M22 Scouting Tool

[Mattanite]

Re: M22 Scouting Tool

To that point, would be dope if the PhysScore could point to the combine #s, which themselves either populate as they do now based on the EG/GG/etc. physical estimates OR use combine #s if they are populated.

It is possible but would take more work on the thresholds as its detailed numbers rather than genetic statements like Elite. Need to see if fraser is up for it after the grind. [emoji23]

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[Mattanite]

Re: M22 Scouting Tool

Also, after a live fire playtest in online league to advanced unrefined only, I think Physcore on QBs needs toning down, projecting too many gems that are jumping multiple projected ranges if OK physicals with big arm (or all elite physicals is like physcore 250+).

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[Mattanite]

Re: M22 Scouting Tool

Hello all,

For transparency please find attached an Advanced level filled out scouting tool following the SMLE practice league draft. The real OVR and the drafted position have been filled out also so you can compare where the ScoutScore ranked vs the OVR vs the drafted position.

I drafted purely off ScoutScore and it worked very well with steals with my 1st and 2nd rounders, I got decent value with my QB in the 3rd but his accuracy isn't great - just a physical specimen). In the 4th there was a super rare FB with a story but when drafted he came in with 14 RBK and is a complete bust/project... this was actually a HB story convert and alerted EA to the fact that some minimum thresholds in the generator don't work properly (no player should gen with less than 24RBK). Scored very good value in the 6th with a fast WR and again with a decent DE.

1,30 C Salvador Enriquez, Rank 6, Drafted 30, 71ovr Star Dev
2,30 MLB Pat Hicks, Rank 16, Drafted 63, 72ovr Star Dev
3,30 QB Calvin Jones, Rank 65, Drafted 94, 63ovr Normal Dev
4,30 FB Cam Sampson, Rank 30, Drafted 126, 62ovr Normal Dev (45ovr Blocking Archetype though)
6,28 WR Aaron Moss, Rank 145, Drafted 188, 66ovr Normal Dev
6,30 DE Tony Medlin, Rank 149, Drafted 190, 65ovr Normal Dev

Be aware I made last minute changes to QB PhysScore weightings right before draft as I suspected the Scouting Tool was feeding me inflated projections on UDFA and Day 3 QBs and I was right.

Overall I think the Scouting Tool works well, some high OVR players were drafted high by cpu but with F injury my tool had lowered their value, such as Ron Madigan.

https://mymadden.com/lg/smlepl/draft

[Mattanite]

Re: M22 Scouting Tool

Apologies for all the updated versions all the time, to get this out to you quickly we rushed some parts which are now only being picked up AND your guys feedback is the test.

Version 01.02.03 uploaded now:

• Reweighted PhysScore Modifiers for QBs to bring down over valuation on scoutscore
• Increased positional importance of QBs from 1.20 to 1.25 to compensate slightly
• Decreased positional importance of FB, K and P from 0.8/0.5 to 0.35 to better project value at end of draft.
• Added Teams column & picklist to Board and moved true value to Board - reason here is you can index match the info from MyMadden-Draft and produce post draft graphics for your leagues.
• Drafted Tab now features Team and Ovr instead of Diff.
• Refined precombine for throwpower now working properly in Scouting Card.
• Moved Name column so less clutter in frozen columns... sorry for slight increased difficulty in copy-paste between versions.

Also I'm getting reports that things like picklists are going funny in spreadsheet apps other than Excel, sorry I don't have a fix for this but let me know if you need advice on picklist ranges to reformat.

[Mattanite]

Re: M22 Scouting Tool

Hello all, just a heads up that we're happy with where the Scouting Tool is now so wont be updating for a while unless a bug is reported. Feedback still welcome but thought it best to announce you wont have to copy-paste a new sheet for a while hopefully.

[danezel88]

Re: M22 Scouting Tool

Awesome work again Mattanite, appreciate the hard work from you and your group!

[ugkrut]

Re: M22 Scouting Tool

Fantastic work. I really appreciate all your hard work.

I may have found a bug, there's a line of code for HBs to include receiving attributes but it only triggers if they leave the RB position group for 'REC'.
I imagine this was designed so that the REC position group would trigger if you scouted a HB as a receiving back (like edge OLBs do) or guessed that they were such but it doesn't trigger that way now.

Hope this helps! Again, fantastic work.

[Mattanite]

Re: M22 Scouting Tool

Fantastic work. I really appreciate all your hard work.



I may have found a bug, there's a line of code for HBs to include receiving attributes but it only triggers if they leave the RB position group for 'REC'.

I imagine this was designed so that the REC position group would trigger if you scouted a HB as a receiving back (like edge OLBs do) or guessed that they were such but it doesn't trigger that way now.



Hope this helps! Again, fantastic work.

That's on purpose for some position a.

Qb won't register running grades under skillscore, only passing, as too often you'll have 2/3s running skills and it dampens the pocket passers scoutscore too much.

I think (can't fully remember) wr ignore running and hb ignore receiving to this effect too. Easy to add back in.

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[ugkrut]

Re: M22 Scouting Tool

Understood. Thanks for the reply!

[F17]

Re: M22 Scouting Tool

Can't wait to start the work all over again next madden when the system changes massively again :')

Regards,
Fraser (the less hard working of the duo)

[Mattanite]

Re: M22 Scouting Tool

Can't wait to start the work all over again next madden when the system changes massively again :')



Regards,

Fraser (the less hard working of the duo)

Hopefully not much change...

This tool, my tips and extra contribution to SMLE for m22 might be my swansong gift to the community if life events take over. We'll see.

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[Flatlyner1]

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First and foremost, you both are scholars and gentlemen for providing the community with this. I thank you both very much!

I have a couple questions I was hoping you could help with.

1 - I do know that you have suggested entering in the entire draft, however, one week 1 I generally go from top to bottom and favorite the players that actually have a chance of being drafted by me. Some are just immediately eliminated. Thus, my question would be, how drastically will this effect thier Scout and Value at Pick scores if I am just inputting those that I'm considering?

2 - Since I'm only adding in guys that I'm considering drafting, does it throw off anything if I am typing in their actual number in the "Week 1 Pick" column. Essentially, if I have no interest in the top 3 guys and am starting with the 4th ranked guy, does it throw anything off if I just change that 1 to a 4 (since he's the 4th ranked prospect and I will not being filling in the 1st ranked guy). Just an example but it would help me to do this.

Many thanks again fellas.

[Mattanite]

Re: M22 Scouting Tool

First and foremost, you both are scholars and gentlemen for providing the community with this. I thank you both very much!



I have a couple questions I was hoping you could help with.



1 - I do know that you have suggested entering in the entire draft, however, one week 1 I generally go from top to bottom and favorite the players that actually have a chance of being drafted by me. Some are just immediately eliminated. Thus, my question would be, how drastically will this effect thier Scout and Value at Pick scores if I am just inputting those that I'm considering?



2 - Since I'm only adding in guys that I'm considering drafting, does it throw off anything if I am typing in their actual number in the "Week 1 Pick" column. Essentially, if I have no interest in the top 3 guys and am starting with the 4th ranked guy, does it throw anything off if I just change that 1 to a 4 (since he's the 4th ranked prospect and I will not being filling in the 1st ranked guy). Just an example but it would help me to do this.



Many thanks again fellas.

So if you're entering them at the right spot it helps I.e. 4th ranked player entered on line 4 instead of line 1. The draft value at projection will be ok.

The ScoutScore rank will be affected as it won't compare all players within a draft range. As ScoutScore rank is affected then both the good/bad/ok value projection tool and the tool for telling you round to draft will be out. The Scoutscore itself uses projected draft range as the base so won't be affected by your method.

Conclusion: you'll lose some help with valuations but overall the tool is still use able with your method.

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[Flatlyner1]

Re: M22 Scouting Tool

So what if I just update both the numbers in the first 2 columns. Will it still act as if he is projected as the first overall pick rather then the 4th? thank u bro

[SpectreBugg]

Re: M22 Scouting Tool

everything is working great except the scouting cards for comparing players. For some reason, the "group" drop down menu is blank, and it seems to be preventing me from using the feature. the position list is fine, but without the group list, it seems to not fill in the player names for selection, and subsequently nothing else in the card will fill. I've tried just entering the group manually, but the page shoots an error when i do that. Any suggestions on what the issue might be? fwiw, im using office excell 2019. Appreciate any help you could provide. This is a great tool btw. excellent job on it.