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  • xSABOx
    Pro
    • Sep 2004
    • 846

    #436
    Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken



    I bet these new settings is the culprit for man coveage
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    • xCoachDx
      MVP
      • Aug 2015
      • 1295

      #437
      Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

      Originally posted by xSABOx


      I bet these new settings is the culprit for man coveage


      What is this??


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      • xSABOx
        Pro
        • Sep 2004
        • 846

        #438
        Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

        Originally posted by xCoachDx
        What is this??


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        Settings that control the game with a modding tool

        They just added the angle reactions, wasnt in last years game. Theres a timer system they use to determine coverage reaction
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        • feeq14
          MVP
          • Jun 2004
          • 3526

          #439
          Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

          I've found that changing coach adjustments to "play ball" makes dbs much less likely to watch a ball sail right over their heads. Unfortunately there is no way to do this for the cpu

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          • GameBreaker35
            Rookie
            • May 2012
            • 382

            #440
            Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

            Originally posted by xSABOx


            I bet these new settings is the culprit for man coveage


            Nice find.

            Can you edit the timer to 0.0? And see how the defenders react to cuts?
            Alabama Crimson Tide | Jacksonville Jaguars

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            • xSABOx
              Pro
              • Sep 2004
              • 846

              #441
              Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

              I already made changes to my mod

              Here's a quick preview to just the first play of the game

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              • xSABOx
                Pro
                • Sep 2004
                • 846

                #442
                Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

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                • edgevoice
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1199

                  #443
                  Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                  Originally posted by SolidSquid
                  I do this sometimes when i generate pressure with a user rush(which never works) but this year it seems like the switch mechanic is different. It usually switches me to a player im not expecting to be switched to. This leads to me controlling a player not in position to make a play and the cpu defender who is in position to make a play just doing nothing.
                  That's weird. In Madden 19 that happened to me quite frequently. However, in Madden 20, bang it switches immediately to the correct defender. As someone else suggested, double check to make sure "switch assist" is off as that can bug things up. Good luck Squid.

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                  • slimm44
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 3253

                    #444
                    Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                    In around 5 posts, Sabo has put to bed the idea that the devs could have problems fixing this issue. I've been following the thread since the beginning and was waiting for this dude to get under the hood.
                    Acts 2:38. Let the truth be told.
                    John 4:23. He is seeking a seeker.
                    John 3:20. Say no to normal.

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                    • xSABOx
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 846

                      #445
                      Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                      Originally posted by xSABOx
                      I already made changes to my mod

                      Here's a quick preview to just the first play of the game

                      https://streamable.com/r5djt
                      Originally posted by slimm44
                      In around 5 posts, Sabo has put to bed the idea that the devs could have problems fixing this issue. I've been following the thread since the beginning and was waiting for this dude to get under the hood.
                      It's tough man because I can tighten the coverage easily, which I have.. the zone coverage is actually a very detailed logic system that is hard to tweak except the reaction time to ball being thrown...

                      The biggest issue for myself is finding a happy medium between tight coverage, WRs still making plays, not an over abundance of swats/knockout animation and interceptions

                      so i get why its a pain for the developers especially dealing with comp players he want the game to be more wide open
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                      • roadman
                        *ll St*r
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 26339

                        #446
                        Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                        Originally posted by xSABOx
                        It's tough man because I can tighten the coverage easily, which I have.. the zone coverage is actually a very detailed logic system that is hard to tweak except the reaction time to ball being thrown...

                        The biggest issue for myself is finding a happy medium between tight coverage, WRs still making plays, not an over abundance of swats/knockout animation and interceptions

                        so i get why its a pain for the developers especially dealing with comp players he want the game to be more wide open
                        I think it's difficult for people to understand that if they tweak one area, another area of the game could go haywire.

                        I'm not a programmer, but this is my understanding of the situation with Madden.

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                        • canes21
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 22906

                          #447
                          Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                          Originally posted by roadman
                          I think it's difficult for people to understand that if they tweak one area, another area of the game could go haywire.

                          I'm not a programmer, but this is my understanding of the situation with Madden.
                          I'm sure that is 100% true when they are implementing new things, making changes to code, etc., but for the most part with our mods it is pretty straight forward when you change something. You know what will be impacted and not often does anything change that surprises you. That was the beauty of the end of the line last year when we finally figured out what the vast majority of values changed. It was easier to diagnose an issue and go in and tune things around and know you aren't breaking everything.

                          There are things that need to be tuned together like if you slow passed down you may need to slow coverage reactions down to balance it, but most everything was rather straightforward fortunately.
                          “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                          ― Plato

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                          • slimm44
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 3253

                            #448
                            Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                            Originally posted by xSABOx
                            It's tough man because I can tighten the coverage easily, which I have.. the zone coverage is actually a very detailed logic system that is hard to tweak except the reaction time to ball being thrown...

                            The biggest issue for myself is finding a happy medium between tight coverage, WRs still making plays, not an over abundance of swats/knockout animation and interceptions

                            so i get why its a pain for the developers especially dealing with comp players he want the game to be more wide open
                            I don't doubt that it's detailed, but you have proved (over and over again) that it's possible. That's all I was pointing out.

                            Your mod last year proved what is capable with Madden's engine and I have no doubt that you'll do it again this year.
                            Acts 2:38. Let the truth be told.
                            John 4:23. He is seeking a seeker.
                            John 3:20. Say no to normal.

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                            • xCoachDx
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 1295

                              #449
                              Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                              Originally posted by xSABOx
                              It's tough man because I can tighten the coverage easily, which I have.. the zone coverage is actually a very detailed logic system that is hard to tweak except the reaction time to ball being thrown...



                              The biggest issue for myself is finding a happy medium between tight coverage, WRs still making plays, not an over abundance of swats/knockout animation and interceptions



                              so i get why its a pain for the developers especially dealing with comp players he want the game to be more wide open


                              Wouldn’t it be nice if we could have separate modes? Like one for comp players and one for like the sim players? Maybe even one for the casuals who want like high scoring “arcade” type fun?


                              Wait..


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                              • Swagger Jack
                                Rookie
                                • Dec 2015
                                • 302

                                #450
                                Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                                Originally posted by xSABOx


                                I bet these new settings is the culprit for man coveage
                                Can you tell me where you go to see and alter these values on PC? Do you need a tool or something????

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