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  • briz1046
    MVP
    • May 2013
    • 1017

    #16
    Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

    Originally posted by SolidSquid
    So to me it sounds like the new “Intuitive” progression system is really the same old system but now you can only upgrade certain stats based on archetype. So for example a 3-4 pass rusher OLB can upgrade his pass rush moves while a cover 2 OLB can upgrade zone and man coverage.

    I pray im wrong bc its sounds dumb as hell. We really need a stats based progression system
    What we need is a progression system driven by practice and training etc ( OTAs, training camp etc) NOT based on in-game stats/goals
    Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon .... No matter how good you are , the bird is going to **** on the board and strut around like it won anyway .

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    • Holmesx10
      Rookie
      • May 2017
      • 87

      #17
      Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

      I just hope they don’t screw things up with players like Deion Jones or Eric Kendricks. They are both underside mlb’s that look more like box safeties based on their madden stats but they aren’t really liabilities in the run game and they excel very well in coverage


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      • Big FN Deal
        Banned
        • Aug 2011
        • 5993

        #18
        Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

        Originally posted by briz1046
        So according to the SGO article they have changed the XP system , renamed them Skill points and via the archetypes are restricting how they may be spent, to make it more ' INTUITIVE '

        None of that sounds bad , indeed it may be a improvement BUT :-

        those skill points are still earned ON THE FIELD ( at least that's the only way mentioned) when the MAJOR flaw in the whole system was that it's production based , and thus COUNTER INTUITIVE by design , as many people here have pointed out

        Obviously more reveals yet to come ..but so far not impressed
        This touches on my main question, how effective can something like archetypes be within an XP based system?

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        • briz1046
          MVP
          • May 2013
          • 1017

          #19
          Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

          Originally posted by Big FN Deal
          This touches on my main question, how effective can something like archetypes be within an XP based system?

          XP or whatever they wish to name it isn't the problem , it's merely a coinage , that is :- an alternative to a hard and fast * do this and get that reward* type system

          The issue I have is how you can earn it , and to a lesser extent how it can be spent ...they seem to have attempted to address my minor concern via archetypes, whilst ignoring my major problem . We'll see though when it's fully revealed
          Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon .... No matter how good you are , the bird is going to **** on the board and strut around like it won anyway .

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          • bucky60
            Banned
            • Jan 2008
            • 3288

            #20
            Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

            Originally posted by briz1046
            XP or whatever they wish to name it isn't the problem , it's merely a coinage , that is :- an alternative to a hard and fast * do this and get that reward* type system

            The issue I have is how you can earn it , and to a lesser extent how it can be spent ...they seem to have attempted to address my minor concern via archetypes, whilst ignoring my major problem . We'll see though when it's fully revealed

            Different lipstick, same progression system pig.

            Give me an updated Head Coach with Madden gameplay for a franchise mode.

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            • triplechin
              Pro
              • Jul 2010
              • 594

              #21
              Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

              Originally posted by briz1046
              What we need is a progression system driven by practice and training etc ( OTAs, training camp etc) NOT based on in-game stats/goals
              For all your progression needs, check my signature lol

              To the general point, this seems extremely disappointing and really dropping the bar. The longer we wait to overhaul this mode, the more time is wasted. Building on these illogical features is a waste of time
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              • T4VERTS
                MVP
                • Jan 2011
                • 1153

                #22
                Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

                Originally posted by oneamongthefence
                I wonder if regression will be more dynamic then?

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                Short answer is yes
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                • shockl3y
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 408

                  #23
                  Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

                  From the tiny bit of info they’ve released on this “new” feature it sounds like absolutely nothing new or groundbreaking. More like a slight reskin of stuff already in the game in order to pad the list of “new” features for Franchise mode. I’m more nervous than excited, this feature seems more like a burden than anything truly new or exciting.

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                  • T4VERTS
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1153

                    #24
                    Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

                    Originally posted by shockl3y
                    From the tiny bit of info they’ve released on this “new” feature it sounds like absolutely nothing new or groundbreaking. More like a slight reskin of stuff already in the game in order to pad the list of “new” features for Franchise mode. I’m more nervous than excited, this feature seems more like a burden than anything truly new or exciting.
                    It is going to shape how players are built. In a CFM you have always been able to dump XP in a single stat that is OP for the position and that just isn’t the case anymore. You add in the impact of fitting the coaches scheme and you get a pretty solid feature that can be built on over time.
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                    • gr18
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2315

                      #25
                      Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

                      Originally posted by bucky60
                      Different lipstick, same progression system pig.

                      Give me an updated Head Coach with Madden gameplay for a franchise mode.
                      We all thought that was the logical and intended blueprint for CFM way back going on 7 versions ago.

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                      • shockl3y
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 408

                        #26
                        Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

                        Originally posted by T4VERTS
                        It is going to shape how players are built. In a CFM you have always been able to dump XP in a single stat that is OP for the position and that just isn’t the case anymore. You add in the impact of fitting the coaches scheme and you get a pretty solid feature that can be built on over time.
                        If they incorporated OC/DC/ST coaches and actually made it all relevant into truly building a team then I’d consider it “pretty solid” otherwise it’s just a slightly different layer into an already existing feature. This isn’t anything new, just another reason depth chart overalls won’t match the actual overall rating of the player.

                        There are so many more aspects to a good franchise mode that could’ve been implemented for more immersion into a mode that is lacking it. In the PS2 days Madden was massively immersive, these rehashed features just feel hollow. Like I said, something as basic as a (not even) full coaching staff isn’t even in the game, and hasn’t been since the PS2 days. That’s pretty ****ing sad.

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                        • mtmetcalfe
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 491

                          #27
                          Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

                          Originally posted by briz1046
                          those skill points are still earned ON THE FIELD ( at least that's the only way mentioned) when the MAJOR flaw in the whole system was that it's production based , and thus COUNTER INTUITIVE by design , as many people here have pointed out
                          I sure hope this isn’t the case. This will be majorly disappointing if true.

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                          • scitychamps87
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                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1201

                            #28
                            Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

                            I'm wondering how well the AI will build rosters around their scheme. Or will there be glitches? Like avoiding the #1 QB in the draft because he "doesn't fit your scheme"?

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                            • XtremeDunkz
                              CNFL Commissioner
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 3414

                              #29
                              Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

                              Originally posted by scitychamps87
                              I'm wondering how well the AI will build rosters around their scheme. Or will there be glitches? Like avoiding the #1 QB in the draft because he "doesn't fit your scheme"?

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                              To be fair, the Browns have done this a couple times in real life.
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                              • scitychamps87
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                                • Apr 2010
                                • 1201

                                #30
                                Re: How in-depth do you think Madden will take its archetype system?

                                Originally posted by XtremeDunkz
                                To be fair, the Browns have done this a couple times in real life.
                                True. DeShaun Watson jumps out at me immediately. Would I expect Cleveland to do this? Yes. New England? No.

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