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  • ksu4all
    Rookie
    • Feb 2012
    • 23

    #16
    Re: My theory on whats wrong with madden

    Originally posted by cusefan74
    So no huddle isn't the same as NCAA 14, that's what I said.


    On NCAA you could switch to any formation no matter what your personnel was.

    I believe (need to double check later) that on madden you can only switch to formations that fit your personnel grouping.

    So madden is more accurate.

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    • truedat79
      Banned
      • Apr 2015
      • 83

      #17
      Re: My theory on whats wrong with madden

      Originally posted by ksu4all
      On NCAA you could switch to any formation no matter what your personnel was.

      I believe (need to double check later) that on madden you can only switch to formations that fit your personnel grouping.

      So madden is more accurate.
      Exactly. It essentially the same just tuned to be more realistic. But the concept is from ncaa.

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      • reyes the roof
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2009
        • 11523

        #18
        Re: My theory on whats wrong with madden

        I could be remembering things incorrectly, but I always felt like Madden was a year ahead when it came to introducing new features, like the hit stick and playmaker controls

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        • Skyboxer
          Donny Baseball!
          • Jul 2002
          • 20302

          #19
          Re: My theory on whats wrong with madden

          Originally posted by reyes the roof
          I could be remembering things incorrectly, but I always felt like Madden was a year ahead when it came to introducing new features, like the hit stick and playmaker controls
          It was a back and forth deal. NCAA had a real coach mode.
          NCAA had the player lock - D Cam first etc..

          IF I remember correctly..
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          a.k.a. Stephen W. Falken, 5 Tall Cedar Road, Goose Island, Oregon"


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          • Gotmadskillzson
            Live your life
            • Apr 2008
            • 23428

            #20
            Re: My theory on whats wrong with madden

            When it came to introducing new features, animations, graphic styles and AI improvements it went like this:

            FIFA > NHL > Madden > NCAA

            Now recently it goes like this:

            FIFA > UFC > Madden > NHL > NBA Live

            FIFA always get new stuff first, then it trickles down to the other games. By the time Madden get something, FIFA would have had it 2 or 3 years already. NCAA due to their shorter cycle was always a year behind Madden. Devs and former community managers have stated this many times on OS and at various E3/EA Play events over the past 5 years or so.

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            • Skyboxer
              Donny Baseball!
              • Jul 2002
              • 20302

              #21
              Re: My theory on whats wrong with madden

              Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
              When it came to introducing new features, animations, graphic styles and AI improvements it went like this:

              FIFA > NHL > Madden > NCAA

              Now recently it goes like this:

              FIFA > UFC > Madden > NHL > NBA Live

              FIFA always get new stuff first, then it trickles down to the other games. By the time Madden get something, FIFA would have had it 2 or 3 years already. NCAA due to their shorter cycle was always a year behind Madden. Devs and former community managers have stated this many times on OS and at various E3/EA Play events over the past 5 years or so.
              .. there were a few items where they were in NCAA first (Post above)
              Joshua:
              "D.O.D. pension files indicate current mailing as: Dr. Robert Hume,
              a.k.a. Stephen W. Falken, 5 Tall Cedar Road, Goose Island, Oregon"


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              • mykelmosinee
                Rookie
                • Oct 2014
                • 304

                #22
                Re: My theory on whats wrong with madden

                I think at this point it's safe to say that the NCAA football team was simply either more talented/creative/or had more freedom to innovate than Madden's team.

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                • kjcheezhead
                  MVP
                  • May 2009
                  • 3118

                  #23
                  Re: My theory on whats wrong with madden

                  Madden in its current form started out with the worst base game ever. Madden 06. It’s improved over the years but issues from that horrible framework has hindered the game since 2005.

                  Add to that a shortened development cycle, focus on MUT and micro transactions over other issues and short comings combined with the monotony of playing only EA style football for 12 years and you get a boring repetitive game.

                  NCAA didn’t change anything imo.

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                  • underdog13
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 3222

                    #24
                    Re: My theory on whats wrong with madden

                    I remember when Madden got the new game engine in 2012 a year before Ncaa got it...

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                    • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 4682

                      #25
                      Re: My theory on whats wrong with madden

                      Originally posted by Blzer
                      I have a supporting alternate theory:

                      Spoiler
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                      Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                      I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
                      https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

                      Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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                      • howboutdat
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 1908

                        #26
                        Re: My theory on whats wrong with madden

                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        I have a supporting alternate theory:

                        Spoiler
                        and there you have it, the real answer.
                        Yup, i said it !



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                        • SpankyAlexander
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2018
                          • 41

                          #27
                          Re: My theory on whats wrong with madden

                          EA is a money grab. No compition equals no insentive to get better

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                          • GisherJohn24
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 4578

                            #28
                            Re: My theory on whats wrong with madden

                            Originally posted by truedat79
                            Exactly. It essentially the same just tuned to be more realistic. But the concept is from ncaa.
                            For me, it's just not as fun. The physics may be finally coming around, but I guess does real football physics make for a good football game? A.I. is weaker than the previous gen games, that's not debated I don't think... I still break out Madden 10, 25 and 15 and I have a more enjoyable experience than I do with 18 or 17 (which I did like btw).

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