Madden 09: Tackling Engine Blog & Video

[Vadiplomat04]

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My issue is that it's rare in the game. What I saw most of the time was the 2nd defender "exploding". The 2nd defender rarely engages in the tackle. So that's one wasted defender on the ground when in actuality, he had an advantage over the ball carrier because he was wrapped up. When that tackle is broken, and you know you had a 2nd defender there that should have finished things off, it can get frustrating.

I don't use the hit stick and I found that though I had control of the 2nd defender, he would rarely engage in the tackle like I commanded. But it's the CPU defenders I'm really talking about. Most of the time I'm the 1st tackler in since I control the closest defender to the ball. My CPU help ends up on the ground or watching. I think we agree, no?

The blog also states it has elimated the "exploding" players issue...so that might be something that could help sovle the 2nd defender issue.

[BrianFifaFan]

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Tiburon really wanted too add 'coach arguing' this year but there wasnt time with all the cars, and light poles that had to be modeled for the stadium exterior shots

:wink:

[BezO]

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The blog also states it has elimated the "exploding" players issue...so that might be something that could help sovle the 2nd defender issue.

I'm hoping. But in the same vid, I saw an explosion on a sideline tackle. There's still time. If they're claiming to have solved the problem, maybe they plan on cleaning it up before release. But making a claim and not showing the proof in the vid is not encouraging. I expected to see a ton of multi-player tackles after reading the blog.

[countryboy]

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Alright boys(girls?) now its time for a comment from a fan of Madden/EA to say something. And that something is......so-so.

The graphics are gorgeous, the lighting is beautiful and the new animations are great, but the video is nothing more than a highlight reel of one on one tackles. Hard to say. I was expecting to see more than just one on one tackles. The video gives you some things to like, but also gives you some things to ponder. Why no gang tackles? Why do defenders seem to still run at the ball carrier with "no agenda"?

I know its early and all, but here's chance that EA could've swept me off my feet, but only managed to make me smile and hope. I like what was mentioned in the blog, I really do, but words are words and actions are actions.

Now we all know that as sure as daylight will turn to night that I am going to buy this game, but I really didn't get that Wow! feeling from this video.

[JRod]

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There are gang tackles in Madden that involve three people. Im saying if you have more then 2 people talking one player, some players are going to either a) just pile on the back of the defender (like in your picture) or b) knock off their own defender. Now if you watch the video your notice that the player are more aware of tackles and react better the tackles. The video also shows that when a player gets hit into another player that reaction is more realistic. I don't know what you want from this game, but you can't say that EA isn't trying their hardest to improve on the engine.

This is a lie. I watched the video and did not see one 3 man tackle. Not a tackle where one guys in in the process of making a tackle but falls off, while two other guys make a two-man tackle.

3 man tackles are not in the game. A sequence of three men trying to tackle the player is in the game. But it's a 3 man tackle just by sequence.

[SageInfinite]

Re: Madden 09: Tackling Engine Blog & Video

Alright boys(girls?) now its time for a comment from a fan of Madden/EA to say something. And that something is......so-so.

The graphics are gorgeous, the lighting is beautiful and the new animations are great, but the video is nothing more than a highlight reel of one on one tackles. Hard to say. I was expecting to see more than just one on one tackles. The video gives you some things to like, but also gives you some things to ponder. Why no gang tackles? Why do defenders seem to still run at the ball carrier with "no agenda"?

I know its early and all, but here's chance that EA could've swept me off my feet, but only managed to make me smile and hope. I like what was mentioned in the blog, I really do, but words are words and actions are actions.

Now we all know that as sure as daylight will turn to night that I am going to buy this game, but I really didn't get that Wow! feeling from this video.

I was waiting for you to chime in cb.

[FlyingFinn]

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As I said....two defenders have hold of him but once you get more then 2 or 3 there just tackleing each other.

No, they are changing momentum, preventing forward progress. Just like O-lineman are suppose to do from behind to push the pile forward. Neither of which exists in Madden.

[countryboy]

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I was waiting for you to chime in cb.

For better or for worse, you knew it was coming..

[marktg30]

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Doesn't look right to me.... Since when does Tomlinson get tackled?!



LOL

[Scott]

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Marion Barber going down on the first chance? Totally Unrealistic

[Rawdeal28]

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Its a bit suprising how easily some people are swayed or impressed. That is exactly why EA has started advertising so early this year. Considering their track record on the 360/PS3, there is NOWAY I am getting my hopes up or commiting to buying this thing. Its kinda like "tackling looks a bit better..... Im buying it!!!" Did we forget about all the bugs/glitches that infested 08? One thing that has been missing from Madden forever animation-wise, that I think there is no excuse for, is a tripping/stumbling animation. How many times in a game do you almost see a LB get juked, but he sticks out his hand and barely is able to trip the runner up......or a back is going around the edge and just loses his footing and stumbles. it happens almost every play, but you never see it "in the game".

shut da hell up man. just because we like what we see and u dont, doesnt make us "easily swayed". me and millions of others will u buy it. since u dont like it. dont buy it. spare us the grumble u and others always come on these madden boards to preach.

every damn thread is the same thing. go play the other games u have in ur library and leave madden alone.

[ODogg]

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shut da hell up man. just because we like what we see and u dont, doesnt make us "easily swayed". me and millions of others will u buy it. since u dont like it. dont buy it. spare us the grumble u and others always come on these madden boards to preach.

every damn thread is the same thing. go play the other games u have in ur library and leave madden alone.

Amen man! Just because we may have differing opinions than you does not mean we can't think for ourselves. Ridiculous.

[scourge]

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I guess I'm one of the few who is unimpressed.


First off the graphics are awesome and the new animations are great. But there is way too much bumping into each other tackles. Almost no wrapping guys up. And when they do seem to wrap guys up they roll right off them when they go down.

Its not a big deal but I'm tired of guys hitting like bumper cars. Oh and all the gang tackling others mentioned.

Oh well, I'm still very excited for this years game.

[scourge]

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shut da hell up man. just because we like what we see and u dont, doesnt make us "easily swayed". me and millions of others will u buy it. since u dont like it. dont buy it. spare us the grumble u and others always come on these madden boards to preach.

every damn thread is the same thing. go play the other games u have in ur library and leave madden alone.

I thought the point of forums was to have discussions

[ODogg]

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I thought the point of forums was to have discussions

it's just a tired arguement that's played out is all..