Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

[SteelD34KC]

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Wow, u know what? If they put a cool trajectory arc in or something? Like the kicking arc. If done well, it might be something so u can see the arc in the air as opposed to a reticule on the ground. I think I would prefer an arc. But, in overall slightly troubled, as I don't want a goofy arc or a reticle on my field! Lol. But, yeah, I wonder if they could do more an arc. No matter how I think of how they might do this, I still have concerns to the timing of the whole thing. If u have to 'move' the reticule during the throw? Like, u press X and hold it down for a bullet, right when u press the button, an arc comes out, u aim the arc, and when the throw motion is complete, the bullet is fired wherever u happened to place it. Or reticule, of course, same thing. But, overall, it's that timing that I hope isn't too difficult to use.


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They would have to add in a freeze time or something where your awareness and accuracy gives you a certain amount of time to aim.

Because how then would you EVER throw with a mobile QB? Running one way, throw the other, then have to juggle buttons to try to do it all at once.

Seems crazy to me.

[DeuceDouglas]

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They would have to add in a freeze time or something where your awareness and accuracy gives you a certain amount of time to aim.

Because how then would you EVER throw with a mobile QB? Running one way, throw the other, then have to juggle buttons to try to do it all at once.

Seems crazy to me.

That's what makes a reticle so difficult. Being in control of the QB you have to:

• Move your QB
• Determine who to throw to and where to throw it
• Determine velocity of throw

With an NFL Fever or just general reticle style system where you can truly throw the ball anywhere on the field it's likely going to make it hard as all hell to be able to run around and throw good passes. And now that I think about it that is probably exactly what Rex was alluding to with his "next year everyone will live and die by their reads. Mark my words..." comment. It's going to severely limit the effectiveness of that sandlot style, run around until someones open which is great and will also have a HUGE impact on the Competitive side where that type of play is very prevalent. It'd also be significantly harder to just go from throwing a slant or a short route to chucking it deep.

I do think it'll end up being some kind of reticle and I really hope things are untethered but I'm not getting my hopes up for that yet because it might be too much for people to handle. It has potential to be an absolute game changer though.

[ODogg]

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Yeah, they could add it. No one said it'd be easy though. And if it's an optional thing then have at it. Use it if you like or don't use it if you don't want to. People keep asking for more control and things to fundamentally change how the game is played, well to do so is going to require some real work on the part of the user to relearn some things if so.

I recall in the NCAA game where they used the targeting system it was quite difficult to use but I worked at it and when it worked it was incredibly liberating to use.

If memory serves the way it worked was you could either pass like normal or you could click-in the right stick to put a target on the field. Once that target appeared on the field the right stick would move it around. Then you pressed the x-button again to throw to that spot. And if you hit the button and pushed it in it was a bullet pass but if you lightly tapped it was a lob.

It was much more difficult to do when running with your QB but if you think about it, throwing on the run should be harder.

Again, I don't see what is so insane about bringing this back. Yes, it'd be much more difficult. Yes, some people, no most people, would probably hate it. But it would greatly expand the game for those who desired to really learn it and it would most certainly be a real game changer.

My guess too is that people who are good on the sticks would love it.

[Greenblood60]

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I don't know why you guys are so adamant EA cannot put a specific target on the field and have your QB throw to that spot. They did it back on the original Playstation for college football.

Am I the only one who remembers this? I think it was 1998 or 1999 but it was the original Playstation I recall, not PS2.

I watched some game-play of NCAA 99 and I still can't figure out how the mechanic worked. Don't get me wrong; I'm certainly am intrigued, but I have no idea how the user chose to throw to one spot versus another.

[montesixpac]

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However the target passing works I just hope that it can be done quickly without adding a pause or slowing down of the gameplay. I'd like to see something fairly simple like hitting the button that corresponds with the receivers icon and then it gives you a general location close to that receiver. Then you use the right thumb stick to move that during the qb's throwing motion and wherever you are aiming when his motion is complete is the general direction which of course can also be affected by a qb's accuracy and how he is throwing it (in the pocket with set feet, falling back, on the move, etc.)

I'm excited for this as often I'd like to do something like simply throw the ball at my receivers feet to keep a safe pass but still give him the opportunity to make a play on the ball. So often I have tried using the directional passing like this but it often goes where I didn't want it and turns into a dangerous pass (although you can have arid passes I feel like it is just the lack of actual control over where I am throwing the ball).

[jfsolo]

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I don't know why you guys are so adamant EA cannot put a specific target on the field and have your QB throw to that spot. They did it back on the original Playstation for college football.

Am I the only one who remembers this? I think it was 1998 or 1999 but it was the original Playstation I recall, not PS2.

I watched some game-play of NCAA 99 and I still can't figure out how the mechanic worked. Don't get me wrong; I'm certainly am intrigued, but I have no idea how the user chose to throw to one spot versus another.

The User chose the receiver and the type of pass, then the game showed you where the ball was actually going to land. The User was't really choosing to throw to that exact spot, just to that receiver in that general vicinity. I'm expecting this to be much more involved than that was.

[ODogg]

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The User chose the receiver and the type of pass, then the game showed you where the ball was actually going to land. The User was't really choosing to throw to that exact spot, just to that receiver in that general vicinity. I'm expecting this to be much more involved than that was.

In NCAA after you clicked in the right stick you actually moved the reticule on the field; it didn't just show you where it was going to land. I specifically remember because the first time I tried it I was trying to throw a long bomb and the reticule moved so fast I overthrew the guy by about 30 yards.

[SolidSquid]

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I could see it end up being something like Trigger+Receiver Icon+Thumbstick with different directions correlating to different "targets" (i.e. High and away, low and behind, low and in front, etc.) and having the triggers be tied to either a touch or bullet pass. Basically a mechanic very similar to the ball-carrier moves implemented last year and similar, but expanded, version to what I believe is already in place. The description stating that you're no longer throw at receivers and you can throw it anywhere on the field obviously contradicts that kind of mechanic though. But it's hard for me to envision them implementing any kind of difficult mechanic or something with a steep learning curve, especially if it's the default for online. Hard to say though, definitely the most interested in seeing this in action.

This makes sense. It's basically the precision modifier applied to the passing game. Would be surprised if this isn't exactly what it is

[SolidSquid]

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I don't know why you guys are so adamant EA cannot put a specific target on the field and have your QB throw to that spot. They did it back on the original Playstation for college football.

Am I the only one who remembers this? I think it was 1998 or 1999 but it was the original Playstation I recall, not PS2.

I see no reason why they wouldn't, as long as they give us the option to hide it.

[Americas Team]

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My guess is that the target passing is going to work similar to how the passing is now but instead of the ball being tethered to the receiver (where basically thumb stick pressure doesn't matter) you will be able to throw it to a spot on the field using the left thumb stick to aim at a spot on the field.

[BreakingBad2013]

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This makes sense. It's basically the precision modifier applied to the passing game. Would be surprised if this isn't exactly what it is

That would still just be using buttons not throwing to a "spot" but throwing tova WR. I doubt that's the mechanic. It's going to be something new and fresh and hopefully they've tested it with the gamechangers

[ParaAut]

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Maybe someone can describe the free passing mechanic in FIFA17? I just played it twice and I'm not skilled enough to really judge the mechanic.

But in general you can have the passing help active and just press the button for the pass recipient, works in general in the same way as it is in Madden now. But you can also disable the passing help and just use free passing, so you can really lead the recipient in a certain area of the field. I could imagine Madden will use a very similar system as it is the same Frostbite engine.

Maybe someone more skilled in FIFA can describe the functionality and advantages/disadvantages better than me.

[OhMrHanky]

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Maybe someone can describe the free passing mechanic in FIFA17? I just played it twice and I'm not skilled enough to really judge the mechanic.

But in general you can have the passing help active and just press the button for the pass recipient, works in general in the same way as it is in Madden now. But you can also disable the passing help and just use free passing, so you can really lead the recipient in a certain area of the field. I could imagine Madden will use a very similar system as it is the same Frostbite engine.

Maybe someone more skilled in FIFA can describe the functionality and advantages/disadvantages better than me.

I think it's hard to equate FIFA passing a soccer ball on the ground to passing a football in the air. Although, u also have lob passes in soccer. But, in general, I'd say it's too different. In FIFA, u hold down the button a certain length of time and it goes a certain distance. With totally free controls set, where u aim is where it goes and there is no reticle whatsoever. And, actually, imo, it kinda sux. Lol. The ball NEVER goes where I think I'm aiming it, so I always use default passing. U know, it would be interesting if madden did use a FIFA lob pass, though. Which, I don't think they would. But, what if, as the QB, u were just a normal FIFA player? Lol. And, when u decide to pass, u have to aim the stick where u want it and press and hold the button for a range of distances? Lol. Don't get me wrong, I know this couldn't completely work in football. But, maybe u would now have a 'bullet' button A and a 'lob' button X. The motion of the QB running in any direction transitioning into aiming a throw would be a tough spot, for sure. But u mentioning FIFA has sparked some extra thoughts as to how passing could be, actually. The biggest issue being a soccer player is constantly 'free' to roam whereas a QB is looking downfield and has a pass rush, so again, the motion of the QB transitioning to throwing would be difficult. But, actually, if they found a way to tame that, I wouldn't mind that system. In FIFA, you aim a lob pass, for example, to a general spot, with no reticule, u just 'know' where you're aiming, and the X is lob and the amount of power (distance) is how long u hold the button. Wow, yeah, the more I think about it, I wouldn't mind this type of system at all. Lol. And, it would absolutely untether the ball, that's for sure. [emoji458][emoji41]


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[FraserOliver17]

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I think it's hard to equate FIFA passing a soccer ball on the ground to passing a football in the air. Although, u also have lob passes in soccer. But, in general, I'd say it's too different. In FIFA, u hold down the button a certain length of time and it goes a certain distance. With totally free controls set, where u aim is where it goes and there is no reticle whatsoever. And, actually, imo, it kinda sux. Lol. The ball NEVER goes where I think I'm aiming it, so I always use default passing. U know, it would be interesting if madden did use a FIFA lob pass, though. Which, I don't think they would. But, what if, as the QB, u were just a normal FIFA player? Lol. And, when u decide to pass, u have to aim the stick where u want it and press and hold the button for a range of distances? Lol. Don't get me wrong, I know this couldn't completely work in football. But, maybe u would now have a 'bullet' button A and a 'lob' button X. The motion of the QB running in any direction transitioning into aiming a throw would be a tough spot, for sure. But u mentioning FIFA has sparked some extra thoughts as to how passing could be, actually. The biggest issue being a soccer player is constantly 'free' to roam whereas a QB is looking downfield and has a pass rush, so again, the motion of the QB transitioning to throwing would be difficult. But, actually, if they found a way to tame that, I wouldn't mind that system. In FIFA, you aim a lob pass, for example, to a general spot, with no reticule, u just 'know' where you're aiming, and the X is lob and the amount of power (distance) is how long u hold the button. Wow, yeah, the more I think about it, I wouldn't mind this type of system at all. Lol. And, it would absolutely untether the ball, that's for sure. [emoji458][emoji41]


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In FIFA you have the pass button(X/A). But also the mechanic for a drilled pass by pressing R1, which would be your bullet pass equivalent. You also have lob pass button ([]/B) and R1 drilled lofted pass. The passing works that the ball goes the direction the analog button faces on contact with the ball. So if, for example, you were rolling out with QB and wanted to throw. The direction of the pass would be determined at the point of release, or at the moment the QB starts his motion. If that is the idea then I quite like that. Means stats and stick skills are paramount

[Godgers12]

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I think it's hard to equate FIFA passing a soccer ball on the ground to passing a football in the air. Although, u also have lob passes in soccer. But, in general, I'd say it's too different. In FIFA, u hold down the button a certain length of time and it goes a certain distance. With totally free controls set, where u aim is where it goes and there is no reticle whatsoever. And, actually, imo, it kinda sux. Lol. The ball NEVER goes where I think I'm aiming it, so I always use default passing. U know, it would be interesting if madden did use a FIFA lob pass, though. Which, I don't think they would. But, what if, as the QB, u were just a normal FIFA player? Lol. And, when u decide to pass, u have to aim the stick where u want it and press and hold the button for a range of distances? Lol. Don't get me wrong, I know this couldn't completely work in football. But, maybe u would now have a 'bullet' button A and a 'lob' button X. The motion of the QB running in any direction transitioning into aiming a throw would be a tough spot, for sure. But u mentioning FIFA has sparked some extra thoughts as to how passing could be, actually. The biggest issue being a soccer player is constantly 'free' to roam whereas a QB is looking downfield and has a pass rush, so again, the motion of the QB transitioning to throwing would be difficult. But, actually, if they found a way to tame that, I wouldn't mind that system. In FIFA, you aim a lob pass, for example, to a general spot, with no reticule, u just 'know' where you're aiming, and the X is lob and the amount of power (distance) is how long u hold the button. Wow, yeah, the more I think about it, I wouldn't mind this type of system at all. Lol. And, it would absolutely untether the ball, that's for sure. [emoji458][emoji41]


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Ummmmthat makes my head hurt just thinking about it. I hope this new system uses both icon and directional passing. The WR icon chooses a location and the stick is used to place the ball in said location within like a 10-15 yard radius, and the QB's accuracy decides the margin of error. I would hate to be throwing a screen and have the ball land 30 yards out of bounds and 50 yards downfield. I also hope this will be an option, and we can select 'Classic passing' or 'Total control' passing. But knowing EA they will force this on us like everything else they add.