I cannot get pressure

[rich8682]

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That's probably more pressure than real life man. I posted some statistics already.

I don't mean a breakthrough. I mean the qb didn't have to move because he had 7 feet of space. That doesn't happen very often in real life. Pockets shrink, even without a breakthrough. So a guy like Watt may not get through, but he'll push his guy closer to the qb and shrink the pocket.

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[Dwaresacksqb]

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I'm also not saying sliders can't help with animations and pocket and what not. I'm just saying that if you don't get that nice jump off the line and win that first move. Good luck getting off your block. It's like that in real life.

A lot of people were complaining about lineman being "sticky". But those big boys upfront in real life are more than sticky. There's a reason the best D lineman in the game have a great jump off the line. There's a reason d lineman try to time the snap count. They NEED all the help they can get. Once those Mammoths get their paws inside you, you are pretty much finished unless the coverage is great.

[SageInfinite]

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A lot of people were complaining about lineman being "sticky". But those big boys upfront in real life are more than sticky. There's a reason the best D lineman in the game have a great jump off the line. There's a reason d lineman try to time the snap count. They NEED all the help they can get. Once those Mammoths get their paws inside you, you are pretty much finished unless the coverage is great.

The reason it feels sticky for me is they removed the ability to move while still engaged. The line play has taken a big step back for me because of that. It's bad enough the win or lose animations are so drastic, but now if you lose you're pretty much powerless and have to rely on your AI teammates to get pressure, and they aren't always the brightest. I just don't understand why they'd remove this. I thought they'd expand it to the AI, but they removed it totally.....

[Sgexpat]

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Yea I'm playing on All-Pro and as the Rams I was seeing pressure probably around that 30% of the time mentioned earlier. Haven't changed one gameplay slider yet. Only thing I changed was moving up an auto sub in slider.


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The problem isn't that you can't get pressure but that you can't get much pressure with 4 man rushes.

[redsox4evur]

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The problem isn't that you can't get pressure but that you can't get much pressure with 4 man rushes.

Yea I'm getting pressure with a 4 man pass rush.


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[Bushido]

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I didn't go through each reply in this thread, just the OP...

I played my first CFM game with the LA RAMS on default All-Pro/Default sliders and sacked Eli Manning 9 times. Aaron Donald had 4.5 sacks.

The Rams have arguably the best DL in the NFL, so....

[rich8682]

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I didn't go through each reply in this thread, just the OP...

I played my first CFM game with the LA RAMS on default All-Pro/Default sliders and sacked Eli Manning 9 times. Aaron Donald had 4.5 sacks.

The Rams have arguably the best DL in the NFL, so....

That's all pro. All Madden is a hell of a lot harder. I had to drop pass block to 15 to consistently get the pocket to shrink, and not see the QB just sit back and have 6-7 seconds to throw 70% of the time.

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[SolidSquid]

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I cannot get USER pressure. That is my biggest issue. Are pass rush moves different this year? Can I still determine which side I try to shed to using the LS?


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[Smallville102001]

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I have cpu pass block on 15, a 4 man rush almost never gets pressure, blitzes will sometimes. CPU QB's have all day to throw. Do I just suck at pass rushing? I'm on All Madden btw.

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I do think part of it is playing on All madden no sport game plays even close to realistic if you play on the hardest difficulty. With that said though on All pro last year this was a issue. I could get sacks if I lowered the CPU pass blocking enough last year but even then the over all pressure was not consistent enough. Its like either the QB has like a hour to make the pass or no one blocks at all on a play. Line play and pass rush is the worst part of the games gameplay and I was hoping it would get improved like WR/DB interactions did last year but it didn't. On 3 games so far on All pro pass blocking at default all pro I have gotten like 4 sacks and I have only gotten pressure like another 4-5 times. So really I have only gotten pressure on the CPU QB like 9 times in 3 games and like 2 of those where just because the CPU held onto the ball to long.

[Smallville102001]

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What is getting on my nerves is when neither a power move nor a finesse move seems to do anything. Power move? Nothing. Okay fine, finesse move then? *spins in place*. By this time three or four seconds has passed and the play is over, my guy still dancing with his man. This happens 80% of the time.

I think you are being kind. Its more like 90-95% of the time.

[Americas Team]

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Can't get any pressure on All Madden Qb's have 5, 6, 7, 8 secs sometime longer in the pocket and thats with pass blocking slider down to 35, guess I have to turn it down more.

I don't care if I don't get a sack I just want to get a push, make the Qb uncomfortable, this is by far the worse area in game play and the biggest eye sore, because when offensive linemen do get beat, they don't even give any effort to continue to protect their Qb, they just stay stuck in that basic stance no matter what, they can't even extend their arms or turn their hips

[ATLBrayden]

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On All-Pro I get plenty of pressure but on All-Madden I may as well have cardboard cut-outs of pass rushers out there. My front 7 is:

Hightower, Collins, Mack
Sheard, Malcom Brown, Knighton, Long

I commonly blitz Hightower and Mack, I even sub those two in at DE in the dime formation, yet I never get any sacks. The QB talks a walk down to the local gas station, grabs some drinks, takes a nap, then returns to the pocket and throws the ball. I'm at week 9 now in the CFM and Mack has two sacks on the season, both coming from a single game.

[roadman]

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The game is tested on all pro between 5 to 8 minute quarters.

I'm not sure if that helps.

I'm getting plenty of pressure with Clay Matthews(usering from the outside). I don't know if this helps, but I went into Skill Trainer before jumping in with cold feet into Play Now games.

I didn't even know about the RT button on xbox1.

[ajra21]

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if i don't beat the OL guy on first move, then the chances of getting passed him are pretty much zero. even then, the QB has probably dropped back so far that you can't reach him. just had 29 sacks in my first CFM season which is around 12-15 lower than i usually get.

[wordtobigbird]

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The game is tested on all pro between 5 to 8 minute quarters.

I'm not sure if that helps.

I'm getting plenty of pressure with Clay Matthews(usering from the outside). I don't know if this helps, but I went into Skill Trainer before jumping in with cold feet into Play Now games.

I didn't even know about the RT button on xbox1.

I think this is a big part of it. The mechanic is definitely timing based, but I can literally hear people on streams 'mashing' buttons trying to get free on pass rush. I suck at it so I don't do manually rush often but the skills trainer is a must for all aspects of the game.

I feel like I have to get better at ballcarrier moves, pass rush, and the advanced pass off/def mechanics before I start criticizing too harshly. For example, when I drop a pass, I think to myself, did I use possession catch before I think the game is unbalanced and I need to change a slider.

Not to say pass rush doesn't need improvements of course. If you watch SimFball's videos he says that Clint told him their are more (newer, better looking) animations that happen when the user is NOT controlling the pass rusher that are pretty ferocious so it's definitely not balanced between user controller and CPU pass rush in that sense.