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  • T4VERTS
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    • Jan 2011
    • 1153

    #1

    Madden NFL 17 Podcast: Process of Building Ratings, OVR Formula & More: Part 2 of 2

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    MBL Network has posted their Madden NFL 17 4 Verts Podcast with Madden NFL 17 developer, Dustin Smith.

    Part 2 of our interview with Madden developer Dustin Smith. We talk about the process for building ratings for rookie as well as decreasing the ratings as stars age. We get into a discussion about the new OVR formula and it's potential effect on the game.

    If you missed the first podcast on Everything You Need to Know About Equipment, click here.
    Last edited by Steve_OS; 07-06-2016, 08:21 PM.
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  • underdog13
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    • Apr 2012
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    #2
    Re: Madden 17 Developer Interview Series

    Love that below average starters will be in the low 70s or high 60s.

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    • T4VERTS
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      • Jan 2011
      • 1153

      #3
      Re: Madden 17 Developer Interview Series

      Originally posted by underdog13
      Love that below average starters will be in the low 70s or high 60s.

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      Yes, it kind of fits in with the thread about ratings spreading out more.
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      • jfsolo
        Live Action, please?
        • May 2003
        • 12965

        #4
        Re: Madden 17 developer interview series

        This ratings piece was a nice coup interview wise. This information hasn't really been discussed anywhere else. It's like they're letting the ratings be puffed up in MUT, or DC, while tuning the "real" ratings for CFM now.

        It seems like we're all going to have make a mental adjustment to thinking of mid 70's players as solid starts, as opposed to those guys being our back ups. Also, not thinking of rookies that come in as 65's as being busts.

        This is like a pretty big change that they're keeping on the DL.

        Ideologically I agree with Kane's thinking on creating and adjusting ratings, people on the opposite ends of the spectrum, the ones who are too enamored with big plays, as well as those who are hard core into analytics, may hate how he approaches things, but I'm down with his methodology.
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        • T4VERTS
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          • Jan 2011
          • 1153

          #5
          Re: Madden 17 developer interview series

          Originally posted by jfsolo
          This ratings piece was a nice coup interview wise. This information hasn't really been discussed anywhere else. It's like they're letting the ratings be puffed up in MUT, or DC, while tuning the "real" ratings for CFM now.

          It seems like we're all going to have make a mental adjustment to thinking of mid 70's players as solid starts, as opposed to those guys being our back ups. Also, not thinking of rookies that come in as 65's as being busts.

          This is like a pretty big change that they're keeping on the DL.

          Ideologically I agree with Kane's thinking on creating and adjusting ratings, people on the opposite ends of the spectrum, the ones who are too enamored with big plays, as well as those who are hard core into analytics, may hate how he approaches things, but I'm down with his methodology.
          Yea it was interesting when we got talking. I had heard some rumors out of EA Play that they were redoing overalls, but when he started discussing it a bit I was intrigued.
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          • Allball76
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            • Jun 2015
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            #6
            Re: Madden 17 Developer Interview Series

            Originally posted by underdog13
            Love that below average starters will be in the low 70s or high 60s.

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            Now this is going in the right direction

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            • Allball76
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              • Jun 2015
              • 512

              #7
              Re: Madden 17 developer interview series

              Originally posted by jfsolo
              This ratings piece was a nice coup interview wise. This information hasn't really been discussed anywhere else. It's like they're letting the ratings be puffed up in MUT, or DC, while tuning the "real" ratings for CFM now.

              It seems like we're all going to have make a mental adjustment to thinking of mid 70's players as solid starts, as opposed to those guys being our back ups. Also, not thinking of rookies that come in as 65's as being busts.

              This is like a pretty big change that they're keeping on the DL.

              Ideologically I agree with Kane's thinking on creating and adjusting ratings, people on the opposite ends of the spectrum, the ones who are too enamored with big plays, as well as those who are hard core into analytics, may hate how he approaches things, but I'm down with his methodology.

              It's one of them things that will improve gameplay , but I think they know the casuals will react diffrent and not be open minded .So keep it on the DL and wait till it drops let ppl try it out first .
              Last edited by Allball76; 07-06-2016, 05:19 PM.

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              • jfsolo
                Live Action, please?
                • May 2003
                • 12965

                #8
                Re: Madden 17 developer interview series

                Originally posted by Allball76
                It's one of them things that will improve gameplay , but I think they know the casuals will react diffrent and not be open minded .So keep it on the DL and wait till it drops let ppl try it out firsts .
                Yep, I feel like this was a very shrewdly calculated move, and one that should work out, because the mindset of most CFM players is different than that of the folks who primarily play those other modes, IMO.
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                Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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                • briz1046
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                  • May 2013
                  • 1017

                  #9
                  Re: Madden 17 developer interview series

                  Originally posted by jfsolo
                  Yep, I feel like this was a very shrewdly calculated move, and one that should work out, because the mindset of most CFM players is different than that of the folks who primarily play those other modes, IMO.


                  Don't really see any need to suggest any kind of * conspiracy theory * to account for the timing of the release of the ratings as it's been pretty much the same for years that ratings are the last things to be discussed
                  Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon .... No matter how good you are , the bird is going to **** on the board and strut around like it won anyway .

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                  • T4VERTS
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                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1153

                    #10
                    Re: Madden 17 developer interview series

                    Originally posted by briz1046
                    Don't really see any need to suggest any kind of * conspiracy theory * to account for the timing of the release of the ratings as it's been pretty much the same for years that ratings are the last things to be discussed
                    I think he means them not being very vocal about the changes to OVR yet. They'd rather deal with it when all ratings are released rather than make it well known and deal with blow back for another month before ratings release.
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                    • briz1046
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                      • May 2013
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                      #11
                      Re: Madden 17 developer interview series

                      Originally posted by T4VERTS
                      I think he means them not being very vocal about the changes to OVR yet. They'd rather deal with it when all ratings are released rather than make it well known and deal with blow back for another month before ratings release.
                      I understand that and you may be correct however I really don't see any difference in how ratings have been discussed this year as opposed to recent history .Maybe that is your point though if they regard this as a major change ?
                      Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon .... No matter how good you are , the bird is going to **** on the board and strut around like it won anyway .

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                      • roadman
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                        • Aug 2003
                        • 26339

                        #12
                        Re: Madden 17 developer interview series

                        Originally posted by briz1046
                        I understand that and you may be correct however I really don't see any difference in how ratings have been discussed this year as opposed to recent history .Maybe that is your point though if they regard this as a major change ?
                        I think the point is that even though ratings come out towards the street date, they are keeping things low key on the OVR's more spread out than normal.

                        No real big announcements at EA Play and probably no back of the box feature.

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                        • sir psycho
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                          • Jun 2012
                          • 286

                          #13
                          Re: Madden 17 developer interview series

                          Spread out ratings?

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                          • UtahUtes32
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                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1782

                            #14
                            Re: Madden 17 Developer Interview Series

                            Originally posted by Allball76
                            Now this is going in the right direction
                            Agreed. Greater disparity is better

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                            • Allball76
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                              • Jun 2015
                              • 512

                              #15
                              Re: Madden 17 developer interview series

                              Originally posted by sir psycho
                              Spread out ratings?

                              Yes Dustin said Donny Moore was try to spread ratings and lower the speed before he left ala lower speed in Madden 16 . And that Dustin like what Donny was doing and he's gonna move Foward with it ala Madden 17 .

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