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  • dubplate
    MVP
    • Dec 2002
    • 3784

    #31
    Re: Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

    Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic14
    It's got me pretty psyched for next gen. This game is a ton of fun as is so a free upgrade to next gen is going to be awesome. Looking forward to it.
    Same here. Gameplay has been great this year so I am looking forward to upgrading to PS5.

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    • icicle22
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 2395

      #32
      Re: Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

      Those of us on PC have been playing with a higher frame rate and slightly better graphical quality for the last several years. Unless EA has posted somewhere that they have done something more significant, I have a hard time thinking it's not just the same game with slight higher res textures and maybe smoother gameplay because of increased framerate?

      If anyone has links to any comments from EA about what is new about the PS5 / XBOX One Series X please post them. I'd love to hear more. The only thing I thought I remeber reading somewhere that it would have improved weather effects. Which it needs badly. I was a little irritated by this as I felt PC could already handle this easily but I guess porting to PC without updating much isn't important.

      Peace.

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      • JayhawkerStL
        Banned
        • Apr 2004
        • 3644

        #33
        Re: Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

        Originally posted by stinkubus
        No company is going to rebuild from scratch unless they believe they must to stay relevant. It would be impossible to justify the expense to investors otherwise, and all the top management would find themselves summarily unemployed if the only reason they could provide was "a new console generation seemed like the right time".

        Since I'm already anticipating the "what about 2k" response I can only say that any guess as to why they've chosen to rebuild would be as good as mine. If you actually care seek out the relevant investor guidance as I imagine the matter would need to be discussed in some detail with their shareholders.
        I don't think this is necessarily correct. I think when 2K releases a game, even if it is an arcade game (still betting on AP2K21), and even if it launches in the spring, EA will feel pressured to bring something to change the narrative. Honestly, if they were going to do franchise this year, I would shelved and waited once the 2K news came out.

        If they do franchise this year, it mostly just gets a bunch a negative stuff. They do it next year, and it changes the discussion from folks saying 2K is fine to the cool franchise mode Madden has now.

        So I can a path to where the suits will want to invest in franchise, because it can be sold as something to recover sales from those that buy 2K's game.

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        • oneamongthefence
          Nothing to see here folks
          • Apr 2009
          • 5683

          #34
          Re: Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

          Madden 21 on next gen will most likely be a port. Madden 22 on the other hand is what I'm most excited about. Best case scenario is there's better CPU logic all around. Franchise and gameplay. Defenders can actually make better decisions in real time. Right now zone defense is literally go to my zone and stand still until a pass is thrown. I'm not exactly excited for next gen but I usually wait a year before I pickup new consoles anyway. It helps to take care of my previous generation backlog.

          #fixmaddenfranchise
          Because I live in van down by the river...

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          • Maxil
            Rookie
            • Jul 2010
            • 223

            #35
            Re: Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

            If I hadn't decided to move to PC, I'd still be excited for next gen. This year feels the best in my hands than it has in many many years, despite some issues and disappointments (coverage bugs, franchise changes, etc.). But on my thumbs the game hasn't felt nicer since the PS3 days at least. A graphical and framerate upgrade would be a huge plus.

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            • Hooe
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2002
              • 21555

              #36
              Re: Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

              Honestly? I'm not really excited about anything next-gen yet, let alone Madden.

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              • SolidSquid
                MVP
                • Aug 2014
                • 3159

                #37
                Re: Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

                Originally posted by CM Hooe
                Honestly? I'm not really excited about anything next-gen yet, let alone Madden.
                Ratchet and Clank and Spider-Man Myles Morales are the only 2 I’m excited for.

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                • ninertravel
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 4833

                  #38
                  Re: Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

                  ZERO interest it will just be a patch that may slightly improve graphics and that is it.

                  don't be surprised if they go into full on reset mode and strip it down like they do EVERY SINGLE change of Next gen. remember madden 06?? yep that is when they took out editing rosters from the PS2. then when 07 came out it was a reason to get excited again to 'sell it as a new feature' then yep when PS4 came out they took out 32 team control in. then did a half arsed job of bringing it back where you spend 40 mins creating 32 team profiles... and it's been that way since madden 13.

                  watch PS5 will strip it down. they will lock out rosters and editing. then everyone will be upset and madden 22 will be 'now you can edit your rosters in a brand new feature' so that everyone will have a reason to buy it.

                  but when it comes down to it all they give a crap about is the MUT mode. NFL games are screwed for the next 5 years. I miss the days where I was excited and hyped as hell in June and couldn't wait for madden in August and every day was a drag. I don't think I am ever gonna get that feeling back again. those PS2 days were a long wait for hype. it's sad really.

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                  • Sphinx
                    Emerald Archer
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 877

                    #39
                    Re: Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

                    Sticking to the original question, I would say I am kind of indifferent about next gen Madden. The launch of Madden 21 hasn't been what I would consider good.

                    The issue I have with next gen at this point is, we don't know enough about it yet. Is it going to be a carbon copy of ps4/xbone? Will it have any advancements made? If it's just a prettier version of the game, then who cares?

                    I felt from the beginning that Madden this year was a transition year. It's partially why I haven't played it outside of EA access. However if I can get a next gen system and if Madden is worth playing, I would play it.

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                    • oneamongthefence
                      Nothing to see here folks
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5683

                      #40
                      Re: Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

                      Originally posted by ninertravel
                      ZERO interest it will just be a patch that may slightly improve graphics and that is it.



                      don't be surprised if they go into full on reset mode and strip it down like they do EVERY SINGLE change of Next gen. remember madden 06?? yep that is when they took out editing rosters from the PS2. then when 07 came out it was a reason to get excited again to 'sell it as a new feature' then yep when PS4 came out they took out 32 team control in. then did a half arsed job of bringing it back where you spend 40 mins creating 32 team profiles... and it's been that way since madden 13.



                      watch PS5 will strip it down. they will lock out rosters and editing. then everyone will be upset and madden 22 will be 'now you can edit your rosters in a brand new feature' so that everyone will have a reason to buy it.



                      but when it comes down to it all they give a crap about is the MUT mode. NFL games are screwed for the next 5 years. I miss the days where I was excited and hyped as hell in June and couldn't wait for madden in August and every day was a drag. I don't think I am ever gonna get that feeling back again. those PS2 days were a long wait for hype. it's sad really.
                      Actually Madden 25 on ps4 was a direct continuation of Madden 13 which introduced Connected Careers Mode. The only difference between ps3 and ps4 was true step in the gameplay department. They touted a bunch of new things like Living Worlds, 5million calculations a second, and improved graphics. But there wasn't anything reomoved when this gen came along. It was stripped down when Xbox360 came about. Madden 01 had a few things removed but it quickly surpassed ps1 Madden by 2003. But huge leaps in technology doesn't really happen anymore. We've sort of plateued when it comes to games.

                      #fixmaddenfranchise
                      Because I live in van down by the river...

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                      • ninertravel
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 4833

                        #41
                        Re: Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

                        Originally posted by oneamongthefence
                        Actually Madden 25 on ps4 was a direct continuation of Madden 13 which introduced Connected Careers Mode. The only difference between ps3 and ps4 was true step in the gameplay department. They touted a bunch of new things like Living Worlds, 5million calculations a second, and improved graphics. But there wasn't anything removed when this gen came along. It was stripped down when Xbox360 came about. Madden 01 had a few things removed but it quickly surpassed ps1 Madden by 2003. But huge leaps in technology doesn't really happen anymore. We've sort of plateued when it comes to games.

                        #fixmaddenfranchise
                        Madden 13 was when madden really started the decline though, your right that is when CFM mode came in and they deemed franchise mode as 'dead' I remember this clearly at the time they didn't want the word 'franchise' used'. and they took away 32 team control the excuse at the time was 'getting ready for next gen' when they were in fact getting ready for MUT mode and abandoning franchise all together. the idea was that CFM was some single player crap designed for online only (still is designed that way which is why 32 team control is a joke in trying to maintain it) madden 13 was the first madden I skipped since I had been buying it since madden 93. and sadly I have hardly invested in one since Like I used to.

                        that we need to do that' the quick fix in madden 14 was here is your 32 team control back but you gotta spend 30 mins creating 32 profiles. then you have to fix the depth charts and rosters that we screw up so you can spend more hours fixing it. then we won't even let you put the LS in the LS position if he is listed as a TE (only works in play now mode, they didn't fix this till about madden 18 I think)

                        Then we ran into the issue of free agents limit (another excuse!, MLB the show never has this problem) so what happens is we see lower rated players VANISH from free agents IE LS would go first... I mean there should not be roster limitations in 2020 now with this. so you had to make sure you 100% had the rosters the way you wanted them BEFORE the season started. only to find a player had vanished and you would have to restart again to get it right. it makes rosters in the vault USELESS, unless used for play now mode.

                        PS2 days and PS3 days it was 'hit square for 32 team control' then wow the rosters and depth charts you downloaded would work as well. and within 2 mins you could start your season. not fiddle for hours on end to get a 32 team control with perfect rosters. after a few years of this I gave up by about madden 16 or 17. and then only became a casual player here and there and by September I was bored. this was all because of no customization in franchise. yes maybe I am OCD when it comes to this stuff. but with a family now my time is limited.

                        So there 'we are getting ready for next Gen be patient' was now 7 years ago... and franchise hasn't changed we have the same dam format of starting one and it hasn't changed and NEVER will.
                        Last edited by ninertravel; 09-02-2020, 08:26 PM.

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                        • SOU7GLO
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 149

                          #42
                          Re: Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

                          “Free upgrade” to next gen should tell us everything we need to know.
                          Let your Soul Glo!

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                          • Hooe
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 21555

                            #43
                            Re: Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

                            Originally posted by SOU7GLO
                            “Free upgrade” to next gen should tell us everything we need to know.
                            The free next-gen upgrade offer is actually how a large portion of the industry is handling the console transition this time.

                            We should be criticizing the companies that aren't doing this and rather are showing their avarice by making us buy the same game twice. How 505 Games is handling Control comes to mind.

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                            • SeaTownGamer
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2015
                              • 1551

                              #44
                              Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

                              Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic14
                              Everything on this site is another vent thread right now. It's ridiculous. There should be two stickied threads:
                              1. Madden 21 - Discussion of the game... if you bought it
                              2. Madden 21 - Whining and Complaining thread

                              All I see is you going to different threads and ranting about other posters who are expressing their frustrations about the game and it's getting kind of old bro. We get it you like the game but try to understand why people are frustrated with the game like how they understand how you appreciate Madden 21. Last I checked I don't see anyone calling you out about how u like the game why can't you do the same?

                              As of right now you're not trying to do that and instead you rather call people out. It might not be direct to a specific person but you're posting about it in multiple threads.Just try to accept not everyone shares the same views as you. It's a forum for discussions, debates and opinions. If you can't accept that I don't know what to tell you.


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                              Last edited by SeaTownGamer; 09-02-2020, 11:51 PM.

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                              • tuckermaine
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2017
                                • 922

                                #45
                                Re: Has the Madden 21 launch dampened your expectations for Next-Gen?

                                At this moment I’m not purchasing ANYTHING...I’ll wait for the game to come out then read threads and see how the OS community responds. Madden 21 has taken all confidence out of me in EA ...and any game filtered out before New Gen...I don’t mind making a mistake here and there with a game but when I’m suckered it’s time to stop.

                                I’ll wait and see..I’m back to Madden 20..

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