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  • ODogg
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    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #301
    Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

    Really stupid to put the reticule control on the left stick rather than the right IMO
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    • SolidSquid
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      • Aug 2014
      • 3159

      #302
      Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

      I understand why people are upset about aiming being in the left stick but I think about it this way, if you're being forced from the pocket/running for your life you aren't gonna be trying to make precision passes. For me precision passing is gonna be used when I have to time to step up in the pocket, set my feet(so there's no need to be using LS), and throw.

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      • ODogg
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        • Feb 2003
        • 37953

        #303
        Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

        Originally posted by SolidSquid
        I understand why people are upset about aiming being in the left stick but I think about it this way, if you're being forced from the pocket/running for your life you aren't gonna be trying to make precision passes. For me precision passing is gonna be used when I have to time to step up in the pocket, set my feet(so there's no need to be using LS), and throw.
        That's a very good point man, I think I like it a bit better now if I think of it in those terms.
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        • DocHolliday
          Farewell and 'ado
          • Oct 2002
          • 4696

          #304
          Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

          Has anyone seen or commented on the O-Line/D-Line play? Are pockets actually forming? Is it totally different then years past? are DE's trying to actually get downfield to force the QB up in the pocket?
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          • roadman
            *ll St*r
            • Aug 2003
            • 26339

            #305
            Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

            Originally posted by DocHolliday
            Has anyone seen or commented on the O-Line/D-Line play? Are pockets actually forming? Is it totally different then years past? are DE's trying to actually get downfield to force the QB up in the pocket?
            Probably need to wait on the videos to be released for that information. Supposedly, simulation mode plays to the players ratings this year. If you have a weak OL, you will be exposed.

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            • SageInfinite
              Stop The GOAT Talk
              • Jul 2002
              • 11896

              #306
              Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

              Originally posted by roadman
              Probably need to wait on the videos to be released for that information. Supposedly, simulation mode plays to the players ratings this year. If you have a weak OL, you will be exposed.
              I'd like it to be exposed visually in a more realistic way. That's been my problem. For me they need to have animations that go a long with these ratings. I don't want to see my linemen just stop blocking or sliding out of the way because their ratings were low. I want to see lineman get out maneuvered or over powered where I can point to it and say "damn that looked real or I see why that happened due to the match up...".
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              • SteelD34KC
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                • Aug 2016
                • 762

                #307
                Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                Originally posted by SageInfinite
                I'd like it to be exposed visually in a more realistic way. That's been my problem. For me they need to have animations that go a long with these ratings. I don't want to see my linemen just stop blocking or sliding out of the way because their ratings were low. I want to see lineman get out maneuvered or over powered where I can point to it and say "damn that looked real or I see why that happened due to the match up...".
                Well and have DLineman actually push my Olineman into me, actually COLLAPSE the pocket. There is no reason whatsoever that with PBLK slider set to 0, that a good pocket should form.

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                • SageInfinite
                  Stop The GOAT Talk
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 11896

                  #308
                  Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                  Originally posted by SteelD34KC
                  Well and have DLineman actually push my Olineman into me, actually COLLAPSE the pocket. There is no reason whatsoever that with PBLK slider set to 0, that a good pocket should form.
                  Yeah things need to just be more dynamic. Everything shouldn't be a clear cut win/loss situation.....
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                  • SteelD34KC
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                    • Aug 2016
                    • 762

                    #309
                    Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                    Originally posted by SageInfinite
                    Yeah things need to just be more dynamic. Everything shouldn't be a clear cut win/loss situation.....
                    Which is why I sorta laughed/cried when I heard Rex in the interview talk about the dice roll behind throws and such.

                    It seems moving to the frostbyte engine havent taken away the 50/50. Maybe it has, but from what Im hearing I dunno.

                    I know its still early, and of course Ill probably buy this game. I have my xbone for one reason, madden lol.

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                    • RGiles36
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 3957

                      #310
                      Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                      While still very much looking forward to M18, I'm sort of underwhelmed with the concept of target passing (and I realize how premature that is with no gameplay footage).

                      When it was first mentioned, I got the impression that playing offense in Madden was about to get major facelift; something that would change the game significantly and be somewhat user friendly. After reading impressions and watching dev interviews, it seems more like a bonus user mechanic rather than something they're really behind to make the game more realistic.

                      It doesn't change my outlook on M18, even without major upgrades to franchise. I think I just made an assumption that this was going to be a big deal + major selling point vs an 'extra' of sorts.


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                      • johnnyg713
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 1465

                        #311
                        Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                        Originally posted by SolidSquid
                        I understand why people are upset about aiming being in the left stick but I think about it this way, if you're being forced from the pocket/running for your life you aren't gonna be trying to make precision passes. For me precision passing is gonna be used when I have to time to step up in the pocket, set my feet(so there's no need to be using LS), and throw.
                        You make a good point. If you or I were playing football in the backyard, we wouldnt be thinking about putting the ball in a specific spot. However NFL QB's do this all the time. They also practice throwing on the run.

                        I want to know how the game handles throwing on the run when in precision mode. It obviously should be harder to do. It obviously should be more inaccurate. But it should be possible to try and pull off.

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                        • ODogg
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 37953

                          #312
                          Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                          Originally posted by johnnyg713
                          You make a good point. If you or I were playing football in the backyard, we wouldnt be thinking about putting the ball in a specific spot. However NFL QB's do this all the time. They also practice throwing on the run.

                          I want to know how the game handles throwing on the run when in precision mode. It obviously should be harder to do. It obviously should be more inaccurate. But it should be possible to try and pull off.
                          You won't be throwing on the run at all using the new passing system. The left stick moves the reticule so you will need to be standing still to use target passing.
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                          • Cowboy008
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                            • Mar 2012
                            • 4574

                            #313
                            Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                            Originally posted by ODogg
                            You won't be throwing on the run at all using the new passing system. The left stick moves the reticule so you will need to be standing still to use target passing.
                            In 17 I could have sworn that you can tap R2 and your QB would get out of the pocket and just jog to the side without holding the left stick? Maybe it will be the same in 18 and while your jogging you can use the left stick.

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                            • johnnyg713
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 1465

                              #314
                              Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                              Originally posted by ODogg
                              You won't be throwing on the run at all using the new passing system. The left stick moves the reticule so you will need to be standing still to use target passing.
                              Are you assuming that's what happens when you are on the run and you hit LT? I'm just curious as to what actually happens.

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                              • XtremeDunkz
                                CNFL Commissioner
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 3414

                                #315
                                Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

                                Holding LT made the QB throw low passes last year. So are the High/low options gone?
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