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  • British Bronco
    Rookie
    • Jun 2009
    • 231

    #136
    Re: Madden NFL 23 Patch #3 Available – Patch Notes

    Just tested a 10 year sim with 32 team control and coach firing ON. No custom draft file.

    I'm afraid it is as before. I didn't even have to play a game. All 32 real coaches had been fired. I went to retire one so I could create a new character and the game instantly crashed and could not be recovered.

    I will now test 32 team control with coach firing OFF and this time download a custom draft file.
    What would Blackie Lawless do?

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    • Darkwolf90
      Rookie
      • Jun 2012
      • 238

      #137
      Re: Madden NFL 23 Patch #3 Available – Patch Notes

      Not sure if this has been noted but at least in the uniform select screen the Jets Alternate Helmet doesn't show up as black, it still shows as the default green.

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      • Error1355
        Rookie
        • Oct 2007
        • 26

        #138
        Re: Madden NFL 23 Patch #3 Available – Patch Notes

        Originally posted by British Bronco
        Just tested a 10 year sim with 32 team control and coach firing ON. No custom draft file.

        I'm afraid it is as before. I didn't even have to play a game. All 32 real coaches had been fired. I went to retire one so I could create a new character and the game instantly crashed and could not be recovered.

        I will now test 32 team control with coach firing OFF and this time download a custom draft file.
        Amazing that this is still broken after multiple games. Oh well I'll just continue keeping head coach firing off and control every team. :/

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        • TDKing
          MVP
          • Feb 2003
          • 1845

          #139
          Re: Madden NFL 23 - Title Update 3 Now Available

          Originally posted by guff
          Online franchise



          First season



          Generated draft class



          I played as lions, had 2x 1st rd picks (lions have their own and the rams) didn't like many of of the 1st round prospects so traded down a lot and didn't pick until the 30th pick. When it booted me, it took me all the way back to pick 18
          So is it trading during the draft that causes the problem?


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          • Falcon17000
            Rookie
            • Nov 2016
            • 346

            #140
            Re: Madden NFL 23 Patch #3 Available – Patch Notes

            Confirming what others have said, the long-term Franchise corruption seems to stem from lack of coaches. The game doesn't generate new ones, and eventually runs out of usuable coaches and crashes around the 8-10 year mark.


            Turning off coach firing isn't ideal, but my (admittedly small) testing seems to show it working without having to control any other teams.

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            • MattyIce
              Pro
              • Apr 2012
              • 968

              #141
              Re: Madden NFL 23 Patch #3 Available – Patch Notes

              Looks like more shoes in than originally reported but many are glitched. It shows a few extra Nikes and Jordan’s but I wish we could see them.


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              • British Bronco
                Rookie
                • Jun 2009
                • 231

                #142
                Re: Madden NFL 23 Patch #3 Available – Patch Notes

                This is the post I just submitted in the EA bug thread. It contains the results of tonight's experiments. As it turns out EA_Kent has popped up again to ask how the bug is. So we may have their attention.

                Thanks for the updates on this, everyone.  I appreciate you testing this to see if it's still happening for you after today's update. Has anyone else... - 8941441


                Hi EA Kent



                Thanks for checking in.



                I can confirm the franchise bug is still present. The game will let you play multiple seasons. But the game will then crash at some point in the future after you have completed a played game.



                There appear to be two triggers

                1. Not enough league coaches after a period of time.

                2. Custom draft files.



                Here are my controlled experiments I ran today after the patch.



                1. 32 team control and Coach Firing OFF. I advanced the game by 10 seasons and played the superbowl. Game was fine and allowed me to carry on. Although it's not very immersive to see the same 32 coaches there after a decade and defeats the purpose of coach firing etc.



                2. 32 team control and Coach Firing ON. I advanced the game by 10 seasons and could not even play the SB. All 32 coaches had been fired and the moment I went to select one to retire him, the game crashed.



                3. 32 team control and Coach Firing OFF and I used a custom draft file from the community for the 2023 draft. I advanced the game by 10 seasons. Played the SB to the end. Finished the game. Game immediately crashed. It gave the chance to submit a bug report which I did. I named you EA Kent in the description. My PS profile name is Joneseythecat044. I submitted the error log about 10 minutes ago - 2335 approx UK time, which is 1835 Florida time.



                You and your devs should be able to recreate this problem fairly easily. Just run the same controlled experiments I did.



                Please fix this as soon as possible. It is not fair to offer players the chance to play multiple seasons and then watch as the game crashes and they loose a franchise they have been working on for ages.



                Thank you.
                Last edited by British Bronco; 10-13-2022, 06:51 PM.
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                • British Bronco
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 231

                  #143
                  Re: Madden NFL 23 Patch #3 Available – Patch Notes

                  NB It might be worth other people trying to replicate the 32 team control "fix/workaround".

                  I'd hate people to start long term franchises using 32 team control, coach firing OFF and no custom draft classes only to find another heartbreaking bug further down the line....

                  As I am on the PS5 it really would be good if an XBOX user could try the same experiment. It takes less than an hour.
                  What would Blackie Lawless do?

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                  • Momoney168
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2021
                    • 584

                    #144
                    Re: Madden NFL 23 Patch #3 Available – Patch Notes

                    Originally posted by British Bronco
                    NB It might be worth other people trying to replicate the 32 team control "fix/workaround".



                    I'd hate people to start long term franchises using 32 team control, coach firing OFF and no custom draft classes only to find another heartbreaking bug further down the line....



                    As I am on the PS5 it really would be good if an XBOX user could try the same experiment. It takes less than an hour.


                    So something I do is take 32 team only during the preseason. Coach firing is tied to the goal set week 1. By default cpu goes with make playoffs which is why so many coaches get fired early. But this allows me to set each teams goal at a reasonable level (along with preseason scenarios to develop young players around the league). After week 1 I retire each character but the goal sticks. In 22 I made it 7 seasons offline without issues. Probably not a total workaround but it works for me so far.


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                    • Tweeg
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1414

                      #145
                      Re: Madden NFL 23 Patch #3 Available – Patch Notes

                      Originally posted by Falcon17000
                      Confirming what others have said, the long-term Franchise corruption seems to stem from lack of coaches. The game doesn't generate new ones, and eventually runs out of usuable coaches and crashes around the 8-10 year mark.


                      Turning off coach firing isn't ideal, but my (admittedly small) testing seems to show it working without having to control any other teams.
                      What if we just create a new coach whenever one gets fired, and then “retire” from the team? They’ll now have the newly created coach without having to hire from the diminishing pool, and we don’t have to resort to controlling every team.
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                      • jfsolo
                        Live Action, please?
                        • May 2003
                        • 12965

                        #146
                        Re: Madden NFL 23 Patch #3 Available – Patch Notes

                        Some gameplay impressions after 3 games on All-Madden:

                        It was always in the game, but was invisible to the User, they added a visible tackle battle "A" button for the User team. With that, the tackle battle "Win" animation sequence seems to have been smoothed out, it's less janky now.

                        Regular tackle interactions seem to have been refined as well. The range on the dive tackle still need to be shorten as well, it's the one really bad tackle still in the game IMO.

                        As everyone has noticed the of course fixed the Interception slider, but they did more than that. Defenders play the ball exponentially more realistically now, so they aren't even in position most of the time to make a crazy INT. Picks and PBUs are earned now.

                        Along with that CPU QB decision making is much better too, they attempt very few of those super wild automatic INT type throws now, and on the rare occasion that they do almost every one falls to the ground harmlessly.

                        Playcalling for the CPU offenses seems more diverse too, I saw a lot of plays that I haven't seen from them before. I feel like there is a good balance between deep balls, medium range passes, and check downs.

                        It still needs to be tuned to allow use to greatly increase the frequency of them, but I had 3 holding calls against me in the last game, including one on the game tying 2 point conversion.
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                        • exhiilarate
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 24

                          #147
                          Re: Madden NFL 23 Patch #3 Available – Patch Notes

                          I'm very bummed that they didn't even get the jets black helmets into the game anyone else seeing this issue besides me?

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                          • JoeRodgers1175
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2020
                            • 268

                            #148
                            Re: Madden NFL 23 Patch #3 Available – Patch Notes

                            I tested free agency once with salary cap on. Top two free agents after the 2023 season were Nick Bosa and Justin Herbert. So, no, free agency was not fixed.

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                            • kennylc321
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2018
                              • 916

                              #149
                              Re: Madden NFL 23 - Title Update 3 Now Available

                              Originally posted by beeryooper
                              Just curious why this matters? It’s weird but doesn’t affect anything? I wouldn’t not play this game because of it.
                              People have the most interesting things that set them off. All I can say is whatever floats their boats

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                              • bcruise
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 23274

                                #150
                                Re: Madden NFL 23 Patch #3 Available – Patch Notes

                                Originally posted by jfsolo
                                Some gameplay impressions after 3 games on All-Madden:



                                It was always in the game, but was invisible to the User, they added a visible tackle battle "A" button for the User team. With that, the tackle battle "Win" animation sequence seems to have been smoothed out, it's less janky now.



                                Regular tackle interactions seem to have been refined as well. The range on the dive tackle still need to be shorten as well, it's the one really bad tackle still in the game IMO.



                                As everyone has noticed the of course fixed the Interception slider, but they did more than that. Defenders play the ball exponentially more realistically now, so they aren't even in position most of the time to make a crazy INT. Picks and PBUs are earned now.



                                Along with that CPU QB decision making is much better too, they attempt very few of those super wild automatic INT type throws now, and on the rare occasion that they do almost every one falls to the ground harmlessly.



                                Playcalling for the CPU offenses seems more diverse too, I saw a lot of plays that I haven't seen from them before. I feel like there is a good balance between deep balls, medium range passes, and check downs.



                                It still needs to be tuned to allow use to greatly increase the frequency of them, but I had 3 holding calls against me in the last game, including one on the game tying 2 point conversion.
                                I did throw a like on this, but I just want to elaborate and say I really appreciate the post patch gameplay impressions. I still have time left on my trial and am still on the fence about purchasing.

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