Difficulty - All-Pro vs. All-Madden

[Outkizast]

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I have played All-Madden for the last couple years as well. But yes I have had to adjust sliders a bit. I find it's the only way to get a consistent challenge. All-Pro may be good for a couple games but then like someone else mentioned, you realize you are 13-3 with a sub-par team and Jared Goff is taking you to the Super Bowl... All-pro usually feels too predictable to me and I have to actually switch up my game plans on All-Madden.

This is all based off of the last couple years though, haven't done enough testing with '18 yet but I'm sure it will be the same. I lost my last ea access game with the Raiders at Titans 20-30... Although Carr left for the 2nd half with an injury. It felt pretty good so we'll see where it goes.

I definitely have not seen any "blatant cheating" that others have the past couple years and All-Madden is almost all I play. Not sure where that comes from.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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I don't understand why people still try to play on All-Madden. We've known for what, 15 years that the CPU blatantly cheats? And that your own players are dumbed down? How is that fun or realistic?

Ego stroking, that is all it is. People do that with every game they play, put it on the hardest difficulty right off the bat. Crazy thing is people play All Madden but then dumb down the CPU side with sliders. To me if you doing all that, then might as well just play on All Pro, because essentially that is what you are doing when you dumbing down the CPU side.

But hey different strokes for different folks. Your money, your time, play the game the way you want to play it. Just seem like this thread is made every year, at least 5 times a year every time a new sports game comes out.

[Jarodd21]

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I don't understand why people still try to play on All-Madden. We've known for what, 15 years that the CPU blatantly cheats? And that your own players are dumbed down? How is that fun or realistic?

Everyone has different skill levels(Seems like I been saying this for the past 7-8 years already). There's guys like myself who easily blow the CPU out on default All-Madden. Yeah the CPU gets a little boost but if you know what you are doing you'll have no trouble scoring and stopping the CPU on default All-Madden. In my opinion the USER gets a boost on All-Pro with how easy it is to do whatever you want against them. I personally have to boost the sliders on All-Madden to get a challenge. To each his own. I just don't like when I see people talking like it's impossible to beat or smash the CPU on All-Madden.

[Outkizast]

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Ego stroking, that is all it is. People do that with every game they play, put it on the hardest difficulty right off the bat. Crazy thing is people play All Madden but then dumb down the CPU side with sliders. To me if you doing all that, then might as well just play on All Pro, because essentially that is what you are doing when you dumbing down the CPU side.

But hey different strokes for different folks. Your money, your time, play the game the way you want to play it. Just seem like this thread is made every year, at least 5 times a year every time a new sports game comes out.

I don't play all-madden to "stroke my ego". I could care less what people thought. I don't play online or competitively, just CFM. My goal isn't to just make it difficult, it's to make it as realistic as possible. If I don't feel it's as realistic on all-pro, I will try to find a difficulty that is closest and tweak.

[mathteachernerd1968]

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I just got the game a few hours ago and played an exhibition with my Dolphins against the Bills. Played on All-Madden in m17 so did the same with M18 today & did a simulation game after putting together most of what would be my custom playbook. I love gun Trips-TE and similar formations.

Holy crap was I throwing a TON of interceptions today and my QB accuracy was WAY off on quite a few throws. I've only played one game so far with 10 minute quarters to get a feel for it, but it'll definitely take some getting used to.

I'll stick with it a little longer but offense seems tougher on M18 vs. CPU on all-Madden difficulty compared to M17.

[UravenzownU]

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In the same dilemma as many of you but idk this all madden has really been grinding my gears lately

Played about 6 games on all madden and it's not looking to great.... I get a kick blocked once a game literally.... little to no pass rush

And this at least 4 times a game

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[BILLS NATION]

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I just got the game a few hours ago and played an exhibition with my Dolphins against the Bills.

LOL Did you lose?

[mathteachernerd1968]

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That's ridiculous.

The QB inaccuracy is making me SMH in amazement.

Just horrible.

[ATLBrayden]

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What do most people play on and why?

I play on All-Madden because All-Pro is too boring. I don't want to brag or anything but All-Pro offers no challenge at all, losing isn't even a thought on that difficulty. To be honest, All-Madden isn't that hard either. You just need to learn the CPUs tendencies and what plays to call.

No matter the difficulty the AI will still come out in Cover 0 and press Julio Jones with an 80ovr CB. You've just got to outsmart them. The other team just changed their formation? Audible your play too. They changed it back? You change back too.

On All-Madden you'll noticeably get a very poor pass rush. If you send a blitz they'll block enough players to stop it so it's best to just stay in coverage. Stopping the run isn't too bad but you have to come out in the right personnel or you'll get gutted. The CPU is also very dangerous with jukes, no matter the defender I've noticed the CPU has a 100% success rate when using juke moves.

It helps a lot to user a LB, the CPU is very good at finding holes in coverage so you have to take away as much of the field as possible.

Minimizing mistakes is key. The CPU isn't going to drop that 50/50 interception, so you have to keep your players out of those situations. I notice people talk about DB super speed and CBs coming from across the field for picks, and no offense but I believe those people just aren't as skilled as they think they are at the game. You have to know what plays to run and when to run them, you have to be able to recognize coverages and know what plays take advantage of those coverages.

All-Pro is probably a more "sim experience", but depending on your skill level you're probably gonna lose interest in playing games. All-Madden is seeing changes in gameplay and ramping up AI to make it more difficult, so it's definitely a less sim but more challenging experience.

I could probably keep going with this write-up but that wasn't really the point of the thread so I tried to keep it on the short side.

[mathteachernerd1968]

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LOL Did you lose?

I would've been completely blown out had I played offense and defense.

First game, so I was switching users back and forth and just playing offense. I sucked BADLY.

[Darth Aegis]

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Believe me if it was ego stroking I would play online for that. I've been playing on All Madden since EA access and I really like the challenge. I'm probably around a average player, so I really have to be on my toes and make the right reads. I actually haven't seen much cheating by the CPU, everything seems earned. I've been editing my own rosters with my goal of leaving all sliders on default. We all know once sliders are touched u end up throwing something else out of wack. The biggest challenge has been creating a better pass rush again.

[cneuy3]

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All-Pro is probably a more "sim experience", but depending on your skill level you're probably gonna lose interest in playing games. All-Madden is seeing changes in gameplay and ramping up AI to make it more difficult, so it's definitely a less sim but more challenging experience.

I'm in the same boat as you. In past years I've always had to quit playing even on ALL Madden cause certain plays like "Mesh" out of the shotgun or slants with a few hot routes were too easy to exploit the ALL Madden CPU. They've said they have addressed zone coverage this year so I'm hoping I don't find more plays that always work but so far it still feels a bit easy to complete certain pass plays with WRs running inside routes.

Question for you or anyone playing on ALL Madden default this year. Are you able to run the ball at all? I'm on default ALL Madden with simulation settings and I'm finding the run game almost impossible this year. The CPU Dline seems to shed every block within a few seconds of the snap or at least they always seem to shed the key block. I'm having no success at all running the ball this year.

[Senator Palmer]

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Question for you or anyone playing on ALL Madden default this year. Are you able to run the ball at all? I'm on default ALL Madden with simulation settings and I'm finding the run game almost impossible this year. The CPU Dline seems to shed every block within a few seconds of the snap or at least they always seem to shed the key block. I'm having no success at all running the ball this year.

I've had a rough going so far, but I just had a game where I averaged 4.2 a carry after I changed the blocking in "Aggressive" and started to go to a little more outside zone.

[cneuy3]

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I've had a rough going so far, but I just had a game where I averaged 4.2 a carry after I changed the blocking in "Aggressive" and started to go to a little more outside zone.

Thanks. I tested it on "aggressive" and was able to run a fair bit better and I didn't see any added holding penalties in my limited time testing it out. The "normal" setting in All Madden for blocking should be changed to "lazy" or something that signifies what your Olinemen are actually doing out there. I'll never go back now.

[4show10]

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I think the best way to judge is to test best vs. Worst. Meaning on all madden play with the best team vs. Worst team. If the worst team beats you.....well yea I'd say all-pro is where to go.. if the worst team is giving you all you can handle and then some but you still win, you may need to play on All-Pro. If you beat the worst team but had a somewhat challenge, you might need to play on All-Pro. If you comfortably defeat the worst team with not many issues, then I'd say stick to All-Madden.

On the flipside, for All-Pro you do the opposite. Use the worst team vs. the best team. If you win comfortably, play on All-Madden. If you had a close game but still lost, play on All-Madden, if you get blown out then I say keep it on All-Pro.

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