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  • Uncle Elton John
    Banned
    • Aug 2016
    • 269

    #241
    Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

    Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
    In cfm it doesn't give you the option to switch to a custom playbook. It just shows the stock ones. That's the bad news but the good news is because of this you can still do formation subs and they stick with the custom book when doing this workaround.

    Swagger- I just had an incredible overtime game with Arizona and I was the Seahawks. I was down 20-10 in the 4th and tied it up. But I had a gem with Olmert like you were talking bout. I started playing hard flats as he dumped off to Johnson out of backfield over and over. Then he started throwing the ball away and was 21-44 passing. Mind you I didn't adjust his aggressive b4 the game.

    So this could be 1 of 2 things...

    1- the aggressive style needs to be added to all qb's?

    2- could be a slider thing as coverage is too good possibly so guys are not open he thinks so chooses dump down or throws oob?
    I started with arizona default and adjusted stuff. I saved the playbook as "Arizona". I started existing CFM and was able to add it to the team I was controlling. Under team specific defensive pb it said: "Arizona". I went in-game and the defensive plays as I edited the defensive pb appeared to be there.

    Am I wrong here ? Can one of you that is smarter try this out ?

    And what is a custom book ?

    Also, if I just create on 3-4 and one 4-3 from an existing teams pb - what 3-4 team and 4-3 should I choose to base the new, edited defensive pb after ?

    Thanks and sorry for questions - just excited here.

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    • mavfan21
      MVP
      • Jul 2007
      • 1842

      #242
      Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

      Is there no way to use Formation Subs on a Custom Playbook in CFM?

      I have my custom book set on the team settings screen in CFM, in Coach-Schemes, my custom PB does not appear. When I go to formation subs it's always the team default playbook that's on the scheme menu in coach options.

      Am I missing some step?
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      • Uncle Elton John
        Banned
        • Aug 2016
        • 269

        #243
        Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

        Originally posted by mavfan21
        Is there no way to use Formation Subs on a Custom Playbook in CFM?

        I have my custom book set on the team settings screen in CFM, in Coach-Schemes, my custom PB does not appear. When I go to formation subs it's always the team default playbook that's on the scheme menu in coach options.

        Am I missing some step?
        check ur thread - there is an answer there.

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        • vannwolfhawk
          MVP
          • Jun 2009
          • 3412

          #244
          Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

          Originally posted by mavfan21
          Is there no way to use Formation Subs on a Custom Playbook in CFM?

          I have my custom book set on the team settings screen in CFM, in Coach-Schemes, my custom PB does not appear. When I go to formation subs it's always the team default playbook that's on the scheme menu in coach options.

          Am I missing some step?
          As long as you used your teams playbook as a base or for example let's say your the redskins but use the Chargers playbook as your base you can still switch it to the Chargers. Either way your good. The new formations you added will not show up. Just the formations from the base playbook you started your custom with. The subs hold up into game on those plays but again not the new formations or plays you might have added.
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          • xSABOx
            Pro
            • Sep 2004
            • 846

            #245
            Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

            Finally got it down after doing some tinkering... The crashing was caused by having too many plays in the game plan...

            Copying vans idea and I've so far done the colts and Titans because they're on the lions schedule... Gonna tackle those teams first then gonna try to get the rest of the league down...

            First I had to do was was condense each teams playbook down to about 250 plays... Second I assigned every play in the playbook to all situations 1st/2nd/3rd down... Third I assigned every single play in the playbook a half star... Fourth I removed all four vertical plays from the gameplan...

            So far the results have been phenomenal because you never know what the cpu is doing because they can run any play at any time out of every formation!!

            These are for the PS4, I'll upload soon...
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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #246
              Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

              Well this sucks.....looks like I wont be able to use the playbooks again this year.

              Here is the problem:

              I run a 32 team offline franchise. In order to assign the playbooks to a CPU team, I have to retire the coach and select a player (3rd string QB) so that the game wont freeze when I assign the playbook.

              The problem is that the minute you switch from a coach to a player...all of the formation subs reset.

              So I'm forced to choose between using formation subs (which is needed in order to get backup RBs carries because EA cant figure out how to make autosubs work)

              or

              Playbooks (which are needed to make the CPU play realistically).

              I'm gonna choose formation subs because this year the CPU does a decent job of calling plays in my experience.

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              • DeuceDouglas
                Madden Dev Team
                • Apr 2010
                • 4297

                #247
                Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                Originally posted by aholbert32
                Well this sucks.....looks like I wont be able to use the playbooks again this year.

                Here is the problem:

                I run a 32 team offline franchise. In order to assign the playbooks to a CPU team, I have to retire the coach and select a player (3rd string QB) so that the game wont freeze when I assign the playbook.

                The problem is that the minute you switch from a coach to a player...all of the formation subs reset.

                So I'm forced to choose between using formation subs (which is needed in order to get backup RBs carries because EA cant figure out how to make autosubs work)

                or

                Playbooks (which are needed to make the CPU play realistically).

                I'm gonna choose formation subs because this year the CPU does a decent job of calling plays in my experience.
                This was the same qualm I was in and I had a strong feeling formation subs would reset when changing characters but hadn't tested it yet. That really stinks.

                I wish they'd figure out a way for customs to make it into CFM whether it be by having to load them in before you started the CFM or something. If they could just be set from the schemes menu and stick it would be so much easier. Sucks how poorly designed CFM is.

                I've decided to go with the playbooks over 32-team control just because the last few years it's been so time consuming because I want to do everything. From my experience with 17 though some teams do playcall pretty good. I played the Hawks yesterday and they called a great game but I just played the a Ravens a little bit ago and they must have called spacing and verticals for 80% of their pass plays and it was horrible.

                Edit: If formation subs against the team you're playing is all that matters for you (and not 32-team roster management), couldn't you theoretically just create a character for playbooks and then assign their formation subs each week so you can do both? Or can you not set team formation subs as a player in CFM?
                Last edited by DeuceDouglas; 08-28-2016, 03:14 AM.

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                • FinnishRaider
                  Rookie
                  • May 2012
                  • 46

                  #248
                  Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                  Does anybody have this problem too? This problem is about custom playbooks for the User.

                  I am in the main menu. I add some plays to Raiders defensive playbook. I'm not adding any new formations or anything, just couple of plays to Nickel - Normal formation to try out custom playbooks in the franchise.Then I will save my playbook.

                  Then I'll start a franchise, go to Formation Subs, and I will see Nickel - Normal, and make changes that I like. Then i'll go to game or practice and when I am choosing my Nickel formation and Normal set, I don't see it. Playbook has entirely different Sets in Nickel formation inside the game that it had in the main menu or in Formation Subs in Franchise. In the game the Sets has been changes to Nickel - Even 2-4-6 or something.

                  Also for example 4-3 formations has disappeared, even though it is in Del Rios defensive playbook before I start a game or practice in Franchise Mode.

                  This is getting so frustrating . What do I do wrong here?

                  Thanks.

                  EDIT: I tested them in the Play Now, and Custom playbook worked. There was those plays that I added.
                  Last edited by FinnishRaider; 08-28-2016, 04:09 AM.

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                  • King Gro23
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2548

                    #249
                    Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                    I hope everyone is enjoying the game. I'll be joining into the playbook madness. I consider myself pretty hip to the current league and trends of play calls. I'm a Pro football focus junkie, I like analysis and analytics like that. I play semi professional football and read NFL play books

                    I operate on the PS4 system, trying to find an easy way to load play books into CFM but looks as many of us are having trouble.

                    I'll piggy back on swagger and say Aggressive "force passes" trait makes for far better CPU QB, but I don't want to global edit everyone.

                    Shot plays eliminate check downs and actually are very big addition to madden. I think every shot play should be in playbook game plans

                    Quote this if you are working on playbook project for PS4.. I'd like to see what teams have been worked on -
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                    • NoleFan
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 12856

                      #250
                      Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                      I don't know if it's because I switched to generic playbooks or what but my CLE team looks a lot better despite being 3-9.

                      This is only supposed to be a temp CFM until EA gives us week 1 rosters but I'm getting attached...


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                      • D81SKINS
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 1671

                        #251
                        Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                        Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                        In cfm it doesn't give you the option to switch to a custom playbook. It just shows the stock ones. That's the bad news but the good news is because of this you can still do formation subs and they stick with the custom book when doing this workaround.

                        Swagger- I just had an incredible overtime game with Arizona and I was the Seahawks. I was down 20-10 in the 4th and tied it up. But I had a gem with Olmert like you were talking bout. I started playing hard flats as he dumped off to Johnson out of backfield over and over. Then he started throwing the ball away and was 21-44 passing. Mind you I didn't adjust his aggressive b4 the game.

                        So this could be 1 of 2 things...

                        1- the aggressive style needs to be added to all qb's?

                        2- could be a slider thing as coverage is too good possibly so guys are not open he thinks so chooses dump down or throws oob?
                        I would play with qb edits 1st, hopefully the 1st patch includes this and qb scramble is fixed.
                        I just wouldn't want to mess up how good the defenses are doing by messing with sliders.

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                        • SwaggerCoach
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1342

                          #252
                          Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                          Originally posted by King Gro23
                          I hope everyone is enjoying the game. I'll be joining into the playbook madness. I consider myself pretty hip to the current league and trends of play calls. I'm a Pro football focus junkie, I like analysis and analytics like that. I play semi professional football and read NFL play books

                          I operate on the PS4 system, trying to find an easy way to load play books into CFM but looks as many of us are having trouble.

                          I'll piggy back on swagger and say Aggressive "force passes" trait makes for far better CPU QB, but I don't want to global edit everyone.

                          Shot plays eliminate check downs and actually are very big addition to madden. I think every shot play should be in playbook game plans

                          Quote this if you are working on playbook project for PS4.. I'd like to see what teams have been worked on -
                          Nice! Glad to have ya on board! Van has updated the OP with a list of all playbooks on PS4 and Xbox. So far, the Rams Offense and a Balanced Attack offense have been done.

                          I know Scott wants a Cowboys playbook. I'm working on a Vertical Attack playbook now.

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                          • aholbert32
                            (aka Alberto)
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 33106

                            #253
                            Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                            Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                            This was the same qualm I was in and I had a strong feeling formation subs would reset when changing characters but hadn't tested it yet. That really stinks.

                            I wish they'd figure out a way for customs to make it into CFM whether it be by having to load them in before you started the CFM or something. If they could just be set from the schemes menu and stick it would be so much easier. Sucks how poorly designed CFM is.

                            I've decided to go with the playbooks over 32-team control just because the last few years it's been so time consuming because I want to do everything. From my experience with 17 though some teams do playcall pretty good. I played the Hawks yesterday and they called a great game but I just played the a Ravens a little bit ago and they must have called spacing and verticals for 80% of their pass plays and it was horrible.

                            Edit: If formation subs against the team you're playing is all that matters for you (and not 32-team roster management), couldn't you theoretically just create a character for playbooks and then assign their formation subs each week so you can do both? Or can you not set team formation subs as a player in CFM?
                            Nope. You cant assign formation subs as a player. So the minute you switch to a player character, the subs reset and there is no way to reinput them before you play the game.

                            The same thing happened with Depth Chart changes last year. The minute you switch to a player, the CPU takes over and resets any changes you made.

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                            • sphinxnole
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 49

                              #254
                              Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                              I Don't See the Rams Playbook Listed by Teefmummy...!!

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                              • mooch49
                                Pro
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 915

                                #255
                                Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                                Hey all. Great to see more people using this workaround. Thanks to van and swaggercoach for keeping it alive.

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