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  • aceoye
    Rookie
    • Jul 2009
    • 355

    #106
    Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

    Originally posted by bkrich83
    When are you hitting the catch button? How late in the process.


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    I've tried clicking on and holding down the button right after I've thrown the ball and clicked on and pressed right before the catch. I'm getting most of the same (lackluster) animations everytime.

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    • bkrich83
      Has Been
      • Jul 2002
      • 71574

      #107
      Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

      Originally posted by aceoye
      I've tried clicking on and holding down the button right after I've thrown the ball and clicked on and pressed right before the catch. I'm getting most of the same (lackluster) animations everytime.


      My success on deep balls is when the ball is about halfway there on balls with altitude. On deep balls with some arc this is just right after the ball starts to get in to the downward portion of its arc.

      I was initially doing it right as I threw the ball and had no success. If you do it too late it makes sense that some animations would be auto triggered.


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      Tracking my NCAA Coach Career

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      • novadolla
        Pro
        • Sep 2010
        • 551

        #108
        Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

        Ive tried everything suggested, none of it works, literally 99.9% its a pick, bare see in any of them incomplete, its really silly, i can post videos. Thriw a deep ball to AJ green or any elite WR vs any low overall slow CB and its going to be more interceptions than deflections, definitely more picks than catches. 😂😂😂

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        • bcruise
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2004
          • 23274

          #109
          Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

          Originally posted by novadolla
          Ive tried everything suggested, none of it works, literally 99.9% its a pick, bare see in any of them incomplete, its really silly, i can post videos. Thriw a deep ball to AJ green or any elite WR vs any low overall slow CB and its going to be more interceptions than deflections, definitely more picks than catches. 😂😂😂
          'Kay. I can post videos too. Tyreek vs 78 OVR Vontae Davis, All-Pro default. Cover 0 vs a Fly route, Max Protect to give myself time to throw against the blitz. RAC catch because I have position on the CB - aggressive catch attempts probably get blown up here because the WR has to come back to high-point it. Practice mode to control variables (fatigue and defensive playcalls, mostly).

          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/robLL5yqF2s?rel=0&amp;showinfo=0" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

          That's not even a 50/50 - it's a clean win for Hill every time.

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          • novadolla
            Pro
            • Sep 2010
            • 551

            #110
            Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

            Thats not a jump ball bud, tyreek has a step on the DB why would the ball not hit him in the hands? 😏 thats not 50/50

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            • bcruise
              Hall Of Fame
              • Mar 2004
              • 23274

              #111
              Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

              Originally posted by novadolla
              Thats not a jump ball bud, tyreek has a step on the DB why would the ball not hit him in the hands? �� thats not 50/50
              You didn't say anything about 50/50, and there was no need for one in this scenario. You simply said to throw up a lob for a superstar WR vs a lesser CB. If there's no need for an aggressive catch in this scenario (and there isn't), why would I even do one?

              All I was doing was responding to your absurd scenario. I don't care if the thread as a whole is about 50/50, your last post wasn't. Especially when you mentioned the CB being slow.
              Last edited by bcruise; 09-01-2018, 06:52 PM.

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              • novadolla
                Pro
                • Sep 2010
                • 551

                #112
                Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                Originally posted by bcruise
                You didn't say anything about 50/50, and there was no need for one in this scenario. You simply said to throw up a lob for a superstar WR vs a lesser CB. If there's no need for an aggressive catch in this scenario (and there isn't), why would I even do one?

                All I was doing was responding to your absurd scenario. I don't care if the thread as a whole is about 50/50, your last post wasn't. Especially when you mentioned the CB being slow.
                Check the title of the thread, if you have a step why would he not make the catch? Whats there to win, besides that animation not stripping the ball out? Absurd lol. So you respond to a post about 50/50 balls with a video with you burning db with the fastes t WR in the game and now getting angry at me for pointing out that it wasnt 50/50? Have a good day sir.

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                • bcruise
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23274

                  #113
                  Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                  Originally posted by novadolla
                  Check the title of the thread, if you have a step why would he not make the catch? Whats there to win, besides that animation not stripping the ball out? Absurd lol. So you respond to a post about 50/50 balls with a video with you burning db with the fastes t WR in the game and now getting angry at me for pointing out that it wasnt 50/50? Have a good day sir.
                  I did exactly what you asked someone to do in this post:

                  Originally posted by novadolla
                  Ive tried everything suggested, none of it works, literally 99.9% its a pick, bare see in any of them incomplete, its really silly, i can post videos. Thriw a deep ball to AJ green or any elite WR vs any low overall slow CB and its going to be more interceptions than deflections, definitely more picks than catches. 😂😂😂
                  You have a good day as well.

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                  • Rjrosco
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 177

                    #114
                    Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                    So is the only way to compete on a 50/50 ball is to user catch... Definitely need something similar to rb special moves Manuel/ Auto for Wr as well

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                    • grilled_rooster
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 48

                      #115
                      Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                      Yesterday my WR swatted a 50/50 Deep Ball in Double Coverage he wasn't able to catch. If he didn't do anything it would have been a 100% INT. Great Play by my WR.
                      Last edited by grilled_rooster; 09-25-2018, 03:02 AM.

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                      • aceoye
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 355

                        #116
                        Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                        Originally posted by grilled_rooster
                        Yesterday my WR swatted a 50/50 Deep Ball in Double Coverage he wasn't able to catch. If he didn't do anything it would have been a 100% INT. Great Play by my WR.
                        I've been seeing this recently too. It looks like they updated the game or something. That said EA is always 1 step forward 2 steps backwards. The catch while running animation is now overpowered for WR.. even if you have a DB there ready to swat the game puts both players into an animation letting the WR catch the ball.

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                        • novadolla
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 551

                          #117
                          Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                          Originally posted by aceoye
                          I've been seeing this recently too. It looks like they updated the game or something. That said EA is always 1 step forward 2 steps backwards. The catch while running animation is now overpowered for WR.. even if you have a DB there ready to swat the game puts both players into an animation letting the WR catch the ball.
                          I havent seen this. Still seeing tons of ints on 50 50 deep balls

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                          • BegBy
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 1212

                            #118
                            Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                            Originally posted by novadolla
                            I havent seen this. Still seeing tons of ints on 50 50 deep balls



                            Yeah, I am seeing nearly the opposite. On long balls where I have a step on the DB I'm lucky to catch it 50% of the time. Often I get absolutely WWE smoked in a physically impossible tackle where I end up flipping around like an empty bag in the wind. If I have a couple steps I usually make the catch. On 50/50 balls I catch it maybe 10% of the time. My receiver kinda just never wins those battles. It's so bad that as soon as the animation starts you automatically know because the same ones are used over and over again. Maybe that's the problem. For these types of plays they only have around 5 WR catch animations and 20 DB tipping, INT and tackle animations.

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                            • novadolla
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 551

                              #119
                              Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                              Originally posted by BegBy
                              Yeah, I am seeing nearly the opposite. On long balls where I have a step on the DB I'm lucky to catch it 50% of the time. Often I get absolutely WWE smoked in a physically impossible tackle where I end up flipping around like an empty bag in the wind. If I have a couple steps I usually make the catch. On 50/50 balls I catch it maybe 10% of the time. My receiver kinda just never wins those battles. It's so bad that as soon as the animation starts you automatically know because the same ones are used over and over again. Maybe that's the problem. For these types of plays they only have around 5 WR catch animations and 20 DB tipping, INT and tackle animations.
                              Yea i hate that, and it doesnt matter who the WR is, once they grab you, youre sure to drop it, or the ball gets batted 20 yards across the field straight to a diving DB for a pick

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                              • aceoye
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 355

                                #120
                                Re: WR not attacking the ball on deep 50/50 balls

                                Originally posted by novadolla
                                I havent seen this. Still seeing tons of ints on 50 50 deep balls
                                Hold X or Square even if you have one step on the receiver. Jump balls are still hard but if you have even a little space. The catch while running activation is something else.

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