Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

[Find_the_Door]

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That means nothing in this case. He was still in an offense that prioritized deep passing so that depressed completion percentage. He was throwing to mediocre wide receivers down field with pass blocking inadequate enough to require lots of 7-man protection which further brought down his completion percentage. Your response isn't a counterargument, it's just an attempt to point out that this is what Cam Newton is supposed to be good at and thus should have a higher completion percentage. It does not dispute the fact that a deep passing offense with questionable pass blocking and mediocre wide receivers is going to lead to low completion percentages.

I don't disagree. I just find it funny that he's the one QB that they make an exception for in this regard. Let's analyze his offense since his completion percentage is so low. Wonder why others aren't afforded the same benefit of the doubt.

[Yazan Gable]

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I don't disagree. I just find it funny that he's the one QB that they make an exception for in this regard. Let's analyze his offense since his completion percentage is so low. Wonder why others aren't afforded the same benefit of the doubt.

They aren't exactly consistent if Marcus Mariota is lower rated than Jameis Winston and Philip Rivers is lower rated than Andy Dalton despite the other 10 starters on offense sitting in the injury ward.

[jmurphy31]

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Good post, good sir.

It does seem like Brady doesn't connect on his deep passes anywhere near as often as he used to. I don't watch him week in and week out tho, so I definitely am not an expert on his accuracy.

Im obviously a huge brady fan and I will agree his deep passing isn't great by any means. Part is he has nothing but slot receivers who are undersized and can't go up and get a ball. The last deep throw a wr actually went up and made a play was the tyms catch vs buffalo. Edelman and amendola are great route runners and gronk is a beast.

But dont forget that dime brady dropped to gronk on 4th and like 20 vs the broncos in the final minutes. Pretty accurate ball. But when he goes deep I hold my breath most times. He just floats it up there and it usually incomplete and sometimes picked. It's almost looks as if he just throws it deep every now and then to keep defenses honest.

[Itzr]

Cam I will give you without argument, speaking to his ability as a passer at least (he's probably the best running QB in the league). However, there is nothing Brady can individually do that Rodgers can't, and Rodgers is better throwing on while moving than Brady is while being generally far more athletic. Brady simply cannot make the game-winning play Rodgers did in the 2013 Week 17 game against Chicago, he's never had that kind of athleticism to go with his top-flight passing skills.

Before you say anything about rings or QB Wins, bear in mind that those are team achievements and not at all good indicators of individual talent.

You think Brady can do everything Rodgers can? How often do you see Brady moving out of the pocket throwing darts down field well off balance. When does Brady throw a 40 yard bomb well fading away from his pass. No doubt Brady is one of the greatest if not the greatest to ever play. However at this point in his career he is the second best quarterback, maybe even the third behind Big Ben, in the league.

[Itzr]

I can't stand Brady but he is the best QB in the league.

I disagree. You should watch the NFL Top 100 and how Rodgers puts fear into the minds of defensive players. He is more dynamic than Brady is. Brady is top 5 all time but he is not the best quarterback in the league currently. The patriots fans I know even agree Brady is great but he is not the top of the league, but he is number 2 or number 3.

[Sheba2011]

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You think Brady can do everything Rodgers can? How often do you see Brady moving out of the pocket throwing darts down field well off balance. When does Brady throw a 40 yard bomb well fading away from his pass. No doubt Brady is one of the greatest if not the greatest to ever play. However at this point in his career he is the second best quarterback, maybe even the third behind Big Ben, in the league.

The argument one way or the other means very little coming from someone from Wisconsin or New England, as we are both biased towards our guy. A Patriots fan could make that same argument you made tailoring it to Brady. Personally I would say Brady and Rodgers are tied, it is pointless to say which is better in which situation as they play under different circumstances and play the game differently. Just like Montana and Young. They are all great QB's who will be first ballot HOF'ers.

[Sheba2011]

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I disagree. You should watch the NFL Top 100 and how Rodgers puts fear into the minds of defensive players. He is more dynamic than Brady is. Brady is top 5 all time but he is not the best quarterback in the league currently. The patriots fans I know even agree Brady is great but he is not the top of the league, but he is number 2 or number 3.

If you are going to use the NFL Top 100 as a reference, you can't then go and say Rodgers is better than Brady. That contradicts your point. According to the Top 100 Cam and Brady are 1/2.

[Find_the_Door]

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Where's Romo at? Hopefully at least 89. Had an anomaly of a year with two injuries.

[Madwolf]

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If you're giving me a choice between Cam and Brady right now I'm taking Cam everytime.

[kmoser]

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Where's Romo at? Hopefully at least 89. Had an anomaly of a year with two injuries.

The thread says this is for the "Top Five Quarterbacks" [emoji6][emoji6]

Nah but I like Romo and he definitely deserves a rating in the high 80s-low 90s


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[Find_the_Door]

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The thread says this is for the "Top Five Quarterbacks" [emoji6][emoji6]

Nah but I like Romo and he definitely deserves a rating in the high 80s-low 90s


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Should be about...

90 THP
88 Short THA
90 Medium THA
79 Deep THA
93 Play Action
81 Injury
98 Toughness
92 Awareness

IMO