Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

[xxzone]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

<TABLE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; WIDTH: 90%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=75><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=50 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=37></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: center 50%; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/07.gif); WIDTH: 1px; HEIGHT: 24px" vAlign=center width="100%">Quote:</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD align=left></TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/09.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 24px" vAlign=center noWrap align=left width="100%">Originally Posted by xxzone</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD align=right width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/11.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 24px" width="100%"></TD><TD align=left></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/04.gif); WIDTH: 37px; HEIGHT: 1px" width=37></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/00.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 1px" width="100%"></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/05.gif); WIDTH: 18px; HEIGHT: 1px" width=18></TD></TR><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/04.gif); WIDTH: 37px; HEIGHT: 1px" width=37></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/00.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 1px" width="100%">That "yeah yeah you didn't have to run out an buy it" argument is tired man! They brought this all upon themselves by taking the cowards way out and making it so they had zero competition in the market.
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so is the argument that someone has "wasted money again on a Madden game" or the "Madden stole my money" or the argument that you reference above.

No that is the reply to people defending the game and thier main argument being "no one forced you to purchase it"



<TABLE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; WIDTH: 90%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=75><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=50 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=37></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: center 50%; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/07.gif); WIDTH: 1px; HEIGHT: 24px" vAlign=center width="100%">Quote:</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD align=left></TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/09.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 24px" vAlign=center noWrap align=left width="100%">Originally Posted by xxzone</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD align=right width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/11.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 24px" width="100%"></TD><TD align=left></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/04.gif); WIDTH: 37px; HEIGHT: 1px" width=37></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/00.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 1px" width="100%"></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/05.gif); WIDTH: 18px; HEIGHT: 1px" width=18></TD></TR><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/04.gif); WIDTH: 37px; HEIGHT: 1px" width=37></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/00.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 1px" width="100%">So yeah....I was kinda forced into purchasing/renting the game if I wanted any new NFL experience this year, so I'm going to vent as much as I see fit due to EA wanting to be the head NFL @##%# and them not coming even close to living up to what they should be.
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Ok, this made me laugh. "forced into purchasing/renting the game"? What kind of marketing is EA using these days.

I love how 2-3 people quoted the above section of my post & then totally neglected that "If I wanted any new NFL experience this year". That's kind of an important part of the sentence, but everyone decides to exclude that part.

Now I understand how people get misquoted in the press all the time. Yeah it is a funny statement if the bold ed text was the entire sentence, but it wasn't.

The fact remains, if you want a new NFL experience this year you have only one choice. Read the entire post and answer in context to that. Yeah I liked 2k...I'd like any competition at this point. Fact remains both their football games freeze, but apparently that's OK now a days. People have accepted it, so it's not going to change. So who's more at fault, EA or the consumer who buys it and acts like nothing is wrong? "These things happen" seems to fix everything now a days.

I rented the game so I'm lucky. I just send it back to gamefly instead of keeping it. I haven't purchased an EA product since the exclusive deal, and this kind of product isn't going to break that streak.

[davidandjordan]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

I'm not sure how I can be excited about this patch if I still can't go through 2 years of franchise mode without it crashing and burning.

[countryboy]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

<TABLE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; WIDTH: 90%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=75><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=50 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=37></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: center 50%; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/07.gif); WIDTH: 1px; HEIGHT: 24px" vAlign=center width="100%">Quote:</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD align=left></TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/09.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 24px" vAlign=center noWrap align=left width="100%">Originally Posted by xxzone</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD align=right width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/11.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 24px" width="100%"></TD><TD align=left></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/04.gif); WIDTH: 37px; HEIGHT: 1px" width=37></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/00.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 1px" width="100%"></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/05.gif); WIDTH: 18px; HEIGHT: 1px" width=18></TD></TR><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/04.gif); WIDTH: 37px; HEIGHT: 1px" width=37></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/00.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 1px" width="100%">That "yeah yeah you didn't have to run out an buy it" argument is tired man! They brought this all upon themselves by taking the cowards way out and making it so they had zero competition in the market.
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so is the argument that someone has "wasted money again on a Madden game" or the "Madden stole my money" or the argument that you reference above.

No that is the reply to people defending the game and thier main argument being "no one forced you to purchase it"



<TABLE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; WIDTH: 90%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=75><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=50 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=37></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: center 50%; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/07.gif); WIDTH: 1px; HEIGHT: 24px" vAlign=center width="100%">Quote:</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD align=left></TD><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/09.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 24px" vAlign=center noWrap align=left width="100%">Originally Posted by xxzone</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD align=right width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/11.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 24px" width="100%"></TD><TD align=left></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/04.gif); WIDTH: 37px; HEIGHT: 1px" width=37></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/00.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 1px" width="100%"></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/05.gif); WIDTH: 18px; HEIGHT: 1px" width=18></TD></TR><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/04.gif); WIDTH: 37px; HEIGHT: 1px" width=37></TD><TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/00.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 1px" width="100%">So yeah....I was kinda forced into purchasing/renting the game if I wanted any new NFL experience this year, so I'm going to vent as much as I see fit due to EA wanting to be the head NFL @##%# and them not coming even close to living up to what they should be.
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Ok, this made me laugh. "forced into purchasing/renting the game"? What kind of marketing is EA using these days.

I love how 2-3 people quoted the above section of my post & then totally neglected that "If I wanted any new NFL experience this year". That's kind of an important part of the sentence, but everyone decides to exclude that part.

Now I understand how people get misquoted in the press all the time. Yeah it is a funny statement if the bold ed text was the entire sentence, but it wasn't.

The fact remains, if you want a new NFL experience this year you have only one choice. Read the entire post and answer in context to that. Yeah I liked 2k...I'd like any competition at this point. Fact remains both their football games freeze, but apparently that's OK now a days. People have accepted it, so it's not going to change. So who's more at fault, EA or the consumer who buys it and acts like nothing is wrong? "These things happen" seems to fix everything now a days.

I rented the game so I'm lucky. I just send it back to gamefly instead of keeping it. I haven't purchased an EA product since the exclusive deal, and this kind of product isn't going to break that streak.

Wow, you really took what I said and ran with it didn't you.

I meant nothing personal towards you in any of my comments, just a) stating my observation on the arguments back and forth and b) just having a laugh at what I bolded in your comment.

Thats it man. Sorry if that came across as a personal attack at you, it really wasn't meant that way.

[stux]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

One of the developers on here said that the ability to do so wasn't actually in the game and joked they would have to "patch it in." I think that having EA server support for patches and DLC is an underrated item for the 2010 wishlist.

There has to be a way to do this as is. Even if you have to use the crappy browser on the system to download a patch and then run it. And for those without internet on the ps3 you should be able to DL the things put it on a USB drive and transer it.

I really do not believe it if they say it isn't possible when you are capable of DL stuff from the internet onto the machine. I am sure they can code something to patch the game from where it DLs to. Think outside the box, don't crawl in it and cry!

[brendanrfoley]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

A slide in this community is needed, for a while this place has been known as the EA *** kissers forums around the web.

I've been a member of these forums for a long, long time -- and I don't remember them ever being an EA love-fest.

[bukeyez]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

I, too, would like to know if the 2nd patch will fix Franhcise mode so it lives up to it's past and allows us to play multiple seasons (10+) without FREEZING. If this has been addressed, I apologize. But it would not hurt for someone to answer our questions concerning Franchise freezing. I am tired of scrolling through threads looking for info and finding nothing but opinions, bickering, complaining and crap talking. I am not a gossip queen and I look to this site for useful information or positive feedback. It seems no matter what, the threads always get off topic. Now, I know it has been stated that FREEZING issues will be addressed in the 2nd patch, BUT there have been multiple kinds of FREEZING issues in the game. SO, I would like to see if I can get it clarified- Will the Franchise FREEZING issue be fixed? Like the post above, I am excited about the Progression being adjusted but it will only matter if you can play multiple seasons! Thank you in advance for your intelligent answers.

Anyone with some insight like to answer my question? Or am I going to have to continue to scroll through endless threads of people whining about what should be! I can recall the same whining and complaining on the EA boards back when the Madden series was debuting on the PS2. Every year, no matter what, people are unsatisfied with Madden. Every year, including Madden 2005- Ray Lewis cover (which in my opinion was Madden at its best) people complained on the forums. People say, every year, that they will not buy Madden again and EA this EA that. It's all B.S. because the majority of those people go cop it the very next year!!!!


Also, FYI, I didn't buy Madden on next gen until last year. I did not buy a Madden game in 2006 or 2007. I backed up my personal feelings and didn't disappoint myself. Last year's game was much improved on next-gen but the Franchise freeze was not cool. Oh well, I had fun playing it for what it was worth. This year, I admit I expected better and for the most part it is a fun game. My concern is Franchise being fixed, which brings me back to my original post and question. Once I know the answer, then I know what to expect and what I need to do to enjoy the game for what it is worth.


Live in reality folks, it is what it is! I have been playing football video games since Atari. From Tecmo Bowl, Super Tecmo Bowl, Madden on Sega Genesis, Joe Montana's football on the PC, Game Day on PS1, Madden on PS1 and PS2, NFL2K on Dreamcast......I liked all those games and had lots of fun playing them! I played them for what they were worth! Madden will get better as it always does in one area or another. Franchise, in my opinion, is the last thing they need to get straight on Next Gen. First, the freezing issues, the progression/regression system and then the minor details like Pro Bowl helmets and SUper Bowl details. Every other aspect in the game has gotten better!


The last little bit of insight I have for you long time Madden fans is, EA has gone after the demands of the younger generation. The younger generation does not know what life is like without a computer and internet access, us Tecmo Bowlers do. There is your marketing gap. EA has put more effort into ONLINE gameplay because the market is pointing toward the younger generation these days! Frankly, there is more demand for online/tournament style MAdden play than Franchise mode in 2008. Madden Challenge- head to head battling! That tournament and T.V. show does not advertise Franchise mode.


Do you see where I'm going with this? The demand has to be there, then they will focus on Franchise mode like they use to. Franchise mode use to be the #1 or #2 attraction when it came to why people buy and play Madden. It is not anymore. It is for me and it is for many, many other Madden die hards but not for the majority of younger gamers. For every person on these forums speaking their mind and voicing their concerns, there are many more who are playing the game online or against their buddies at home and could give a crap less about our venting or our feelings!


If you understand this, then maybe we can take a more positive approach towards getting a product we will be satisfied with. Those are my thoughts for what they are worth. Please- I would like to know if the patch will fix the Franchise freezing. Thank you.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

You're new here, so just a tip.

Break up your text and make it easier to read. I'm willing to say that the reason no one is responding to your post is because it's one block of text.

[bukeyez]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

You're new here, so just a tip.

Break up your text and make it easier to read. I'm willing to say that the reason no one is responding to your post is because it's one block of text.

Thanks for the tip........

[bukeyez]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

You're new here, so just a tip.

Break up your text and make it easier to read. I'm willing to say that the reason no one is responding to your post is because it's one block of text.

I just hope I get a response for someone who feels me. I am not looking to get into a spat or debate with the cheeseballs on these forums. The constant griping and sniping that I have to scroll through on these threads to get info is tiresome.

[Steven123]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

So the game released in Mid-August but I have to wait until Mid-September to actually get a decent experience? That's nice....


Why not just take a little more time to polish the game just in time for the start of the season instead of rushing it out for the preseason, have to patch it anyway, and then wait for Microsoft & Sony's approval? One of the developers made a thread about patch 1 and 2 a couple of days before release, so I'm pretty sure they were aware of the issues.

[Steven123]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

I've been a member of these forums for a long, long time -- and I don't remember them ever being an EA love-fest.

Yeah, I've only started seeing it this year. Probably because EA developers are so nice to be posting on these boards... Anyways, let the *** kissing continue...

[bluengold34_OS]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

I can honestly say as a Mod, I do not look for anyone to kiss EA's backside or any other other developer's backside. I only ask is that they are treated with respect. The same exact respect that we ask for the developer's of The Show in that forum.

By the way, it's the same exact respect that I also ask you to show your fellow posters, and that you get in return. I simply ask that if you have a problem, you handle it with dignity and maturity........and that seems to be a big problem a lot of the time.

The majority of the people who complain about this board being "EA friendly" are the same one's that post " Man, I got !@#$% out of my money, man EA is a piece of a !@#$%#.

Seriously, what does that bring to the conversation, if you have a problem that hasn't been mentioned before, mention it. If you have a gripe, let it be known. All we ask is that you keep it in the proper forums and that there are not a 1000 of the same post's with their own threads.

One final comment..............this board isn't EA friendly, 2k friendly, or Sony friendly. It's simply a site that ask you to be respectful and mature with your post and the way you treat people. If you have a problem with that, or can't conduct yourself in that matter......then please, don't be here.

[brendanrfoley]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

The majority of the people who complain about this board being "EA friendly" are the same one's that post " Man, I got !@#$% out of my money, man EA is a piece of a !@#$%#.

You hit the nail on the head. It's the same over in the MLB 2K forum.

I understand Madden has problems, I do. But I try to keep it in context. Tiburon has nine months every year to turn around and develop one of the biggest titles in all of gaming. Not only are there gameplay, graphic, and presentation tweaks to make year in, year out... but corporate EA is always looking for "new" features to market.

The development cycle is short, internal demands many and expectations huge. Most of us don't understand that type of pressure; I think it is entirely reasonable to expect the developers who do visit with us here to be treated with respect.

[boooey]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

You hit the nail on the head. It's the same over in the MLB 2K forum.

I understand Madden has problems, I do. But I try to keep it in context. Tiburon has nine months every year to turn around and develop one of the biggest titles in all of gaming. Not only are there gameplay, graphic, and presentation tweaks to make year in, year out... but corporate EA is always looking for "new" features to market.

The development cycle is short, internal demands many and expectations huge. Most of us don't understand that type of pressure; I think it is entirely reasonable to expect the developers who do visit with us here to be treated with respect.

All of you what you say is most likely true, and I agree 100%, but as consumers that's just not our problem to deal with. As paying customers we are owed a playable game to play, and one that isn't bug ridden like this years Madden.

and for Ian to make a comment like "The longer we try to fix Madden 09, the less we can put into Madden 2010" is totally out of line to tell your paying customers, and will only anger those people even more who's game and consoles are freezing up.

[arseniotall]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

yea yea yea but WILL THE FRANCHISE FREEZING BE FIXED?