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  • SwaggerCoach
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 1342

    #166
    Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

    OK.

    So I've been testing my playbook repeatedly today and continue to run into the same frustrating challenge:

    The CPU is checking the ball off to the HB FAR too often.

    In multiple games, the HB has led the team in receptions with 7.

    The CPU QB is averaging 4-5 yards per pass.

    Ugh.

    I'm going to continue tweaking this, but it's extremely frustrating to see the CPU not even attempt the deep posts, corner routes, go routes, deep in/out routes I've drawn up for them. And what is REALLY frustrating is seeing them check down to the HB as if the play is designed for that to be the first read...without even allowing the play to develop.

    I saw this happen when I just played a standard game against the CPU with a stock playbook. I played Panthers (me) vs the Saints (CPU). Drew Brees had much better numbers, but he still checked it down far too often. (Spiller and Ingram combined for 8 receptions). But at least Brees put up decent yardage.

    When I tested again with my playbook, it just got worse. And he wouldn't try much of anything downfield.

    Fortunately, when they dialed up a few shot plays, they took some shots...but there are several plays in the playbook designed for deep passes...and even on crucial 3rd and long moments, they just check on down.

    I'm starting to feel like John Malkovich in Rounders.



    Any one else running into this at all? I'm going to scrub through the playbook with a fine comb to find any plays the CPU tends to dump it off to the HB and just delete it. I'll see what I can come up with.

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    • Sgexpat
      Rookie
      • May 2016
      • 292

      #167
      Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

      Originally posted by NoleFan
      I forget which poster stated it but I'm mostly concerned with own team's play calling. From reading through this entire thread it seems I'd be best served by using a generic playbook that matches what I want my team to do.

      Currently, I'm using a modified CLE playbook in my temp CFM and in the last game we looked better. RGIII even completed 60% of his passes.

      Defensive I'm using the generic 4-3 playbook and we had a 14-7 loss to NE in week 5.

      This is CPU vs CPU though
      The cle playbook is really weak this year IMHO.

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      • Sgexpat
        Rookie
        • May 2016
        • 292

        #168
        Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

        Originally posted by Bondsfan
        While I appreciate all the work that goes into something like this, I am mainly only concerned with my own teams play book. Do these also improve your own offensive playcalling suggestions in the strategy tab, or are these strictly designed to improve CPU playcalling only. Are all the plays rated, or is it just a small selection (30) in each category (like 2nd and short, etc) like the default playbooks?

        Each year i fix this myself by removing alot of the 4 vert variations, changing audibles and re rating all the plays to match more what we see on sundays. It is not too hard ince you get going.

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        • NoleFan
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2002
          • 12856

          #169
          Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

          Originally posted by Sgexpat
          The cle playbook is really weak this year IMHO.


          The CLE team is weak! Most frustrating CFM I've ever started lol


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          • Sgexpat
            Rookie
            • May 2016
            • 292

            #170
            Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

            Originally posted by SwaggerCoach
            OK.

            So I've been testing my playbook repeatedly today and continue to run into the same frustrating challenge:

            The CPU is checking the ball off to the HB FAR too often.

            In multiple games, the HB has led the team in receptions with 7.

            The CPU QB is averaging 4-5 yards per pass.

            Ugh.

            I'm going to continue tweaking this, but it's extremely frustrating to see the CPU not even attempt the deep posts, corner routes, go routes, deep in/out routes I've drawn up for them. And what is REALLY frustrating is seeing them check down to the HB as if the play is designed for that to be the first read...without even allowing the play to develop.

            I saw this happen when I just played a standard game against the CPU with a stock playbook. I played Panthers (me) vs the Saints (CPU). Drew Brees had much better numbers, but he still checked it down far too often. (Spiller and Ingram combined for 8 receptions). But at least Brees put up decent yardage.

            When I tested again with my playbook, it just got worse. And he wouldn't try much of anything downfield.

            Fortunately, when they dialed up a few shot plays, they took some shots...but there are several plays in the playbook designed for deep passes...and even on crucial 3rd and long moments, they just check on down.

            I'm starting to feel like John Malkovich in Rounders.



            Any one else running into this at all? I'm going to scrub through the playbook with a fine comb to find any plays the CPU tends to dump it off to the HB and just delete it. I'll see what I can come up with.
            Are you using custom sliders?

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            • vannwolfhawk
              MVP
              • Jun 2009
              • 3412

              #171
              Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

              Originally posted by SwaggerCoach
              Yeah you can switch over to another team's coach profile, make just about any adjustments you want with them, retire them, then create a player profile for that team.

              In the past, when I edited another team's scheme as their coach or made depth chart adjustments, they stuck when I switched over to that team's 3rd string QB.
              That's BIG TIME!

              By the way - I just uploaded the Chargers. Wasn't as happy as the way the packers and steelers came out but still good. I also just uploaded 4 defensive playbooks for the Seahawks, Chargers, steelers, and packers. I'll update the OP when I catch up. I see we got a new ps4 guy too! Awesome!

              Anyways, what I did for defensive playbooks is this.

              1- I got rid of all cover 0 plays.

              2- I added plays to situations

              3- I redid all audibles

              4- I put all stars equal for now. (Feel free to have at it as all anyone has to do is edit the stars in situations now / easy) but it should give great variety. All blitzes are now zone blitzes or at least 1 safety over the top.

              5- again, added zone blitzes


              I have not tested this but assume it has to be better!
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              • vannwolfhawk
                MVP
                • Jun 2009
                • 3412

                #172
                Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                Originally posted by SwaggerCoach
                OK.

                So I've been testing my playbook repeatedly today and continue to run into the same frustrating challenge:

                The CPU is checking the ball off to the HB FAR too often.

                In multiple games, the HB has led the team in receptions with 7.

                The CPU QB is averaging 4-5 yards per pass.

                Ugh.

                I'm going to continue tweaking this, but it's extremely frustrating to see the CPU not even attempt the deep posts, corner routes, go routes, deep in/out routes I've drawn up for them. And what is REALLY frustrating is seeing them check down to the HB as if the play is designed for that to be the first read...without even allowing the play to develop.

                I saw this happen when I just played a standard game against the CPU with a stock playbook. I played Panthers (me) vs the Saints (CPU). Drew Brees had much better numbers, but he still checked it down far too often. (Spiller and Ingram combined for 8 receptions). But at least Brees put up decent yardage.

                When I tested again with my playbook, it just got worse. And he wouldn't try much of anything downfield.

                Fortunately, when they dialed up a few shot plays, they took some shots...but there are several plays in the playbook designed for deep passes...and even on crucial 3rd and long moments, they just check on down.

                I'm starting to feel like John Malkovich in Rounders.



                Any one else running into this at all? I'm going to scrub through the playbook with a fine comb to find any plays the CPU tends to dump it off to the HB and just delete it. I'll see what I can come up with.
                The key is only putting passing plays that have 3-4 deep routes and you will start seeing this. The CPU does check down if need be but you can also eliminate slightly with plays with no check down. I made sure to add longer routes on 2nd and short as well as shorter routes on 2nd and long. This means I get some longer plays in short yardage situations more often as I'm worried about the run, etc. of course it all hinges on your playcall on defense too and if open or not.
                Basketball Playbooks
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                • SwaggerCoach
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1342

                  #173
                  Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                  Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                  The key is only putting passing plays that have 3-4 deep routes and you will start seeing this. The CPU does check down if need be but you can also eliminate slightly with plays with no check down. I made sure to add longer routes on 2nd and short as well as shorter routes on 2nd and long. This means I get some longer plays in short yardage situations more often as I'm worried about the run, etc. of course it all hinges on your playcall on defense too and if open or not.
                  Thanks for the suggestions. I'm going to go tweak the playbook tomorrow and see what I can come up with.

                  I have a few theories as well:

                  1. I'm usering the MLB and so I bet the HB checkdowns (which are usually either curls or flats) are being missed by me from time to time

                  2. I'm using too strong of a team. Pressure is being created with no problem at all...which is realistic, I mean...I'm playing as Carolina...and Brees hasn't had enough time to get the ball downfield

                  3. I can still tweak sliders. I haven't done a whole lot with them so far. I'm thinking about lowering HUM coverage to entice deeper throws.

                  More on this tomorrow.

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                  • vannwolfhawk
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 3412

                    #174
                    Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                    Originally posted by SwaggerCoach
                    Thanks for the suggestions. I'm going to go tweak the playbook tomorrow and see what I can come up with.

                    I have a few theories as well:

                    1. I'm usering the MLB and so I bet the HB checkdowns (which are usually either curls or flats) are being missed by me from time to time

                    2. I'm using too strong of a team. Pressure is being created with no problem at all...which is realistic, I mean...I'm playing as Carolina...and Brees hasn't had enough time to get the ball downfield

                    3. I can still tweak sliders. I haven't done a whole lot with them so far. I'm thinking about lowering HUM coverage to entice deeper throws.

                    More on this tomorrow.
                    So there is a few things to think about outside of what we already talked about as well as you use ring the mlb.

                    1- what is Drew Bree's play style at qb? Is it ideal? Aggressive? I'm playing steelers now vs Seahawks. I'm in the quarter and rothlesberger has gone deep 3x. 1 was a touchdown on the pa max protect play. A brown burnt my cover 3 press against Jeremy lane. The other 2 he went deep toward Sherman who I user swatted 2 away. I'm thinking it might have to also deal with player qb style.

                    2- playcall offensively and defensively

                    3- but also just as big is certain plays to get that result. Look at plays that have max protect built in with just 2-3 receiver deep routes. But make sure to put them on 1st down, 2nd and medium and short, as well as I put on 3rd and short to see if I can catch myself off guard expecting a run.
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                    • NoleFan
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 12856

                      #175
                      Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                      I said I was only concerned with my team but 7 games into a temp CFM, I'm sick of every team being a power run team. Literally every team plays the same to me


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                      • Sphinx
                        Emerald Archer
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 877

                        #176
                        Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                        So, I'm having a problem. On xbox, I created the a second profile on the system and downloaded some playbooks and then switched to my main profile and went back into my cfm, created the backup qb and went to set the playbooks before the game, I can't see the playbooks I downloaded and when I try to switch to the "dummy" profile it can't see my cfm. Am I missing a step somewhere? Thanks guys for all the hard work.

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                        • NoleFan
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 12856

                          #177
                          Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                          I switched my CLE team to the generic west coast book and rated all situations as ½ star. Also using the generic 3-4 book. We beat 1-6 NYJ, 24-16.

                          CLE wins 2 straight and improves to 2-7 after a 24-13 win over DAL (5-2)

                          CPU vs CPU


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                          • DeuceDouglas
                            Madden Dev Team
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 4297

                            #178
                            Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                            Originally posted by Sphinx
                            So, I'm having a problem. On xbox, I created the a second profile on the system and downloaded some playbooks and then switched to my main profile and went back into my cfm, created the backup qb and went to set the playbooks before the game, I can't see the playbooks I downloaded and when I try to switch to the "dummy" profile it can't see my cfm. Am I missing a step somewhere? Thanks guys for all the hard work.

                            I was having a ton of issues at first within CFM doing this as well but kind of figured out the easiest way to do it I think.

                            The big thing for me was being signed into only one account and having one controller on at a time until you're ready to play. Seemed like every time I had them both on things became a lot harder and more annoying. What I did was signed into the dummy account only and downloaded the playbooks I wanted to try. Then I exited and signed out of that account and into my main account and loaded up my CFM. With my main account I created another character (3rd string QB) for the team I was playing and went back to my main character.

                            I've only done it once but I didn't plug my second controller in until I was at the team select screen and it prompts you to sign in and that's when I signed into my dummy account and it kicked me from the team select screen back to the CFM menu so it's probably best to sign in beforehand. But then I went to the team select screen again using the main controller, moved the second over and the playbook I downloaded was there.

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                            • xSABOx
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 846

                              #179
                              Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                              Went through the packers playbook and trimmed down every formation to only having 12 plays... Applied all plays to a half star... Assigned every play to 1st down, 2nd/3rd short... Every 11 personal formation to 2nd/3rd long and medium... Fired up a game against cpu and the game crashed lol

                              I started the game as cpu in play now, gave them custom playbook, then a switched back to my team... Could it be how o did it that crashed the game or the amount of plays?
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                              • knich
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 1116

                                #180
                                Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                                Originally posted by Sphinx
                                So, I'm having a problem. On xbox, I created the a second profile on the system and downloaded some playbooks and then switched to my main profile and went back into my cfm, created the backup qb and went to set the playbooks before the game, I can't see the playbooks I downloaded and when I try to switch to the "dummy" profile it can't see my cfm. Am I missing a step somewhere? Thanks guys for all the hard work.


                                Same problem I am having. It seems that this is more of a problem on Xbox than on PS4

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