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  • khaliib
    MVP
    • Jan 2005
    • 2878

    #256
    Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

    They already do exist in the current game.

    - Throw Acc ratings = Radius of ball from target (basically stick Sensitivity for User)

    - Spec Catch = Player Catch radius
    - AWR of WR/Def player on Pass = how fast they'll adjust route while ball is in the air.

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    • scoobyskyline3
      Rookie
      • Jan 2011
      • 377

      #257
      Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

      Not to be a negative nancy but as much as we have wanted coverage assignments, but man coverage is flawed and has been for a few years, your best CBs cant cover basic wide receivers on basically any routes aside from hitches and go's. If you decided you wanted to go man, you basically were forced to pair it with some type of zone or prepare to be exploited.

      If man coverage gets alot better and press coverage wasnt a random dice roll that will easily result in a beat press animation worth a thousand touchdowns then i will be thrilled about this addition. If not, i will just continue looking forward to the cfm blogs

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      • TMJOHNS18
        MVP
        • May 2011
        • 2586

        #258
        Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

        Originally posted by khaliib
        They already do exist in the current game.

        - Throw Acc ratings = Radius of ball from target (basically stick Sensitivity for User)

        - Spec Catch = Player Catch radius
        - AWR of WR/Def player on Pass = how fast they'll adjust route while ball is in the air.

        Problem is that it really isn't done well. As long as WRs and DBs can adjust to the ball blindly the system will be useless.


        What I'd hope for is when using the SIM settings we'd get more rating-dependent throws vs stick input throws. I want the QB to determine the throw location, not me.

        Two ways to change this. Either remove directional passing, or change the stick to location passing.

        Up is highpoint. Down is knee ish level. Inside to lead. Outside back shoulder. Basically choose where on the WR body to aim and then it's up to the QB to execute the throw and WR to adjsust.

        Basically you are aiding in the AI 'choosing' the right throw without influencing it too much. At the core I want QB ratings to drive their performance.

        We've all been in leagues where the Pats guy is posting an 42-28 td/int with Brady while the Bears guy goes 35-3 with some 69ovr from FA. Because of the user. Let ratings make brady throw more incompletes due to recognizing a bad decision.

        Other positions make good/bad plays sans our direct input, why cant QBs?

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        • mbah123
          Rookie
          • Oct 2013
          • 19

          #259
          Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
          That is wonderful news for us Dolphin fans.

          Out for the year. #TheMaddenCurse


          Lol no no no


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          • adembroski
            49ers
            • Jul 2002
            • 5825

            #260
            Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

            Originally posted by khaliib
            They already do exist in the current game.

            - Throw Acc ratings = Radius of ball from target (basically stick Sensitivity for User)

            - Spec Catch = Player Catch radius
            - AWR of WR/Def player on Pass = how fast they'll adjust route while ball is in the air.
            Instead of radius from the target, it should be deviation from ideal launch point. This will organically translate inaccuracy at longer range.

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            • GameBreaker35
              Rookie
              • May 2012
              • 382

              #261
              Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

              At the end of a MUT squads video I found on YouTube https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EZpTaJAYgvc, Rex Dickson revealed a little more about "target passing" with the host and what it means to gameplay across all modes. He explicitly says that it is a difficult in game mechanic to learn, and that it is a reticle of where to put the ball.

              I'm surprised on that one. Seems like it would be too clunky to ever utilize given the chaos of post-snap decision making.
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              • Americas Team
                MVP
                • Jun 2016
                • 1282

                #262
                Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                Originally posted by GameBreaker35
                At the end of a MUT squads video I found on YouTube https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EZpTaJAYgvc, Rex Dickson revealed a little more about "target passing" with the host and what it means to gameplay across all modes. He explicitly says that it is a difficult in game mechanic to learn, and that it is a reticle of where to put the ball.

                I'm surprised on that one. Seems like it would be too clunky to ever utilize given the chaos of post-snap decision making.
                Not if the rectile is controlled with the left stick which we already use to lead passes. I think the difference will be that now its more pressure sensitive which will take time to get use too. I just hope the rectile isn't distracting or have the option to remove it.
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                • ODogg
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 37953

                  #263
                  Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                  Originally posted by GameBreaker35
                  At the end of a MUT squads video I found on YouTube https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EZpTaJAYgvc, Rex Dickson revealed a little more about "target passing" with the host and what it means to gameplay across all modes. He explicitly says that it is a difficult in game mechanic to learn, and that it is a reticle of where to put the ball.

                  I'm surprised on that one. Seems like it would be too clunky to ever utilize given the chaos of post-snap decision making.


                  I told you go guys it would be a reticule!!


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                  • Americas Team
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 1282

                    #264
                    Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                    Originally posted by ODogg
                    I told you go guys it would be a reticule!!


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                    I wonder if they are going to be different sizes depending on the Qb? Better Qb's will have bigger retiles, and those not as good will have smaller.

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                    • R1zzo23
                      Cupcake Coach
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 5694

                      #265
                      Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                      Originally posted by ODogg
                      I told you go guys it would be a reticule!!
                      I will say that you have been on that since Day 1. [emoji1433][emoji1433][emoji1433]



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                      • bad_philanthropy
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 12167

                        #266
                        Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                        I wonder if the reticle will be similar the one implemented in FIFA 17 for corners and long free kicks. The reticle in FIFA 17is kind of sensitive and twitchy, and springs back to a point of origin if you let off the LS. It's easier to maneuver with players who have higher long pass and fk skills.

                        I'm guessing LS will control QB movement, and the RS will control the reticle, with one of the triggers used to release (and pass power determined by pressure on the trigger). Would be cool if right handed QB's used the right trigger and the left for lefties.

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                        • XtremeDunkz
                          CNFL Commissioner
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3414

                          #267
                          Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                          As long as the reticle is still governed by ratings. If it automatically places the ball there regardless of QB this will be a disaster.
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                          • marshallfever
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 2738

                            #268
                            Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                            Originally posted by GameBreaker35
                            At the end of a MUT squads video I found on YouTube https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EZpTaJAYgvc, Rex Dickson revealed a little more about "target passing" with the host and what it means to gameplay across all modes. He explicitly says that it is a difficult in game mechanic to learn, and that it is a reticle of where to put the ball.

                            I'm surprised on that one. Seems like it would be too clunky to ever utilize given the chaos of post-snap decision making.
                            Please let this be true, I miss NFL Fever's Read N Lead passing and this sounds exactly like it. It wasn't perfect then, but you could see the potential. If Ea is thinking the same thing but more refined and more accurate to the quarterback (size of reticle and accuracy affected by the QB's stats) this might be great. I was already down for 18 since i skipper 17, but now I'm excited.

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                            • 4thQtrStre5S
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 3051

                              #269
                              Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                              Originally posted by GameBreaker35
                              At the end of a MUT squads video I found on YouTube https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EZpTaJAYgvc, Rex Dickson revealed a little more about "target passing" with the host and what it means to gameplay across all modes. He explicitly says that it is a difficult in game mechanic to learn, and that it is a reticle of where to put the ball.

                              I'm surprised on that one. Seems like it would be too clunky to ever utilize given the chaos of post-snap decision making.
                              I also noticed in the same video there was mention of users in MUT Squads being able to chuck inside and outside on receivers; I hope I am correct in assuming that this will be available across all modes so we can now dictate whether we want all or some DB's to chuck and which direction..

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                              • Americas Team
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2016
                                • 1282

                                #270
                                Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                                Originally posted by 4thQtrStre5S
                                I also noticed in the same video there was mention of users in MUT Squads being able to chuck inside and outside on receivers; I hope I am correct in assuming that this will be available across all modes so we can now dictate whether we want all or some DB's to chuck and which direction..
                                And hopefully we can finally chuck the tightend.
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