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  • SteelD34KC
    Banned
    • Aug 2016
    • 762

    #226
    Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

    Originally posted by roadman
    One game after the patch and I'm wondering where are all the sack issues I keep reading about. I wonder aloud if people are testing this patch out in CFM with close as to default sliders as possible.

    2nd season game in CFM using JoshC's current sliders, 2 sacks apiece by each team with coaching adjustments on aggressive all game with 3 offside penalties on the user.(me)

    Another seat of the pants game, tight game all the way to the end. Montgomery ended up with 120 yds rushing, the CPU QB, Matty Ice 64% passing with 3 int's.

    The zone coverage were sweet to see, vastly improved since launch.

    The game was played with QB edits and coaching adjustments.

    The game keeps getting better.
    Played 3 full games yesterday, offline CFM, All Pro, completely Default. Did the QB Traits change.

    I got 13 sacks, 17 sacks and 12 sacks. The CPU had 5, 7 and 4. Mainly because I do alot of running and short to mid throws that gets the ball out of my hands fast.

    But my sack numbers? Again. My team will if it continues like that beat the most sacks in a year by over 100.

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    • frankplastictrees
      vs. the World
      • Sep 2007
      • 369

      #227
      Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

      Extra points missed still not fixed. I swear, it ruins games.

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      • roadman
        *ll St*r
        • Aug 2003
        • 26339

        #228
        Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

        Originally posted by SteelD34KC
        Played 3 full games yesterday, offline CFM, All Pro, completely Default. Did the QB Traits change.

        I got 13 sacks, 17 sacks and 12 sacks. The CPU had 5, 7 and 4. Mainly because I do alot of running and short to mid throws that gets the ball out of my hands fast.

        But my sack numbers? Again. My team will if it continues like that beat the most sacks in a year by over 100.
        I'm not sure why people on Twitter and some here on OS are experiencing a wide variety of results, some say sacks are high, GCer's on Twitter say it's like EA Play Defense.

        It could be a number of factors.
        Last edited by roadman; 09-07-2017, 10:12 AM.

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        • azdawgpound
          All Star
          • Nov 2009
          • 5533

          #229
          Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

          Played 2 more games since patch

          Played against titans and mariota was all over the place he even busted a 30+ yard run neither team could do much in second half.

          Won that game 30-10....titans had chances but 2 red zone ints and 2 4th down stops in red zone sealed game.

          Just played. Bucs and Winston was going crazy down field throws and even got off some runs.

          Was 17-13 at half....again cmp couldnt do nothing in second half I won 27-13.

          The cmp and me didn't have much of a run game and that made both us pass a lot. I did see cmp jump a come back route for int..

          I didn't see many sacks until 4th was only 3 up till then until I got to Winston 3 times in 4th I ended up with 5 bucs had 2.

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          • PeoplesChampGB
            All Star
            • May 2012
            • 6003

            #230
            Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

            Originally posted by roadman
            One game after the patch and I'm wondering where are all the sack issues I keep reading about. I wonder aloud if people are testing this patch out in CFM with close as to default sliders as possible.

            2nd season game in CFM using JoshC's current sliders, 2 sacks apiece by each team with coaching adjustments on aggressive all game with 3 offside penalties on the user.(me)

            Another seat of the pants game, tight game all the way to the end. Montgomery ended up with 120 yds rushing, the CPU QB, Matty Ice 64% passing with 3 int's.

            The zone coverage were sweet to see, vastly improved since launch.

            The game was played with QB edits and coaching adjustments.

            The game keeps getting better.
            I guess it would depend on what position you play on D. I play line and it appears sometimes.
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            • roadman
              *ll St*r
              • Aug 2003
              • 26339

              #231
              Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

              Originally posted by PeoplesChampGB
              I guess it would depend on what position you play on D. I play line and it appears sometimes.
              That's a good point, I don't user the DL.

              I user the ILB's instead with player lock.

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              • SteelD34KC
                Banned
                • Aug 2016
                • 762

                #232
                Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

                Originally posted by roadman
                I'm not sure why people on Twitter and some here on OS are experiencing a wide variety of results, some say sacks are high, GCer's on Twitter say it's like EA Play Defense.

                It could be a number of factors.
                Im pretty sure Ill never trust another word GC's say. They obviously are not in the loop, and did no testing on this game.

                Or, if they did, shame on them.

                And Im not seeing a wide variety of results. Im seeing, on youtube and twitch and in my own games a horrific number of sacks per game. Both sides most times.

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                • booker21
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 4928

                  #233
                  Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

                  Originally posted by The Chef
                  Played my first game post patch and saw 20 combined sacks, much higher then any game prior to this patch today. I don't even know where to begin, my patience with this years game is at an all time low. They released this patch and increased pass rush, which clearly didn't produce whatever outcome they were hoping for as 20 combined sacks in a game is ridiculous. They did something to zone coverage per the notes but I see very little difference, still seeing post routes down the middle wide open with safeties standing and watching before attempting to do anything. I'm still sort of shell shocked that they released this game with the CPU QB play as abysmal as it is, either they don't truly care how bad it is or they think it's actually realistic which tells me all I need to know about the future of this franchise. I've had zero communication with Rex or Clint as I don't use Twitter at all but I have to seriously question the passion behind making a sim football title when you release a game with such a glaring issue surrounding the most important position on the field and then base all your testing on 6 minute quarters, that would be the equivalent of The Show developers only testing for the first 4 innings of a game and ignoring everything after that then claiming they are all about sim gameplay at the same time.

                  I guess in the end I have nobody to blame but myself for buying this game after swearing I wouldn't after dumbing down passing last year only to fix it once the Madden Bowl was over. Based on that I have a hard time believing we will see any real tangible fix to this anytime soon, I hope I'm wrong, but based on what they did last year with the QB accuracy problem I don't see it happening. We were told they could tweak each play style now that they split them up so maybe that's our saving grace but they released a patch today that didn't specifically fix anything with regards to the sim playstyle so unless that can only be fixed via tuners I'm a little perplexed as to why this avenue wasn't utilized.

                  In closing zone coverage seems slightly better, CPU QB is still terrible and them ramping up pass rush only made the problem worse. Yes I know they didn't claim they were tweaking anything QB related going into this patch but the problem should have been caught prior to release if they really cared, then again testing on 6 minute quarters probably produced 1-2 sacks a game and they lacked the foresight to realize that anyone playing on longer quarters would see ballooned numbers. I've learned my lesson, congrats EA you got me this year but it won't be happening again. I refuse to buy a half baked product then get strung along for months waiting for them to fix core elements of the game just to rinse and repeat the following year.


                  Amen

                  What is funny is that this years version got really high reviews scores. So I really doubt we are going to see the game going sim oriented anytime soon.

                  Sad but it's business. H2H esports with high scoring games is more lucrative than sim/hardcore gamers.


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                  • roadman
                    *ll St*r
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 26339

                    #234
                    Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

                    Originally posted by SteelD34KC
                    Im pretty sure Ill never trust another word GC's say. They obviously are not in the loop, and did no testing on this game.

                    Or, if they did, shame on them.

                    And Im not seeing a wide variety of results. Im seeing, on youtube and twitch and in my own games a horrific number of sacks per game. Both sides most times.
                    I'll disagree on your 1st paragraph.

                    All the GCer's wondered what happened to the defense at EA Play once they had the game in their hands. That is why the zone defense is improved vastly after the patch.

                    This quote keeps getting lost:

                    A quote on Twitter from a Gamechanger:

                    That EA Play Defense is back!! Loving what I'm seeing from everyone. Thanks to the #Madden18 devs again. This is huge!!

                    Plus, this GCer is one of the Sim GCer's.

                    I know we won't see eye to eye, better to agree to disagree, but, I respect your opinion. I'm just puzzled why people are having huge sack numbers and a lot of people aren't.
                    Last edited by roadman; 09-07-2017, 10:33 AM.

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                    • 49UNCFan
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 2460

                      #235
                      Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

                      Well I have proof it is better
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                      • Hova57
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 3754

                        #236
                        Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

                        Just wondering if some of the issues with zone is just the player doesn't have good zone or play rec. Before the patch it was normally safety play corners normally was in decent position.

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                        • booker21
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 4928

                          #237
                          Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

                          Originally posted by roadman
                          I'm not sure why people on Twitter and some here on OS are experiencing a wide variety of results, some say sacks are high, GCer's on Twitter say it's like EA Play Defense.

                          It could be a number of factors.


                          I'm thinking the same thing. Why all these different results

                          I know madden games are really different one from each other. I keep playing the same game because I'm still testing the play calling and Newton had games were he completed over 80% with 0 sacks and other games were he was 60ish with 8+ sacks.

                          The most sacks I had was 12.

                          One thing that I noticed and I'm not sure if this is coincidence but when I call the play on defense using the formation and the play I get less sacks than when I use the suggestions play calling.

                          Could this be a factor?




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                          • roadman
                            *ll St*r
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 26339

                            #238
                            Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

                            Originally posted by booker21
                            I'm thinking the same thing. Why all these different results

                            I know madden games are really different one from each other. I keep playing the same game because I'm still testing the play calling and Newton had games were he completed over 80% with 0 sacks and other games were he was 60ish with 8+ sacks.

                            The most sacks I had was 12.

                            One thing that I noticed and I'm not sure if this is coincidence but when I call the play on defense using the formation and the play I get less sacks than when I use the suggestions play calling.

                            Could this be a factor?




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                            That could be Booker, interesting thinking.

                            I'm not using coaches suggestions either. I used to use them last year and some this year, but I just don't like the strategy suggestions it comes up with from time to time.

                            Others with high sack #'s, what play calling style do you use?

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                            • SteelD34KC
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2016
                              • 762

                              #239
                              Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

                              Originally posted by roadman
                              I'll disagree on your 1st paragraph.

                              All the GCer's wondered what happened to the defense at EA Play once they had the game in their hands. That is why the zone defense is improved vastly after the patch.

                              This quote keeps getting lost:

                              A quote on Twitter from a Gamechanger:

                              That EA Play Defense is back!! Loving what I'm seeing from everyone. Thanks to the #Madden18 devs again. This is huge!!

                              Plus, this GCer is one of the Sim GCer's.

                              I know we won't see eye to eye, better to agree to disagree, but, I respect your opinion. I'm just puzzled why people are having huge sack numbers and a lot of people aren't.
                              I agree with ALOT of the things you say, and like most of your posts. And Im really, really not trying to argue with you because I do respect your opinion a great deal.

                              But, and this is just me remembering watching all the youtube videos and such. They never once said anything about how bad the zones were, or statue QBs, or anything of the sort. Im talking about the GC'ers here.

                              Now Im old, so I could be remembering incorrectly.

                              Anyway you look at it though, there is a huge problem here for alot of people. I just have no idea how to fix it. Im a computer tech, and when I have computers that give me intermittent problems, well I just tear them to the core.

                              They obviously wont do that. So were left with what?

                              And I call my own plays, sometimes on offense Ill go with coach suggestions, because alot of the plays I use are in there. But on defense, 90% of the time I use my own play calling.

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                              • callmetaternuts
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 7045

                                #240
                                Re: Madden NFL 18 Patch Available Now - Patch Notes Here

                                Originally posted by 49UNCFan
                                Well I have proof it is better
                                Not being a jerk, but what is this proof of?
                                Check out my Tampa Bay Buccaneers CFM Thread.

                                You too can be a 5* recruit at FSU.......

                                Originally posted by TwelveozPlaya21
                                add worthless Xavier Lee to that list..
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                                CFL here he comes. Pfft, wait that would require learning a playbook. McDonalds here he comes.

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