Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

[icomb1ne]

Re: Cowboys vs. Eagles Video from IGN

Just expressing my opinions and observations that will hopefully help the gameplay tweaking that is still going on


1) The presentation looked really outstanding. From the coin toss to Romo using the phone. It truly looked like a TV broadcast. The attention to detail on the players is looking good so far. It is going to be impossible to please everybody but they are doing a good job so far

2) I thought that the pile-up for the fumble looked outstanding as well although I will be one of those people that turns the mini-game off.

Can someone of that weight and size jump that high?!?! I also feel sorry for the people in the pile.

3) Players move without much weight and momentum. When Hamlin tackled Macklin, all of Macklin’s momentum seemed to have ended at the moment Hamlin joined in. I am pretty sure Ian state that he is working on this. Also, defenders are still able to insta-turn and change directions on a dime. I am not really seeing the improvements mentioned in the player momentum blog. This is probably a major disappointment for me I think we will have to wait until M11 for any hope of this.


4) I am not sure if the o-line should be as spread out as it is. The running lanes are MASSIVE and pocket is quite large. From seeing actual gameplay footage I can see were LBzrule is coming from when he says that DEs and OLBs should be getting upfield faster. Also the play of free blockers needs some fixing.





5) Tackle animations looked decent. They were not amazing but they were not that bad either. I thought the last one were the CB tackled the WR after the TD looked particularly nice.

6) Personally, I still don’t dig the running animations. Tweaking them might have IMPROVED them but I want them to be FIXED. It’s hard to specifically point out what I don’t like about them but they seem bobbing up and down too much. Also they are holding out the ball too far from his body. Lastly, it does not look like they are running very hard but rather leisurely jogging. A lot of people seem to be fine with the running, but I don’t know, I just don’t like it.


7) Graphics were okay. I wasn’t impressed with them like I was with the screens and the Pro-Tak documentary. I guess the game will look best in replay mode. I still think that the ankles look too thin although the colored gloves and cleats look nice.

Edit: 8) Forgot to add that I am kind of disappointed that it appears they are not using a new mechanism for kicking

[countryboy]

Re: Cowboys vs. Eagles Video from IGN

A next gen football EA basher that is.

hah...well...at least you're honest.

[whoady4shoady]

Re: Cowboys vs. Eagles Video from IGN

It's seems like that's all you do with your time. We are supposed to be helping the Madden team improve, but instead you decide to bash them. There is no more ESPN NFL 2k5! Move on! EA Sports will have the NFL license for a while and there's nothing you can do to change that. If you continue to bash the Madden team, it won't do anything. If you try to help them, it will improve their products.

It has nothing to do with 2k and you know it. All the other EA Franchises are flourishing and getting better over the years, but not Madden. They have a great Soccer, Hockey, Golf, experience, and the bball and boxing are only getting better and fast.

What is wrong with the football?

P.S. Im talking pure gameplay.

[Bgamer90]

Re: Cowboys vs. Eagles Video from IGN

Eurgh, exactly.

The intro was boring as hell. This is definitely not what I was expecting, especially since Ian told us he religiously researched ESPN 2k5.

For everyone who disagrees, take a look at the ESPN 2k5 intro. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HB2J...eature=related . **** gets you pumped up. You see the crowd, you see the players, the music is blaring, and the commentators seamlessly interweave into the action.

The intro for M10 has fancy new lettering for the logos, but aside from that, it definitely didn't get me into the game.

Damnit.

Dude... it's obvious they skipped through the pre-game stuff.

They only showed 2 players.

Also, it has been said in an article that they will show players going to their seats w/ their hot dogs and stuff before the game.

[ZRob72]

Re: Cowboys vs. Eagles Video from IGN

WHY in god's green earth did that cornerback run right past and infront of McNabb and run across the field instead of sack him???????

I wondered the same thing....I guess its not finished yet....

[Bgamer90]

Re: Cowboys vs. Eagles Video from IGN

It has nothing to do with 2k and you know it. All the other EA Franchises are flourishing and getting better over the years, but not Madden. They have a great Soccer, Hockey, Golf, experience, and the bball and boxing are only getting better and fast.

What is wrong with the football?

Nothing at all in that vid looked better to you?

[BrianFifaFan]

Re: Cowboys vs. Eagles Video from IGN

same here...i LOVE everything except the actual play---perhaps it's the capture equip with IGN but i just don't get a sense of smoothness with it

i'll wait until i can play the demo though

Downloaded the free QT version. That soothed a lot of framerate fears. But there's just the general sense of "band-aids" that pervaded the vid for me. I can see what they've really worked on, but it just brings out the huge flaws in the gameplay that have always made the game "meh" for me. The decision not to add better locomotion just makes the game seem so stiff. But I have watched the vid a few times and can see the differences, they just aren't overwhelming. Maybe Hammond just sets kind of a generic/blah mood. I will say I like the run blocking on the handoff to Westbrook. The PA fake by McFlabb is bad. He's too upright. No hard fake to it. But I have to digress for a second. I'm watching it as I type with my headphones on watching the Cavs game in PiP and you know what? I can really enjoy this vid a lot more with no audio. The audio is really killing it for me. Hammond especially. Sad how much a bad audio presentation can kill the mood... Turned that off and can see the game's plusses a lot better.

With some line play tuning and maybe some rounding off of routes to give it a more organic feel, I could see myself just turning off all the commentary and going with stadium announcers. A lot of the gameplay stuff I can't really judge, especially with the crappy human play. But I'm really digging all of the other presentation outside of Hammond, and the more I watch without him, the more I can see there is some good things going on. A foundation to build on...... BTW this is after watching this clip about 20 times. I don't know... Come on E3!!!!

[lostintravise]

Re: Cowboys vs. Eagles Video from IGN

Just expressing my opinions and observations that will hopefully help the gameplay tweaking that is still going on


1) The presentation looked really outstanding. From the coin toss to Romo using the phone. It truly looked like a TV broadcast. The attention to detail on the players is looking good so far. It is going to be impossible to please everybody but they are doing a good job so far

2) I thought that the pile-up for the fumble looked outstanding as well although I will be one of those people that turns the mini-game off.

Can someone of that weight and size jump that high?!?! I also feel sorry for the people in the pile.

3) Players move without much weight and momentum. When Hamlin tackled Macklin, all of Macklin’s momentum seemed to have ended at the moment Hamlin joined in. I am pretty sure Ian state that he is working on this. Also, defenders are still able to insta-turn and change directions on a dime. I am not really seeing the improvements mentioned in the player momentum blog. This is probably a major disappointment for me I think we will have to wait until M11 for any hope of this.


4) I am not sure if the o-line should be as spread out as it is. The running lanes are MASSIVE and pocket is quite large. From seeing actual gameplay footage I can see were LBzrule is coming from when he says that DEs and OLBs should be getting upfield faster. Also the play of free blockers needs some fixing.





5) Tackle animations looked decent. They were not amazing but they were not that bad either. I thought the last one were the CB tackled the WR after the TD looked particularly nice.

6) Personally, I still don’t dig the running animations. Tweaking them might have IMPROVED them but I want them to be FIXED. It’s hard to specifically point out what I don’t like about them but they seem bobbing up and down too much. Also they are holding out the ball too far from his body. Lastly, it does not look like they are running very hard but rather leisurely jogging. A lot of people seem to be fine with the running, but I don’t know, I just don’t like it.


7) Graphics were okay. I wasn’t impressed with them like I was with the screens and the Pro-Tak documentary. I guess the game will look best in replay mode. I still think that the ankles look too thin although the colored gloves and cleats look nice.

+10000000 this post expresses everything that I'm thinking. nice stuff

[Obelysk]

Re: Cowboys vs. Eagles Video from IGN

Dude lets praaaaaaay it plays like it finally should... I LOVE 3-4 defenses but rarely play it in Madden because it barely works, I'm crossing my fingers that double teams happen ALOT (especially with a man like Hanyesworth).

Tell me about it, I have been waiting for this like forever! Please let it be true!

[Bgamer90]

Re: Cowboys vs. Eagles Video from IGN

Just expressing my opinions and observations that will hopefully help the gameplay tweaking that is still going on


1) The presentation looked really outstanding. From the coin toss to Romo using the phone. It truly looked like a TV broadcast. The attention to detail on the players is looking good so far. It is going to be impossible to please everybody but they are doing a good job so far

2) I thought that the pile-up for the fumble looked outstanding as well although I will be one of those people that turns the mini-game off.

Can someone of that weight and size jump that high?!?! I also feel sorry for the people in the pile.

3) Players move without much weight and momentum. When Hamlin tackled Macklin, all of Macklin’s momentum seemed to have ended at the moment Hamlin joined in. I am pretty sure Ian state that he is working on this. Also, defenders are still able to insta-turn and change directions on a dime. I am not really seeing the improvements mentioned in the player momentum blog. This is probably a major disappointment for me I think we will have to wait until M11 for any hope of this.


4) I am not sure if the o-line should be as spread out as it is. The running lanes are MASSIVE and pocket is quite large. From seeing actual gameplay footage I can see were LBzrule is coming from when he says that DEs and OLBs should be getting upfield faster. Also the play of free blockers needs some fixing.





5) Tackle animations looked decent. They were not amazing but they were not that bad either. I thought the last one were the CB tackled the WR after the TD looked particularly nice.

6) Personally, I still don’t dig the running animations. Tweaking them might have IMPROVED them but I want them to be FIXED. It’s hard to specifically point out what I don’t like about them but they seem bobbing up and down too much. Also they are holding out the ball too far from his body. Lastly, it does not look like they are running very hard but rather leisurely jogging. A lot of people seem to be fine with the running, but I don’t know, I just don’t like it.


7) Graphics were okay. I wasn’t impressed with them like I was with the screens and the Pro-Tak documentary. I guess the game will look best in replay mode. I still think that the ankles look too thin although the colored gloves and cleats look nice.

Nice breakdown man. I also agree with the run animations. I couldn't really notice the improvement that much.

And yeah, players still turn too fast.

[DickDalewood]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

I really liked the fumble pileup and touchdown celebration.

[Rick Smits]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

The play calling screen was not that great. I personally like the ps2's play screen compared to this years Madden but other than that looks good.

[oldphart667]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

Looking better, its a start. one thing tho and it always drives me nuts, is when two players side by side (like during the kick-off in the vid) do the same animation. i am no programmer, and do not know if it can be fixed, but it does look really bad. I do Like the presentation.

[adub88]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

icomb1ne I agree 1000% with your post. You can't help but notice at the :53 mark the LB just cuts on a dime in pursuit of Westbrook. It's disappointing to see.

[the drewster]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

personally i was happy with the pocket, speed of the game, and celebrations. We havent even seen the big reveal at E3 ill have to say this game is a buy for me.