A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

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  • bbuf0733
    Rookie
    • Aug 2014
    • 55

    #136
    Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

    Originally posted by eco
    how is x factor playng in cpu vscpu? i imagine should be amazing to watch
    CPU vs CPU should be very interesting on All-Madden/Simulation/100 Speed Threshold

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    • BigOrangeVol4Life
      Pro
      • Dec 2013
      • 769

      #137
      Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

      Here's hoping we can assign all 32 teams to the CPU and move both controllers to the middle before every CPU vs CPU offline franchise game during the season. Why can't it be that easy?

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      • AndrewTruth
        Just started!
        • Jul 2019
        • 1

        #138
        Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

        I'm looking forward to trying your sliders. Been playing offline CFM cpu vs cpu, and have a great team and enjoy watching, but lately my QB has been throwing way too many INTs. One game he threw 9 INTS. Makes the game unwatcheable.

        One thing that improved things for me was lowering INTs from 45 to 40, as well as changing difficulty from All-Madden to All-Pro. I'm guessing on All-Madden the opposition is boosted, which takes away from the CPU v. CPU authenticity.

        After scouring your threads a bit I noticed that accelerated clocks might be affecting things. That's interesting. I'm going to take it off. It's dumb anyways, as AI won't switch to no huddle until two minutes even when you are down more than one score.

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        • eco
          Rookie
          • Jun 2016
          • 45

          #139
          Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

          Originally posted by AndrewTruth
          I'm looking forward to trying your sliders. Been playing offline CFM cpu vs cpu, and have a great team and enjoy watching, but lately my QB has been throwing way too many INTs. One game he threw 9 INTS. Makes the game unwatcheable.

          One thing that improved things for me was lowering INTs from 45 to 40, as well as changing difficulty from All-Madden to All-Pro. I'm guessing on All-Madden the opposition is boosted, which takes away from the CPU v. CPU authenticity.

          After scouring your threads a bit I noticed that accelerated clocks might be affecting things. That's interesting. I'm going to take it off. It's dumb anyways, as AI won't switch to no huddle until two minutes even when you are down more than one score.
          Houston we have a problem... if a qb yet have intercept when ea say that a superstar play like a superstar we have a true problem that ea need fix before release, our i no will buy it.

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          • Slim4824
            Rookie
            • Jul 2011
            • 399

            #140
            Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

            Originally posted by eco
            Houston we have a problem... if a qb yet have intercept when ea say that a superstar play like a superstar we have a true problem that ea need fix before release, our i no will buy it.
            I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

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            • heaf1966
              Rookie
              • Jul 2013
              • 25

              #141
              Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

              Originally posted by drj32
              well the only thing different is I am spectating on very slow speed.

              Dont like any faster because then it loses all realism (even though its already poor in realism).

              Also I am skipping cut scenes of endless replays, coach reactions etc..., just dont have the patience for waiting.

              I dont know if this is causing the problems but did not notice any difference when skipping cutscenes or not...


              Is smashing the X button constantly the only way to get past the cut scenes? Annoying watching the huddle for 15 seconds.


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              • eco
                Rookie
                • Jun 2016
                • 45

                #142
                Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

                dak preskot is a x factor /?i saw he defeat all x factor qb in youtube

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                • coach422001
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 1492

                  #143
                  Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

                  Originally posted by eco
                  dak preskot is a x factor /?i saw he defeat all x factor qb in youtube
                  Are you saying that Dak Prescott is beating all other QB with X-factors on YouTube videos you're seeing. Are these all CPU v CPU games?

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                  • Shugg
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 17

                    #144
                    Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

                    Originally posted by mrprice33
                    Yes, there's a Q+A, yes there's a whole thread about CPU-CPU, but, it seems a lot of people are still real confused on how this stuff works.

                    So, here's the ultimate breakdown:

                    When in play now against the CPU or CFM against the CPU, the user can elect to enter the Super Sim menu either by pushing in the left stick or going to the pause menu and selecting "Super Sim."

                    Additionally, when starting a game in CFM, the user will have the option to enter directly into a super sim environment, either in play the moment, or any of the other options.

                    Either way, they'll be presented with multiple options.



                    This is the main Super Sim screen. This comes up when you access Super Sim from either the playcall menu or the pause menu.

                    You have 3 options. First is "Custom Play Options"



                    As you can see, there are four options: Play Key Moments (This is "Play the Moment"), Play Full Game (this is essentially turning Super Sim off and playing a regular game of Madden), Play All Offense (Defense is Simmed, user plays offense) and Play all Defense (Offense is Simmed, user plays defense).

                    If the user selects "Jump Ahead," they're presented with this menu:



                    This allows you to jump ahead exactly as the menu states. If you just want to play every 4th quarter, you can jump ahead to the second. The game will sim forward to the second quarter, then you'd re-enter the super sim menu and jump ahead to the third, and so on and so forth.

                    You can also jump ahead to the end of the game, which will allow you to essentially super sim all the way through the game. You can interrupt it at any time and take over if you want, but if you put the controller down it will play through to the end.

                    Now, for each Super Sim type there are 3 speeds. Normal, Fast, and Slow.

                    On Normal and Fast, you are presented with this screen:



                    It will show you the plays happening in a GameCast-like flow, with only the speed of the plays being shown to you changed by whether or not you choose Normal or Slow. On Normal, you'll be shown a new play every 1-2 seconds or so, while on Fast, you won't really be able to keep up as there are maybe 2 or 3 plays happening per second. Now, you are being shown the plays at different paces, BUT THEY ARE HAPPENING IN ACCORDANCE WITH TRYING TO GET THE GAME TO SIMULATE ABOUT 120-130 PLAYS COMBINED FOR BOTH TEAMS. I wanted to put that in caps just in case it was confusing. The number of plays actually happening is the same, but Super Sim is always calibrated to give you 120-130 plays no matter how long your quarters are or how fast you're wanting to see plays.

                    If you change the speed to Slow, you're going to get this view:



                    Good ol CPU-CPU goodness on broadcast cam.

                    This will play out like a normal game of Madden, except you're spectating. So anything that happens in a normal game (such as there being no linemen injuries), will happen in this view. The commentary will flow, there will be presentation, replays, etc. It's a normal game, played from broadcast cam, without user input. This is also tuned to have about 120-130 plays per game.

                    Now, you can interchange all of these options, if you want. So you can do Play the Moments with Super Sim Slow and essentially watch the game in broadcast, and be able to jump in for important moments. You can skip to end with Super Sim Slow and the game will play out in broadcast cam in full. You can Super Sim Slow to the 4th quarter and take over for the 4th. You can Super Sim Fast to the 4th and change to Super Sim Slow. You can Super Sim Fast to the second half then Super Sim Slow into Play Key Moments. You can Play all Offense and Super Sim Slow Defense. You can Play All Defense and Super Sim Fast all Offense. You can Play the Moments on Offense and Super Sim Slow Defense, etc etc. Any combination of these sets of options is allowed.

                    You can also combine this with 32-team control in CFM. So you can have the CPU control all aspects of the 31 other teams, and Super Sim Slow every game if you want.

                    However, there is a downside to this, and it's that the in-game ticker will only update user games that were played prior to the current game. So if there are 8 games at 1 PM, when you are watching the 3rd one, you'll only see scores from the Thursday game and the 2 1 PM games that you simmed prior to the one that you are currently watching.

                    If you do not enter games and simulate/play them to completion, they will not show up on the ticker.

                    I would ask that the mods sticky and lock this so as to not to clutter it up. If anyone has something that they want to add to this thread, please PM me and I will edit the post with additional information. Thanks!


                    dope, thanks



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                    • cbraddy629
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 86

                      #145
                      Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

                      Does anyone know how to make my Xbox controller from turning itself off?! It’s super annoying when the game pauses constantly. I have tried fresh batteries and also plugged the controller in and it still turns off after x amount of time not touched.

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                      • coach422001
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 1492

                        #146
                        Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

                        Originally posted by cbraddy629
                        Does anyone know how to make my Xbox controller from turning itself off?! It’s super annoying when the game pauses constantly. I have tried fresh batteries and also plugged the controller in and it still turns off after x amount of time not touched.
                        There may be an elaborate workaround but I never tried anything. I half thought about reviving my 2017 game then I realized it was on the Xbox...i won't be buying a sports game on xbox again for this reason.

                        They used to allow the setting to keep the controller from timing out but they took this out. There isn't anything obvious to try.

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                        • Steven547
                          MVP
                          • May 2004
                          • 3797

                          #147
                          Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

                          Originally posted by cbraddy629
                          Does anyone know how to make my Xbox controller from turning itself off?! It’s super annoying when the game pauses constantly. I have tried fresh batteries and also plugged the controller in and it still turns off after x amount of time not touched.
                          Check the internet. It could be a firmware update needed. But others talked about it disconnecting when hooked to a headset. Is there a setting on the XBOX? I have a PS4 now, so not sure about the XBOX settings...

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                          • coach422001
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1492

                            #148
                            Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

                            Originally posted by Steven547
                            Check the internet. It could be a firmware update needed. But others talked about it disconnecting when hooked to a headset. Is there a setting on the XBOX? I have a PS4 now, so not sure about the XBOX settings...
                            I have the 360 and still play 12 and the console does not time out; there is a setting for this. On xboxone there is no setting, so after 15 minutes without input the came goes to a pause mode. If you're a CPU v CPU guy then PS4 or PC is the way to go. Maybe the next gen will put this functionality back.

                            This doesn't take into account someone on the internet figuring out a way to alter this through non-traditional means

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                            • tommycoa
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 4982

                              #149
                              Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

                              Originally posted by coach422001
                              I have the 360 and still play 12 and the console does not time out; there is a setting for this. On xboxone there is no setting, so after 15 minutes without input the came goes to a pause mode. If you're a CPU v CPU guy then PS4 or PC is the way to go. Maybe the next gen will put this functionality back.

                              This doesn't take into account someone on the internet figuring out a way to alter this through non-traditional means
                              You’ve got to use the usb cable that came with xbox works best, and you also need something to pin down one of the joysticks. Just got the game and figured out some sliders. Game’s playing really well in cfm with a single team. Having a great time. Rented the game from redbox to test the sliders I consulted on without the game. People was loving them so i went and re-rented the game again. It’s good.

                              Have any problems with keeping the controller connected or sliders, shoot me a pm.
                              For an alltime legends team on xbox, search usertag haughtypine7723

                              The file is called xboxassantesgreatestever.

                              Teams finished:
                              Bears, bills, browns, KC, Dall, Miami, Philly, ATL, SF, NYG, Jags, GB, NE, OAK, Rams, Ravens, WASH, NO, PITT, broncos, Texans, panthers, vikings, colts

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                              • coach422001
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 1492

                                #150
                                Re: A Definitive Guide to CPU-CPU, Play the Moment, and Super Sim

                                Originally posted by tommycoa
                                You’ve got to use the usb cable that came with xbox works best, and you also need something to pin down one of the joysticks. Just got the game and figured out some sliders. Game’s playing really well in cfm with a single team. Having a great time. Rented the game from redbox to test the sliders I consulted on without the game. People was loving them so i went and re-rented the game again. It’s good.

                                Have any problems with keeping the controller connected or sliders, shoot me a pm.
                                When you say 'one of the joysticks' are you saying you need 2 or did you mean to pin down the joystick. I'm sure many are trying to play in supersim slow mode to watch CPU v CPU without the second stick. Clarify what needs to be pinned down? Thanks for the info.

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