I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

[CujoMatty]

Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

I like that to some people it's a user sucks issue except for the fact my team is also picking off the cpu in the exact same ridiculous ways 4 times a game as well. The AI needs to get gud I guess too.

[GoJags904]

Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

That would require admitting that it's upon the USER to change how he plays and my guess is he, and many others, don't really want to exert that mental effort.



Thus the central issue to Madden. Fans want change, they beg for it, but when they get it then they lament it.



Careful what you wish for...

Man please. The call for change is geared toward realism. If u don't get off that broken high horse ur trying to mount lol. I can learn to break madden but that's not the "talent/skill" I want to achieve for success. I want realism and as close to preciseness as possible. Especially with a direction passing feature that isn't letting me actual direct my throws and throw types correctly. Enjoy ur thrill of skill you want to believe in.

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[GoJags904]

Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

We need more videos, honesty. I think we can all admit that defenders are catching too many balls that hit them in the hands, but if you're throwing 25 interceptions over 10 games then there's likely plenty of user error there also.

So far we've had 3 videos posted, and 2 of them were user errors and the other was a weird play where the WR just stopped on a slant.

I honestly think if everyone was posting videos that the vast majority of picks being thrown would be attributed to user error be it a bad decision, the wrong throw type, being late, etc. I could be wrong, but this thread almost feels like it's hit its limit on how useful it can be until we start posting videos and learn from it. As of right now the conversation is just going in circles and only fueling frustrations for those that are having issues turning the ball over.

And I really don't want to come off like I'm better than everyone else in my posts. I was a turnover machine in the beta, but I've gotten used to the game and the more realistic passing windows and am not having interception issues at all anymore.

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I'm still waiting on my user error elaboration. I'm patient

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[toodles2you90]

Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

I like that to some people it's a user sucks issue except for the fact my team is also picking off the cpu in the exact same ridiculous ways 4 times a game as well. The AI needs to get gud I guess too.

What difficulty? I definitely don’t see that on all-madden. I basically have to user the DB to get them to even go for the INT. I also set coaching adjustment to swat.

[GoJags904]

Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

3rd vid seemed like a bad throw but the first 2 we’re exactly why i made this thread.

Just ridiculous bs


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In trying to understand why throwing over the lb and in front of the Safety is considered a bad throw on this board. Especially considering the NFL mechanics tutors here lol. What makes a throw 5 yards over a lb and in front of a safety a bad one. Not based on madden coding because clearly the ball went where EA wanted, but football wise I'm itching for that answer.

I can post vids of Trevor doing it more than once so it's not impossible.

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[Housh123]

Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

What difficulty? I definitely don’t see that on all-madden. I basically have to user the DB to get them to even go for the INT. I also set coaching adjustment to swat.

Iv seen a couple ppl allude to this and i haven’t played even 1 minute outside of all madden and my team is definitely not getting picks like this. And i ALWAYS switch to the DB and try and user plays. I actually got a user lurk before my computer picked a pass off. The int my computer was definitely ridiculous tho. Mike Hilton VS Diontae Johnson on a straight streak route and Hilton WHO IS BEAT, jumps up and picks it from behind, on a pass that wasn’t under thrown.


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[mixxx01]

Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

Sorry man completely disagree with you, this is BY FAR the most realistic Madden to date from passing running tackling etc.... I'm not saying this about you but sometimes people want more "realism" and when they get it they complain about it being to hard [emoji1745]. Anyways I hope they don't change much.

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Yup clearly people don’t know how to play. I wish we were all as good as you and could stop 60 over corners from making Superman like interceptions. Tell us what’s your secret?


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[tcnumba10]

Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

I was experiencing this when I first played the game but now that I’ve gotten better I don’t see any ridiculous picks anymore unless I throw into heavy coverage, user mistake.

What I do also now the minimize picks is that I press L1 (high pass) while I throw lobs (tap receiver button) to ensure it’s actually a high/lob to a receiver for an over the shoulder catch.

TBH I hardly use the L2 free-foam passing, I’m a newb to the game and I’m still getting comfortable with the controls, but I’m making all the necessary throws without using the free-foam passing anyways.

[PVarck31]

Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

I was experiencing this when I first played the game but now that I’ve gotten better I don’t see any ridiculous picks anymore unless I throw into heavy coverage, user mistake.

What I do also now the minimize picks is that I press L1 (high pass) while I throw lobs (tap receiver button) to ensure it’s actually a high/lob to a receiver for an over the shoulder catch.

TBH I hardly use the L2 free-foam passing, I’m a newb to the game and I’m still getting comfortable with the controls, but I’m making all the necessary throws without using the free-foam passing anyways.

So you're using classic passing? I've noticed this issue is much less pronounced on classic passing, but I still feel like I can control where the ball goes pretty well.

I did lower CPU pass defense and have INT's at 0. If that's what it takes, then it's fine by me.

[canes21]

Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

I'm still waiting on my user error elaboration. I'm patient

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I already covered the first pass and you admitted the QB was inaccurate on the pass. I'd like to know where you were aiming that pass because if you were trying to throw it underneath the WR then that would explain why he cut down initially even with the overthrow. The WR breaks on where the pass is aimed, not where it actually ends up.

The second pass we all know was wonky with the WR just stopping.

The third pass was right into traffic. I understand what you said you were aiming for with the D in the end zone, but you threw a high risk with poor trajectory right at a defender that was in zone staring at the QB. That pick was 100% logical. I get you said it was a high level NFL throw that you feel had a window of opportunity, but Brett Favre also had about 400 throws he made where he saw a window of opportunity.

[toodles2you90]

Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

I’ve only been able to play 1 game so far. Short 5min quarters. Picked off the cpu 5 out of their 6 drives on All Madden. Just 1 game though.

You did or your CPU did? I had 1 game where I picked off 6 but 4 of them were user lurked. I think the most I’ve had any other game was 2 though.

[The 24th Letter]

I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

I just got the game today.

Spent probably about 2 hours combined in practice mode, I primarily use free form passing

and honestly, it feels GREAT…TBH I feel DB’s are tuned the way they are because it could potentially become OP once people get the hang of it. You can absolutely dot

Seeing the feedback here, I’m kind of surprised at how little interceptions I’ve thrown….H2H or vs. the CPU. Expected to be turning the ball over left and right.

I’m not saying there aren’t validity to the complaints, but it’s Day what? 4 at the most for most for some? I can already see the potential in this system, My suggestion is to keep plugging away at it. Once it clicks , it’s rewarding.

You really have to think about where you are putting the ball

[sterfry1994]

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Does anybody know how to throw low passes while having the new skill based passing on as well? I’m not sure how to do it with L2/LT now being for free-form passing.

In past Maddens I’ve been a big user of using the low pass modifier to avoid interceptions on slants, curls, and routes in the flat. I can’t figure out how to do that now which stinks.

[Hooe]

I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

I'm still waiting on my user error elaboration. I'm patient

I’ll bite.

On 1 (Gun Doubles Slants / Spot vs Cover 1 Hole), your tight end stops because there was a safety literally in his way. Your receiver is not allowed to run through a defender. Additionally, this was an obvious Cover 1 Hole look pre-snap; you probably could have audibled out of this play to give yourself a better concept on the two-receiver side than double slants. A slot whip route would have likely scored. You had the right idea going to an out-breaking route, but the Jaguars don’t have a tight end who can consistently win one-on-one (all of Evan Engram’s route running ratings are no better than 75 on the base roster). Additionally he is at a leverage disadvantage against the safety for running a corner route because he is aligned as an in-line Y. That’s a tough route for him to win.

On 2 (Ace Wing Pair Stick vs Goal Line): your wide receiver stops because you aimed the pass reticle right on his current position. If the receiver kept running, he would over-run the ball and the pass would end up sailing behind him. You need to put the ball in front of the receiver so he can run through the catch. When running slants against off man coverage, I find it helpful to to use Skill Based Passing to move the reticle towards the line of scrimmage and to the inside, as to prevent an off-man DB from jumping the route as he does here. Additionally, your wing TE was wide open for a touchdown in the flat, no one is manned up on him. And lastly, this is a really terribly run slant route by Kirk? I think you got a bad ratings dice roll. It happens.

On 3 (Gun Empty Stick at the goal line): Etienne running the slot slant is simply not open. Even worse the throw is late. There are three defenders around him, he is blanketed. This ball should have never been thrown. This one is trickier to read pre-snap because the defense shows single high but then rotates to Cover 2 Invert post-snap. Throwing against Cover 2 in the red zone is difficult, the windows are much tighter. #17 kinda screws you over here as well by sitting down instead of optioning to an out route on the play call. Generally, I don’t like running empty in the red zone because I want to be able to check into a run play if I see a favorable front. No one is covering the #2 receiver on the strong side running to the flat; not sure if you caught the defense mid-audible or what, but throwing that route hot was probably the best option (I admit I don’t really like that either though, I think he just ends up out of bounds at best).

[ajra21]

Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

I'm getting daft picks on all levels. I've dropped all the way to Pro level so I can have some semblance of fun. Still getting picked for no reason.



Still having fun despite the obvious problems.