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  • Sm27
    Rookie
    • Oct 2004
    • 177

    #331
    Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

    Originally posted by xSABOx
    Let me know how they play out for you... Admittedly I only played one full game after getting a feel for how to make the books... Here's hoping that the gameplay matches the theory! That AND the game doesn't crash....
    This takes me back to the "Manifesto for Madden 2005" days....It was ALWAYS about the playbooks. That has where 99% of our gameplay issues have come from. Always has been. I used to do the "two controller" method back then as well. Back then, we didn't have a direct way of "weighting" the plays in the playbook like you do now. We had "coaching sliders" where you would assign a percentage between Pass plays and Run plays, and Aggressive or Conservative.

    I just spent the last ½ hour setting up a second ESN account on my PS4 and have downloaded all of your playbook for both of my profiles. One thing, all I saw were Offensive Playbooks (20). Did you do, or do you have plans to do Defensive Playbooks as well?
    Great work.
    Here is the Manifesto from 2005:

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-download.html
    Attached Files
    Last edited by Sm27; 08-30-2016, 05:21 AM. Reason: Attached link to Madden Manifesto

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    • Grandview2015
      Banned
      • Sep 2015
      • 327

      #332
      Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

      Originally posted by ocho cuatro
      Not within CFM. Here are the options

      [ATTACH]123624[/ATTACH]

      [ATTACH]123625[/ATTACH]

      [ATTACH]123626[/ATTACH]
      After double checking you are correct. Ideal is the best route

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      • SwaggerCoach
        MVP
        • Oct 2011
        • 1342

        #333
        Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

        Originally posted by LionsFanNJ
        ok redid some more work with my Rams PB. Fixed a few of the situations i kinda messed up last time. Added back and weighed the runs better. Still worried Goff won't look mid/deep though. I tried to cut out lots of plays with short routes in longer down/distance. As always, work in progress.

        Ramscustom

        PSN: Teefmummy
        Awesome! Looking forward to testing

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        • SwaggerCoach
          MVP
          • Oct 2011
          • 1342

          #334
          Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

          Originally posted by xSABOx
          Just finished half of the league up... Will probably wrap up the rest of them in a week or so... Reminder these are strictly for CPU, haven't tried them as a user relying on suggestions/strategy picks...

          THE MISSION
          Got rid of most four vertical plays that plagued the game plan... Assigned all plays to 1st/2nd/3rd down except for running formations, excluded them from 3rd and long/medium... Every play has a half star so that any play can be called at any time... I'm seeing them still play situations and not just randomly calling any play regardless of situation... The call variety is almost like playing a user who doesn't abuse money plays because you never know what they're calling...


          PSN NAME
          Sabo00FF

          TEAMS COMPLETED
          GB - Chi - Min - Det
          Jax - Hou - Ind - Ten
          Was - NYG - Dal - Phi
          Ari - Sea - LA - SF
          NO - Car - Atl

          FILE DESCRIPTION
          OS FORUMS:[insert team name]
          Very cool! I just downloaded a few of them - will test them out when I get a chance. Thanks for all the hard work!!!

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          • Scott
            Your Go-to TV Expert
            • Jul 2002
            • 20030

            #335
            Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

            Originally posted by xSABOx
            Just finished half of the league up... Will probably wrap up the rest of them in a week or so... Reminder these are strictly for CPU, haven't tried them as a user relying on suggestions/strategy picks...

            THE MISSION
            Got rid of most four vertical plays that plagued the game plan... Assigned all plays to 1st/2nd/3rd down except for running formations, excluded them from 3rd and long/medium... Every play has a half star so that any play can be called at any time... I'm seeing them still play situations and not just randomly calling any play regardless of situation... The call variety is almost like playing a user who doesn't abuse money plays because you never know what they're calling...


            PSN NAME
            Sabo00FF

            TEAMS COMPLETED
            GB - Chi - Min - Det
            Jax - Hou - Ind - Ten
            Was - NYG - Dal - Phi
            Ari - Sea - LA - SF
            NO - Car - Atl

            FILE DESCRIPTION
            OS FORUMS:[insert team name]
            Are these for PS4 or XB1?

            Edit: Nevermind, I see PS4. Thanks.
            PSN-Shugarooo
            Steam-ScottM.816
            Twitch.tv/Shugarooo
            Want to follow my Franchises? Join my discord: https://discord.gg/nHbNCWmmGs

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            • xSABOx
              Pro
              • Sep 2004
              • 846

              #336
              Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

              Glad to hear others had downloaded so far, hopefully you enjoy them!! Let me know any feedback...I might do a few defensive play books soon... Only if I see positive results from these first...

              PSN NAME
              Sabo00FF

              TEAMS COMPLETED
              GB - Chi - Min - Det
              Was - NYG - Dal - Phi
              Ari - Sea - LA - SF
              NO - Car - Atl - TB
              Jax - Hou - Ind - Ten
              Bal - Cle - Cin - Pit

              FILE DESCRIPTION
              OS FORUMS:[insert team name]
              Got rid of most four vertical plays that plagued the game plan... Assigned all plays to 1st/2nd/3rd down except for running formations, excluded them from 3rd and long/medium... Every play has a half star so that any play can be called at any time... I'm seeing them still play situations and not just randomly calling any play regardless of situation... The call variety is almost like playing a user who doesn't abuse money plays because you never know what they're calling
              DISCORD - Madden Modding Community Discord

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              • Bmore Irish
                The Future
                • Jul 2011
                • 3461

                #337
                Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                So for the opposing player workaround, I'm assuming you can use any active player who won't see the field? I'd prefer not to cut players just to do the 3rd qb trick.

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                • SwaggerCoach
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1342

                  #338
                  Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                  Originally posted by Bmore Irish
                  So for the opposing player workaround, I'm assuming you can use any active player who won't see the field? I'd prefer not to cut players just to do the 3rd qb trick.
                  Correct. You could do any position as long as you're confident they won't see the field.

                  Beware fatigue substitutions

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                  • auburnfan2
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 466

                    #339
                    Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                    Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                    Some of you remember this thread from last year. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...playbooks.html I have tested playbooks for the CPU and the workaround from last year (thanks to swagger coach) still works. This year you can assign the CPU playbooks in play now (couldn't last year) as well as cfm. For play now you just need a 2nd controller. Download the custom playbook and go to play now and advanced settings and set the playbook you want for both teams. Once you assign a playbook start the game. Once the game starts move the 2nd controller to CPU. You will have to initially call the 1st play but after the kick its all the CPU.

                    As for cfm it's a little different. Once you start the cfm as a owner or coach. You will need to go to settings and select starter to off. Then you will then create a 2nd profile by clicking the R stick down. Select a team and then pick a player (not a owner or coach) and choose a backup qb from Undrafted. He will then be a 3rd qb on your depth chart and never see the field. You can then go and play the same way selecting and using 2 controllers. This time however after you select your teams playbook in the team select screen you will just click advance to game as the user. Then your done. The only other thing you will need to do is make sure your 2nd controller is plugged into your Xbox so it doesn't auto shut off as this will kick you from the game. If it's plugged in you are good to go.

                    For those who do not no this is a game changer in how the CPU ai plays. They now play to their strengths, use plays they call irl and make the CPU ai incredible. All the situations and audibles are redone. All the play actions on 3rd and long gone, most all verticals gone. I just finished the panthers rough draft and went and tested it. I was shutting teams down to under 10 most all games before giving the panthers their playbook. I played 1 quarter and gave up 21 points. Like I said it's a game changer. I'm loving the game without playbooks but this takes it to a whole different level. If you don't believe me go download and try yourself.

                    This thread will be for any questions or players who create real team playbooks. I will post them in this thread in the OP. We can also use it as information for people looking to add real plays or routes. So if your team likes to throw lot of screens on 2nd or 3rd and long, etc just throw it out in this thread.

                    Last thing - it was stated you can not use formation subs with custom playbooks. That is true and false. If you start a playbook with your team you can still do formation subs with any formation that was in the original playbook. If you add a new formation you will have to change in game. But in cfm as a player if you choose to do playbooks then because you chose a player you can not (as far as I can tell as of now) change depth charts or formation subs...

                    I have already done a few playbooks that you can download now under my gamertag - vannwolfhawk206 for the xbox1.

                    XBOX 1 PLAYBOOKS - all are rough drafts except the teams listed in bold

                    DEFENSIVE PLAYBOOKS

                    - Seahawks - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/26/16)
                    - Steelers - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/26/16)
                    - Packers - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/26/16)
                    - Chargers - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/26/16)

                    - Cardinals - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/27/16)
                    - Cowboys - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/28/16)
                    - Panthers - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/28/16)
                    - Vikings - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/28/16)

                    For the defensive play books here is what I did. First off, I used each teams base defense and didn't really add any new plays outside of that. I wanted everyone to still have the ability to use formation subs in cfm still. I also eliminated (in the star ratings as I did not delete from the playbook as just in case a user wants to use it) all cover 0 plays for the CPU. I did all the audibles, assigned all blitzes to zone blitzes or man blitzes with 1 deep safety. I have all the stars rated the same for now for variety. I also added plays and deleted plays for different situations. Gone forever is the 3rd and 15 double safety blitz or cover 0 plays called by the CPU!

                    Edit: there is a glitch with defensive playbooks with the wildcat and empty packages. Default books have nickel sets for empty packages. I changed to dime, dollar, and quarters but it will not save. Same with the wildcat so again it's a glitch I can't do anything about. They were changed in playbooks but when saved it defaults back except gives plays higher star ratings for some reason...

                    OFFENSIVE PLAYBOOKS

                    - Panthers - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/23/16)
                    - Packers - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (final draft done and updated on 8/25/16)
                    - Patriots - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                    - Vikings - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                    - Falcons - Offensive Playbook - Vannwolfhawk206
                    - Cardinals - offensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/27/16)
                    - 49ers - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                    - Saints - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                    - Rams - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                    - Buccaneers - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                    - Dolphins - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                    - Eagles - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                    - Bills - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                    - Steelers - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (final draft done and updated on 8/25/16)
                    - Cowboys - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                    - Jets - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                    - Chargers - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/26/16)



                    PS4 PLAYBOOKS

                    File name: BALANCED OFFENSE
                    PSN: TheCouchGuy9
                    Description: Operation Sports Balanced Attack pb for CPU


                    File Name: VERTICAL
                    PSN: TheCouchGuy9
                    Description: Operation Sports Vertical Attack pb for CPU

                    File name: RAMS OFFENSE
                    PSN: Teefmummy

                    File: REDSKINS OFFENSE
                    Name : SaboFF00
                    Title: WAS


                    PSN NAME
                    Sabo00FF
                    TEAMS COMPLETED
                    GB - Chi - Min - Det
                    Jax - Hou - Ind - Ten
                    Was - NYG - Dal - Phi
                    Ari - Sea - LA - SF
                    NO

                    FILE DESCRIPTION
                    OS FORUMS:[insert team nAme]
                    Are you doing all 32 teams play books or just the ones on first page?

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                    “I just hate getting caught in the open field. That would be shameful of me.” -Cam Newton

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                    • DeuceDouglas
                      Madden Dev Team
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 4297

                      #340
                      Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                      I made a Chargers playbook since they're my first opponent in CFM this year but haven't gotten to testing it yet. I'll probably end up testing it tomorrow but it's the first playbook I've made so if anyone would be willing to give it a shot and let me know how it plays it'd be greatly appreciated. I wasn't sure what to do with the audibles so I just left them the same and I highly doubt it will be anywhere near the level of Vann's but if it goes over well I'll start doing more of the AFC or any teams that aren't done.

                      System: Xbox 1
                      GT: DeuceDouglas
                      File Name: CustomChargers

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                      • Rjrosco
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 177

                        #341
                        Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                        I want to create a playbook for myself that basically has 1 of every passing route and running route in the game with various formations.

                        Does anyone have a list of know of one to download listing this information.
                        Best formations for each route.

                        Ex. Slants. Shotgun...singleback
                        Curls

                        There so many versions of different routes just trying to find the best to edit into my playbook

                        The downloadable ones in this list is good but most have around 120 passing plays option in 1st down suggestions to only about 50 run play options looking for some balance
                        Last edited by Rjrosco; 08-30-2016, 10:15 PM. Reason: Edit

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                        • SwaggerCoach
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1342

                          #342
                          Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                          Originally posted by xSABOx
                          Let me know how they play out for you... Admittedly I only played one full game after getting a feel for how to make the books... Here's hoping that the gameplay matches the theory! That AND the game doesn't crash....
                          Sabo, got a chance to test out your Dallas Playbook.

                          I was the Redskins vs Cowboys.

                          Notes:
                          - Awesome variety - saw lots of different pass plays in there. Short, medium, and deep
                          - Zeke only ran the ball 9 times. Partly because Romo chucked 3 INT's - but also because he didn't have enough plays dialed up for him. Also, the few runs I did see came on 3rd and medium situations (like 3rd and 5 or 6) which didn't feel realistic
                          - The Stick pass concept was called repeatedly and was too predictable to stop. I personally eliminate that play out of all of my playbooks because of how poorly the AI tends to execute it. 9 times out of 10 they throw to the flat to the TE who steps out for a 2 yard gain.

                          Great first attempt man. It was a lot of fun. If the CPU could dial up more running plays on 1st and 2nd and less on 3rd, in my opinion, you'll have a killer playbook. Thanks again for all the hard work.

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                          • vannwolfhawk
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 3412

                            #343
                            Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                            Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                            I made a Chargers playbook since they're my first opponent in CFM this year but haven't gotten to testing it yet. I'll probably end up testing it tomorrow but it's the first playbook I've made so if anyone would be willing to give it a shot and let me know how it plays it'd be greatly appreciated. I wasn't sure what to do with the audibles so I just left them the same and I highly doubt it will be anywhere near the level of Vann's but if it goes over well I'll start doing more of the AFC or any teams that aren't done.

                            System: Xbox 1
                            GT: DeuceDouglas
                            File Name: CustomChargers
                            Op updated with this playbook...
                            Basketball Playbooks
                            http://www.nextplayhoops.com

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                            • D81SKINS
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 1671

                              #344
                              Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                              UPDATE 8/30/16
                              I'm able to use the 2nd controller trick, control 32 teams(to create another user/coach, press R3 down in franchise), and adjust the Playbooks!?!?

                              You can create a coach/use existing coach for the CPU and still move the controller back to the middle!

                              What's this mean?
                              We can still change the CPU teams PB, adjust the autosubs, and traits.
                              I would suggest just giving the CPU a Custom PB, it did a weird dog piling event(super sim was locked out)at Kickoff when I had custom PBs on both teams.
                              I will report my findings asap!

                              Update:
                              2nd try, just stuck customs on CPU (red, 2nd controller) and put mine to default Redskins) and the game froze before loading all the way at start game screen.

                              3rd test AND FINAL TEST,
                              Already had the controllers/Users Playbook setup on the controller, remembers which Playbook you were on when the game froze.

                              1st. my 2nd controller was OFF, up until I was ready to start the game and then move it back to the middle. Didn't even have to go into "Advanced Setting" on the start screen b/c it automatically remembers based off the controller/user.

                              It worked this time! No lie!
                              You can now use 32 team Coaching control and STILL have custom PBs!
                              So we get the best of both worlds!
                              Adjusted CPU playcalling, Adjusted autosubs, And QB trait/Team player editing!!



                              http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2048382109
                              Last edited by D81SKINS; 08-30-2016, 11:52 PM.

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                              • SwaggerCoach
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 1342

                                #345
                                Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                                Originally posted by LionsFanNJ
                                ok redid some more work with my Rams PB. Fixed a few of the situations i kinda messed up last time. Added back and weighed the runs better. Still worried Goff won't look mid/deep though. I tried to cut out lots of plays with short routes in longer down/distance. As always, work in progress.

                                Ramscustom

                                PSN: Teefmummy
                                Played with the updated playbook just now. Game was incredible, man. Perfect run/pass balance. Gurley absolutely GUTTED me for almost 200 yards. Sheesh. The Rams ran 21 times in total. Goff was something like 20/36 for around 280.

                                You nailed it, man. Looking forward to more!!

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