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  • KyBluegrass
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    • Jul 2020
    • 12

    #61
    Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

    1.Chunk of grass stuck in facemasks.
    2. Field degradation over time.
    3. Show players cleaning cleats during rain games on grass.
    4. Pre-game warmup with players going through blockshed drills/form tackling/ walk throughs.
    5. Water guy walking around with a towel and water.
    6. Show the guys in the booth talking about the game.

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    • illwill10
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2009
      • 19796

      #62
      Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

      Originally posted by J.hunt1376
      Being able to run off the field when you're winning and there's less than 30 seconds on the game clock.
      Yeah, I don't why EA hasn't tried to implement this especially now in the "fast to fun" era. AI doesn't acknowledge that you are winning when are doing final kneel down.
      It wouldn't even seem that hard to implement. The game needs to recognize that if you are winning, opponent/you have no timeouts left, and it's under 40 secs to just run the end of game cut scene where the teams run on the field early and just keep the scorebug on the screen with time running. I don't want to have to sit through those last 40 secs because game can't recognize that it is over.

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      • J.hunt1376
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        • Sep 2018
        • 121

        #63
        Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

        Originally posted by illwill10
        Yeah, I don't why EA hasn't tried to implement this especially now in the "fast to fun" era. AI doesn't acknowledge that you are winning when are doing final kneel down.
        It wouldn't even seem that hard to implement. The game needs to recognize that if you are winning, opponent/you have no timeouts left, and it's under 40 secs to just run the end of game cut scene where the teams run on the field early and just keep the scorebug on the screen with time running. I don't want to have to sit through those last 40 secs because game can't recognize that it is over.
        Not even the no-time-outs part. I was in a game last night, I was up by 13 and there were 6 seconds left in the game. CPU had all three TOs and subsequently used each one as I knelt 2 plays in a row. Being as petty as I was, after the last TO, and there was only :01 left on the clock, I went to the air

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        • Cardot
          I'm not on InstantFace.
          • Feb 2003
          • 6164

          #64
          Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

          Originally posted by illwill10
          Yeah, I don't why EA hasn't tried to implement this especially now in the "fast to fun" era. AI doesn't acknowledge that you are winning when are doing final kneel down.
          It wouldn't even seem that hard to implement. The game needs to recognize that if you are winning, opponent/you have no timeouts left, and it's under 40 secs to just run the end of game cut scene where the teams run on the field early and just keep the scorebug on the screen with time running. I don't want to have to sit through those last 40 secs because game can't recognize that it is over.
          I do agree. It would be both realistic, cool and a time saver. But I have to admit that I would be a little worried that this could glitch and one day as a team moves into position for a game winning FG, the game suddenly gets confused and players just run off the field.

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          • canes21
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 22902

            #65
            Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

            It would hopefully be implemented in a way to where it only fast forwards after a kneel. You could even potentially have the user be forced to hold A after the kneel to make the clock wind down to 0.

            And then of course the CPU would kneel and it would go down to 0 as if the user was holding A. That should keep it from bugging out, but you know... EA, so it would still probably bug out.
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            • Cardot
              I'm not on InstantFace.
              • Feb 2003
              • 6164

              #66
              Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

              Originally posted by canes21
              And then of course the CPU would kneel and it would go down to 0 as if the user was holding A. That should keep it from bugging out, but you know... EA, so it would still probably bug out.
              I am behind the times (still playing on a 360 LOL), so maybe things have improved??....but in M25 and NCAA14, the CPU canNOT handle some very basic "time management" decisions. So I don't have a ton of confidence in EA's ability to handle this.

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              • illwill10
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2009
                • 19796

                #67
                Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

                Originally posted by canes21
                It would hopefully be implemented in a way to where it only fast forwards after a kneel. You could even potentially have the user be forced to hold A after the kneel to make the clock wind down to 0.

                And then of course the CPU would kneel and it would go down to 0 as if the user was holding A. That should keep it from bugging out, but you know... EA, so it would still probably bug out.
                That would seem like the simplest solution. When it is under 40 secs and if CPU/User has no timeouts, just allow user to hold A/X to sim rest of game after final kneel down

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                • cch99
                  MVP
                  • May 2003
                  • 1531

                  #68
                  Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

                  I don't know if it's really unconventional but I really wish on the roster screen when separating by position and especially on the depth chart screen they would list the most important ratings first and then totally remove the ratings that don't pertain to the position.

                  For example I never need to see kick power and accuracy for anyone but kickers, speaking of which I can't believe they have never separated punt ratings and placekick ratings. I realized that most kickers are decent but if all punters could just as easily placekick I would think most teams would only keep one guy on the roster.

                  Beyond that same with lineman. Why do I need to scroll past coverage ratings or throw ratings. I hate having to constantly scroll all the way over to see my offensive lineman blocking ratings.

                  I also wish they would use letter grades for overall rather than a rating. I don't mind the numbers necessarily for specific categories, though I still wish it was all grades. I definitely mentally struggle using a lower rated guy even though he may only be an 87 instead of an 89 but if they were both B+ I'd likely use the guy who I think is performing better. I just personally prefer the grades.

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                  • tosa
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 302

                    #69
                    Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

                    Mine are:
                    Coaching Carousel
                    Wear and Tear Injury System
                    Some depth to game planning (maybe allocating snaps to players, protection, coverage)
                    Use X-Factors to better define special teams and make it relevant) long snapper, holder, special teams skills, etc)
                    **Also,everything the user has access to, the CPU must use as well or whats the point**

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                    • Mattanite
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 1716

                      #70
                      Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

                      A button in depth chart mid game that flips all your starters for subs (like when you're hammering a cpu opponent in the 4th quarter).

                      Also particularly useful if you've hit a score threshold in an online league and your opponent un-pauses your pause to initiate the 30sec timer as you're trying to run through each position and make the switch!
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                      • canes21
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 22902

                        #71
                        Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

                        Another idea I had that I think fits this thread is the ability to create schemes, assign the archetypes for the scheme, even create your own archetypes, and create/assign playbooks & gameplans to the schemes.

                        Creating the scheme is simple. You name it, you choose what archetype is preferred at each position, and you pick the playbooks that are tied to it.

                        Creating an archetype is a little more complex, but still relatively simple. You are able to weigh certain attributes that influence the overall for a player. If you wanted to make an archetype for a QB that was called "Accurate" and wanted the three accuracy ratings to make up the entire formula, you technically could. And then, for the purpose of progression, you get to pick 3-5 attributes that are the most common to upgrade each time a player gets a progression point. It's no different than how right now when you go to upgrade a player and scroll over each archetype to upgrade it tells you what attributes that archetype will see improve. You're essentially selecting those.

                        Creating the playbooks for a scheme is straight forward. Assigning playbooks that already exist in-game is straightforward as well.

                        I think the ability to create schemes and archetypes would enhance the franchise experience and could be used as a tool for the user to get their experience even more authentic to the real league. It would add to the diversity of teams you'd face. We have only a handful of schemes in the game right now and they do not all represent exactly how all 32 teams want to structure their teams, call games, etc. If we were able to create and share schemes, playbooks, archetypes, etc. and implement those into our franchise modes we would be able to improve the experience and help make up for the base game's shortcomings.
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                        • Executor
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 549

                          #72
                          Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

                          Originally posted by Mattanite
                          A button in depth chart mid game that flips all your starters for subs (like when you're hammering a cpu opponent in the 4th quarter).

                          Also particularly useful if you've hit a score threshold in an online league and your opponent un-pauses your pause to initiate the 30sec timer as you're trying to run through each position and make the switch!
                          This is an excellent one. Though I would take it a notch higher and ad a "blowout lineup" into the depth chart screen where you would be able to select which exact players at which positions would take the field for mop-up duties.
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                          • oneamongthefence
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                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5683

                            #73
                            Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

                            Originally posted by Executor
                            This is an excellent one. Though I would take it a notch higher and ad a "blowout lineup" into the depth chart screen where you would be able to select which exact players at which positions would take the field for mop-up duties.
                            Have a feature called situational depth chart. Similar to the gameplan feature but for players. Here's a few examples...

                            Up big
                            Hail Mary
                            Goal line
                            Wildcat
                            Close yardage

                            Basically you have a way to make subs without having to do it under a restrained time limit when calling a play. Some will be situational for a single play or for an entire game. Call them mass subs.


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                            • Mattanite
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 1716

                              #74
                              Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

                              Yeah, you can't have too many with the current depth chart system but I like this idea if you can rotate through more of the team view depth charts beyond the 4 you get now. Add a button per tile to go to roster to select the player you want at that spot.
                              Originally posted by oneamongthefence
                              Have a feature called situational depth chart. Similar to the gameplan feature but for players. Here's a few examples...

                              Up big
                              Hail Mary
                              Goal line
                              Wildcat
                              Close yardage

                              Basically you have a way to make subs without having to do it under a restrained time limit when calling a play. Some will be situational for a single play or for an entire game. Call them mass subs.


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                              • ripcandlestickpark
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                                • Aug 2014
                                • 1175

                                #75
                                Re: What's an unconventional addition to the game you would like to see?

                                NCAA 14 had a "Mass Subs" option that corresponds to what a few others have mentioned. On a similar note, one of my favorite ideas from Deuce's infamous CFM overhaul was his screen for pre-season depth chart management that entailed dividing one's roster into first, second, third, and fourth teams. If something like that ever made it into Franchise, it'd be even better paired with settings that allowed you dictate how long each group would play prior to each game. You could either have each group on the field for a set number number of possessions or until a certain point in the game (such as halftime).

                                I had another unconventional addition pop into my mind recently: multiple practice facilities. This is another thing that was present in the last few NCAA games; there were indoor and outdoor fields as well as a bizarre Nike-themed one. The GC/OG Xbox/PS2 Madden games also had multiple practice facilities. Unlike NCAA, though, I don't recall there being a method of choosing which one you'd play in when you entered Practice mode. IIRC, it was random.

                                This would add a fair bit of variety to Practice, and also some realism. For instance, you might have teams in cold-weather cities practice indoors during the Winter months.
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