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  • ODogg
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    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #46
    Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

    Originally posted by BadAssHskr
    what's the lifespan of a gaming engine? how long has the current engine been with Madden, and with it, has it been maxed out, like have the programmers advanced it as far as it can go?

    aren't we due for a new xbox in the pretty near future? how will a change in console effect the direction of madden, the way they are coding for ps4/xbone vs. how they will have to code for a new generation?

    i mean it could be said that madden took a franchise hit in M17 because they new Frostbite was on the plate, so now when they drop M18, then there is a console generation change, does this have the potential for years of setback?
    The new Xbox Scorpio isn't going to have a specific Madden written for it unfortunately. Scorpio and PS4 Pro will be the top consoles for several years at least and that means this change to Frostbite *IS* the new engine for a good long while.
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    • BadAssHskr
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      • Jun 2003
      • 3540

      #47
      Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

      Originally posted by ODogg
      The new Xbox Scorpio isn't going to have a specific Madden written for it unfortunately. Scorpio and PS4 Pro will be the top consoles for several years at least and that means this change to Frostbite *IS* the new engine for a good long while.
      I guess what i didn't realize was playstation wasn't advancing their console. I guess i don't know much about Scorpio, but i would have otherwise thought it would be like transitioning from xbox to xbox one.
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      • Retropyro
        Pro
        • Jul 2010
        • 796

        #48
        Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

        Originally posted by KennyJ1976
        Honestly, I believe the Frostbite Engine is all hype. I play FIFA on a regular basis and besides the better lighting, and slightly better physics, I really don't see much of a difference between FIFA 17 and FIFA 14. So I'm not expecting a significant jump from Madden 17 to Madden 18.
        I agree. Honestly it feels like in FIFA 17 it's a placebo affect. I honestly don't see that much difference between FIFA 16 & 17. It's "shiny'er" to be sure. But that's it.
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        • Hooe
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          • Aug 2002
          • 21555

          #49
          Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

          Originally posted by BadAssHskr
          what's the lifespan of a gaming engine? how long has the current engine been with Madden, and with it, has it been maxed out, like have the programmers advanced it as far as it can go?
          It's not a sports game, but the first-person shooter Titanfall 2 by Respawn was recently released running on a (admittedly very very very heavily modified) fork of Source engine. You may better remember Source engine as the engine which powered Half-Life 2, which released in 2004.

          Game engines can stick around for a very long time and, if the appropriate care is taken, be adapted to new and more powerful hardware without too much pain.

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          • Mattanite
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            • Sep 2015
            • 1716

            #50
            Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

            The transition to a new engine is a more of a reason this won't be a pre-order or day 1 purchase for me. The year to year hype engine and legacy problems of Madden has made me sceptical enough that something like this needs a "wait and see" approach before purchasing.


            Look at what happened when they went from M12 Franchise to M13 CFM, it took years to get right (I understand that was a format not an engine, but still... sceptically sceptic) or the fact that Madden has needed multiple patches and patches-for-patches months after release for the last few editions.


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            • roadman
              *ll St*r
              • Aug 2003
              • 26339

              #51
              Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

              Originally posted by Geodude
              The transition to a new engine is a more of a reason this won't be a pre-order or day 1 purchase for me. The year to year hype engine and legacy problems of Madden has made me sceptical enough that something like this needs a "wait and see" approach before purchasing.


              Look at what happened when they went from M12 Franchise to M13 CFM, it took years to get right (I understand that was a format not an engine, but still... sceptically sceptic) or the fact that Madden has needed multiple patches and patches-for-patches months after release for the last few editions.


              If it doesn't sound promising, NBA 2k18 it will be
              Not sure I quite understand the multiple patch angle when the game you mentioned has just as much or more title updates vs Madden. There isn't a game that I don't own in this era that doesn't have patch updates????

              Here's hoping the frostbite engine adds a ummph to Madden in the near future. There is so many conflicting opinions, I'll judge it when I see it.

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              • baconbits11
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                • Oct 2014
                • 2619

                #52
                Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

                Originally posted by dmslapped
                Can't wait for a helmet to explode like a battlefield building.
                Kidding obviously, but wouldn't it be cool if the jerseys and field got a bit torn up

                I'd like to see helmets pop off again on occasion like the good ol' days...

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                • timhere1970
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                  • Sep 2013
                  • 1810

                  #53
                  Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

                  Originally posted by baconbits11
                  I'd like to see helmets pop off again on occasion like the good ol' days...
                  If it's in the game ......

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                  • roadman
                    *ll St*r
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 26339

                    #54
                    Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

                    Originally posted by timhere1970
                    If it's in the game ......
                    So says the nfl, not happening.

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                    • bxphenom7
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 593

                      #55
                      Originally posted by carnalnirvana
                      new engine same AI....

                      same issues that look prettier
                      Yeah, that's what I'm expecting.

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                      • Birdman18
                        Flyin' High
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 59

                        #56
                        Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

                        You'll probably still have similar issues because there's a good chance that the base C++ code in current Madden will be imported over


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                        • issaknife
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                          • Dec 2016
                          • 77

                          #57
                          Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

                          Originally posted by baconbits11
                          I'd like to see helmets pop off again on occasion like the good ol' days...
                          nfl won't allow it

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                          • lefty 1216
                            Just started!
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 2

                            #58
                            Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

                            For years I heard EA saying that they didn’t have enough memory to fix the NFL team helmets for pro bowl players. Now that they switch to the frostbite engine they have no more excuses. Fix the pro bowl players helmets and give them the helmets of the teams that they represent.

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                            • DocHolliday
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                              • Oct 2002
                              • 4698

                              #59
                              Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

                              After seeing the changes that Frostbite brought to ME:A WITH a new generation of hardware, I'm not really holding out hope for a massive jump.
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                              • BlackBetty15
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                                • Sep 2010
                                • 1548

                                #60
                                Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

                                I wanna see cfm play as competitive as play now mode. Been a huge problem for years and it's plain asinine. Need better animations, lighting, engagements between players, and of course, would love better immersion pregame and halftime, maybe some gamebreaks during.
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