I cannot get pressure

[roadman]

Re: I cannot get pressure

And that is fine, nothing wrong with hoping a video game can get close to stats you want.

In my football video gaming world, if Matthews and Peppers avg close to their yearly sack stats, which they are now, I'm a happy video gamer.

I've tweeted the developers about the sense pressure issue, so, let's just see wait and see what their response is.

[mcavner]

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I hate to be 'that guy' but I just played a game in coach mode and the QB who was oblivious was throwing it away under pressure and the one who was ideal was the guy who was taking the sacks in the pocket...

Smallest of sample sizes - and a single game to base the anecdote on... but could that trait be reversed?

In my desperation for sacks, could making every QB I face 'oblivious' been making it even harder for myself?

Wouldn't be the first time EA has had a 'slider' in reverse.

[MalikBrock203]

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Defense in this game is awful period. What's the point of block shedding when they just get stonewalled EveryTime?


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[xCoachDx]

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We would have more sacks if EA hadn't gotten rid of the DL moves so that I have to now just hit a button and watch my player spin back and forth into his blocker.

But don't worry, I can see it now.._ Madden 18: "All New" Rip and Swim mechanics

[mcavner]

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I hate to be 'that guy' but I just played a game in coach mode and the QB who was oblivious was throwing it away under pressure and the one who was ideal was the guy who was taking the sacks in the pocket...

Smallest of sample sizes - and a single game to base the anecdote on... but could that trait be reversed?

In my desperation for sacks, could making every QB I face 'oblivious' been making it even harder for myself?

Wouldn't be the first time EA has had a 'slider' in reverse.

I've been testing this in Coach Mode and I hope some others will, too. Right now I'm of the opinion that ideal is worse than oblivious.

Also, this game reacts like the old NCAA series where if your D Line gets too good of a jump the QB reacts instantly by throwing it away. So yeah, just leave the pass protection at default and you have a better chance of the QB holding on to the ball.

[highmiles100]

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Defense in this game is awful period. What's the point of block shedding when they just get stonewalled EveryTime?


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I disagree 100% I think this has been the defense in Madden ever....

[Hengist]

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I just wanted to post those statistics to show just how rare it is for a D lineman even as great as Watt to generate pressure. Again 1004 plays and only 26 qb hurries along with his sacks. I can guarantee that if a lot of people on here did nothing but user Watt and lose their battle that often, they would claim EA needs to fix this or mess with sliders. I'm far from thinking the line play is perfect but I aLao feel people have a misconseption about how often a qb gets pressured.

Without knowing how many of those 1004 snaps were runs, this info reveals very little.

[reverend_heat]

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Yup, nothing wrong with line play at all

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[reyes the roof]

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Yup, nothing wrong with line play at all

I think I might go in to the traits and remove the spin move from all my pass rushers to see if that helps, because I get what you posted in that video happening to me a lot

[mcavner]

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I think I might go in to the traits and remove the spin move from all my pass rushers to see if that helps, because I get what you posted in that video happening to me a lot

Yeah, I was thinking of doing the same thing. Wondering if its better just to swim and bull this iteration.

[Spitfirex007]

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This is my biggest complaint about this game. I'm not using the best D. Line but Def not the worst either. (Tampa) I have the pass block slides at 5. And still I'm lucky to get pressure once every 10 plays or so. Outside that I'm stonewall. And when I do manager to get pressure, the qb just throws it out of bounds. In the pocket, out of the pocket. Doesn't matter. This has been a problem for years. But it's by far worse this year. Ea just doesn't care I guess

[ggsimmonds]

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We would have more sacks if EA hadn't gotten rid of the DL moves so that I have to now just hit a button and watch my player spin back and forth into his blocker.

But don't worry, I can see it now.._ Madden 18: "All New" Rip and Swim mechanics

The moves are still in there. I frequently get insta-pressure with Suggs by using his power moves, and on the other side Doom uses his finesse moves to get quick pressure also when I user him. They are not as good when I allow the AI to control them, yet paradoxically they tend to get more sacks. Seems like when you user the DL and get pressure the QB gets rid of it immediately, yet control someone in the secondary and watch the coverage sacks pile up.

Anyway, in case anyone doesn't realize this, don't just tap the power/finesse move button. press the same way you throw a bullet pass while holding a direction. I have Suggs throw guys to the side and I developed a nasty inside spin with Doom this way. The timing is key, though I don't know how to explain it.

And more often than not, if your first move fails the second and third will also. I like to disengage and manually stunt when my first move fails, though post patch with QBs scrambling now that has burned me

[The 24th Letter]

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Anyway, in case anyone doesn't realize this, don't just tap the power/finesse move button. press the same way you throw a bullet pass while holding a direction. I have Suggs throw guys to the side and I developed a nasty inside spin with Doom this way. The timing is key, though I don't know how to explain it.

I didnt know this. If thats the case it will save my finger some pain from mashing the button. Cant wait to try it, lol

I've actually been able to get a lot of user sacks with Kony Ealy...had 4 with him alone in my last H2H match....

One piece of advice I would also give is if you get stone walled one way, immediately throw the stick and the other direction while hitting the swim button...you will sometimes do a quick combination and break free.

All this said, the pressure game in general could still use a boost.

[Sgexpat]

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I think I might go in to the traits and remove the spin move from all my pass rushers to see if that helps, because I get what you posted in that video happening to me a lot

This occurred to me as well. Let me know if it works.

[raidertiger]

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The DL play is actually the worst of any football game past the year 2000. Zero actual skill or awareness apart from pressing a button. No control over what move you want to do. Even the PS2 maddens you could swim move left or right, but here it's all RNG.