruins it. If its sim keep it sim and make the others conform.
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