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  • LBzrule
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    • Jul 2002
    • 13085

    #16
    Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

    That looks pretty damn good. He alluded to no suction tackling so here's hoping that there is no suction blocking either.

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    • SageInfinite
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      • Jul 2002
      • 11896

      #17
      Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

      Originally posted by ODogg
      My favorite part of the entire article:

      We have also eliminated the "explosion" phenomenon when the game couldn't find a tackle animation in time and characters bang off each other and both fall down.

      YES!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!

      And I just watched the video - dang, it does look great, this could be the most responsive Madden in a long time from looking at those clips. No suction either from those clips, hopefully the whole game is like that (esp. on defense too).
      I got a huge smile on my face when I read that.
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      • SageInfinite
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        • Jul 2002
        • 11896

        #18
        Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

        Originally posted by ODogg
        perhaps because you haven't played 08 much? i dunno, i could def. tell a huge difference.
        Yea 08 looked nowhere near as good as that. The running, the tackling, the jukes,the graphics,player models, all looked way better.
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        • ODogg
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          • Feb 2003
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          #19
          Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

          Originally posted by LBzrule
          That looks pretty damn good. He alluded to no suction tackling so here's hoping that there is no suction blocking either.
          If that is the case I know you will be like a hog in mud heaven cuz that's been your pet peeve for years Lbz.
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          • SageInfinite
            Stop The GOAT Talk
            • Jul 2002
            • 11896

            #20
            Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

            Originally posted by LBzrule
            That looks pretty damn good. He alluded to no suction tackling so here's hoping that there is no suction blocking either.
            If LB likes it, then it's money.
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            • PVarck31
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              • Jan 2003
              • 16869

              #21
              Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

              WOW. If anyone tries to complain about this and say it doesn't look amazing they are getting 10 infractions lol

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              • SageInfinite
                Stop The GOAT Talk
                • Jul 2002
                • 11896

                #22
                Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

                Originally posted by pjv31
                WOW. If anyone tries to complain about this and say it doesn't look amazing they are getting 10 infractions lol
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                • stmark
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                  • Sep 2007
                  • 173

                  #23
                  Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

                  i saw at least two face mask tackles in that vid i hope they call those this year....i cant stop watching......i love it

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                  • djordan
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 3052

                    #24
                    Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

                    Originally posted by ODogg
                    perhaps because you haven't played 08 much? i dunno, i could def. tell a huge difference.
                    i played 08 daily...

                    I will watch the video again at work on a better PC because my home PC was laggin the video..lol
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                    • JBucc
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 517

                      #25
                      Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

                      That was great. The finally got the look of the game right. Good player models, good lighting, good textures and stadiums. Definitely the best looking football game to date.

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                      • LBzrule
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 13085

                        #26
                        Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

                        Originally posted by ODogg
                        If that is the case I know you will be like a hog in mud heaven cuz that's been your pet peeve for years Lbz.
                        Well if there is no suction blocking that means I can finally take my place in the middle of the D rather than playing Safety and yeah I'd be a hog in mud heaven if I can have fun playing in there.

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                        • Nza
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 3437

                          #27
                          Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

                          Are the 'camera shakes' in the game, or did he add those for emphasis? they actually make a considerable impact IMO and without them the video wouldn't be the same.

                          I'm not meaning to be negative but I'm not seeing the differences very easily. Can someone sum them up? At slightly after half way through, Andre Carter tackles Vince Young with that ball strip attempt/potential 15y face mask penalty tackle that has been in the series since Madden 05 or so. How is this different now? and if it isn't, why is it in this video?

                          All the animations are nice, but I see nothing there that tells me this is a different animation system. I see little to no real gang tackles. I see absolutely no example of the engine handling momentum and velocity like a true engine should. I see no rag doll. I still see defenders bounce off tackles (e.g. Brandon Jacobs vs Pats about a quarter through). Every animation there could have been pre-rendered. For all we know, they just made a whole heap of new pre-determined animations and improved the system to load more suitable ones, as well as break animations when a new one is trying to be instigated. This is fine, but it isn't an ideal tackling engine.

                          When EA can happily proclaim "never see the same tackle twice" in Madden, then I'll be impressed. That marketing line is the true calling card of a proper animation system by today's gaming standards and funnily enough is starting to emmerge in most EA games that actually have competition.
                          Last edited by Nza; 05-15-2008, 12:17 AM.

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                          • djordan
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 3052

                            #28
                            Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

                            Originally posted by Nza

                            I'm not meaning to be negative but I'm not seeing the differences very easily. Can someone sum them up? At slightly after half way through, Andre Carter tackles Vince Young with that ball strip attempt/potential 15y face mask penalty tackle that has been in the series since Madden 05 or so. How is this different now? and if it isn't, why is it in this video?
                            Co-sign..thats what im saying....
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                            • stmark
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 173

                              #29
                              Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

                              Here comes the complaining give it a rest you dont like it dont look at it or buy it enjoy the video they improved a system in one year give credit where its due no video game will ever be perfect......live in the now wooooooooosaaaaaaaa

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                              • adub88
                                Pro
                                • May 2003
                                • 964

                                #30
                                Re: New Blog And Video (Tackling Engine)

                                Originally posted by ODogg
                                My favorite part of the entire article:

                                We have also eliminated the "explosion" phenomenon when the game couldn't find a tackle animation in time and characters bang off each other and both fall down.

                                YES!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!

                                And I just watched the video - dang, it does look great, this could be the most responsive Madden in a long time from looking at those clips. No suction either from those clips, hopefully the whole game is like that (esp. on defense too).
                                I was about to say the same thing. Thanks goodness to the end of players falling like bowling pins.
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