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  • marktg30
    Banned
    • Dec 2005
    • 3945

    #301
    Re: Finally...The Truth About Online Franchise

    Originally posted by KANE699
    Working on online franchise doesn't take away anything from anywhere else.
    Most worries are coming from people that only play OFFLINE Franchise.... Which, they could have taken away from in order to build a functional Online Franchise.

    No one is saying they did...yet.

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    • TheWatcher
      MVP
      • Oct 2008
      • 3408

      #302
      Re: Finally...The Truth About Online Franchise

      When you work in the way most major game developers work, in order to make sure all assets operate properly online, you do have to employ folks of different talents within. At the very least you have Art and database working on it in different capacities... it has to be tested and QA'ed, too. So there is time and resource being taken away from other things where those resources would normally be allotted.

      Anyway, I have no use for it myself and no real desire to get into it, but I think online franchise is a nice idea for the group of people who will use it. I just think the way EA implied the projection of its coverage in the trailer is incredibly ambitious at best, but that's marketing hype so I expected that.
      Last edited by TheWatcher; 06-02-2009, 10:17 AM.

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      • 3nDAmornin
        Rookie
        • Jun 2003
        • 190

        #303
        Re: Potential Online Franchise Problems /w Computer Controlled Teams?

        The HUMAN commissioner has to approve all trades and transactions.

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        • jeb68
          Rookie
          • Jul 2002
          • 123

          #304
          Re: Potential Online Franchise Problems /w Computer Controlled Teams?

          That's good. Has that been confirmed?

          I'd really like a waiver feature though. It would bring a fantasy football-like aspect to the game.

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          • Glorious Arc
            MVP
            • Sep 2008
            • 1875

            #305
            Re: Potential Online Franchise Problems /w Computer Controlled Teams?

            Originally posted by 3nDAmornin
            The HUMAN commissioner has to approve all trades and transactions.
            Are you sure about transactions? That would mean you would be unable to sign free agents without the commish's say so. Then again we have no clue how the free agent part of the game is going to work out but still if they give that much power to a commish then thats just plan silly.

            I think I read that all trades must be confirmed by the commish which is fine.

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            • Kingspadee
              Banned
              • Mar 2009
              • 575

              #306
              Re: Potential Online Franchise Problems /w Computer Controlled Teams?

              Originally posted by 3nDAmornin
              The HUMAN commissioner has to approve all trades and transactions.
              link

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              • Skyboxer
                Donny Baseball!
                • Jul 2002
                • 20302

                #307
                Re: Finally...The Truth About Online Franchise

                If you get a group of guys that play realistic it will beat CPU gameplay hands down.
                I've had the most fun ever in dynasty when playing NCAA dynasty online.

                As far as the 32 player ability I'm not going to knock it. Yes most will have a hard time keeping it going but having the option is great. People don't show up you sim it or return it to CPU control(hopefully that's an option).
                Either way if they had released it with 12 human capability like NCAA there would have been an uproar that you could only do 12.
                So why not release it with the full 32, doesn't hurt anything.
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                • Skyboxer
                  Donny Baseball!
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 20302

                  #308
                  Re: Madden NFL 10 Online Franchise Confirmed

                  Originally posted by WildFan22
                  It just hit me how much this is going to rock. Imagine how cool it will be when you are going for the rushing title against 9 other guys in franchise mode. Do you sit your star RB before the playoffs and risk the rushing title? Do you play him injured in the playoffs if he gets hurt. This is takes Madden to a whole new level for me.

                  Yep. Very excited for this.
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                  • Brandwin
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 30621

                    #309
                    Re: Madden NFL 10 Online Franchise Confirmed

                    One question and I'm not sure if it's been answered, but are you going to have to be connected to a wifi to use the iPhone app? Also, do you have to have 3g phone?

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                    • xanmank
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 565

                      #310
                      Re: Finally...The Truth About Online Franchise

                      I think one of the main arguements is not being able to have a set schedule to go online to play- sometimes I go 2 weeks without finding time to play. I can't be held to even 100% playing on a particular day, let alone find an exact time to play against someone.

                      Maybe if it was you and one of your buddies who lives far away that would be alright, but thats like playing 2 on your own offline franchise, just not in the same room.


                      Sometimes the arguement is just "I'm not interested in online"- I just don't want to play it. You probably can't pursuade someone to take your side by saying "Well, its fun, you'll like it... If you play it like this, it will work".

                      I'm sure there are plenty of things you don't like/aren't interested in with Madden, and most likely someone else won't be able to change your mind either.
                      Madden 11' Franchise should be

                      Madden '10 "foundation" + depth of Head Coach 09 = my dream franchise mode.

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                      • Koolie G
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 1812

                        #311
                        Re: Finally...The Truth About Online Franchise

                        Originally posted by Skyboxer
                        Either way if they had released it with 12 human capability like NCAA there would have been an uproar that you could only do 12.
                        So why not release it with the full 32, doesn't hurt anything.
                        So True.

                        What I keep reading is that people are complaing about OF but they're the same people that have never played NCAA's OD. Online Dynasty was/is AWESOME! All the things these people are worried about have already been experienced in Online Dynasties. I never ever play random people online. But I loved playing Online Dynasty with people that I either already knew or a group of guys that I was invited to that I got to know. There is no cheesing in online dynasty or franchise because the members police themselves and have the commish to be the heavy hand. If the commissioner is a stand up dude then this system works great.

                        I love the idea of 32 human controlled teams, but it will be very rare that those leagues get completed. I would think 6, 8, 10 or 12 would probably be the ideal number of teams. I haven't bought Madden for a couple years, but I'm pretty sure this feature alone will compel me to fork over the $60.
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                        • PacMan3000
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1807

                          #312
                          Re: Finally...The Truth About Online Franchise

                          OK, break it down for me because I clearly don't understand.

                          You say don't have 32 people, just find five or six guys and play a franchise--but how would that work? Would you have a finite amount of time to finish your weekly games? Meaning, it's week one in our franchise mode, and I have till Friday to complete my game. Then it's Wednesday and Jim and John finish their week one games. Then it's Thursday and the last few guys fit in their week one games.

                          And then what happens? We simulate the computer's game and it goes to week two?

                          If so, wouldn't it take about 3 months to finish a season--and that's if people stick with it or don't run into issues in their personal life.

                          How would free agency work? How does the draft work? You just gotta hope all six guys are free for a two or three hour block of time, like a fantasy football draft?

                          And what happens if someone is doing poorly? Will your friend want to stick it out and play an hour long game every week when he's heading down a path to a 4-12 season? Lord knows, as huge of a football fan as I am, even I tend to wane in my interest in fantasy football when my team begins to flounder.

                          In a perfect world, online franchise sounds like it could be tons of fun. But I'm still not clear on how it realistically can come to fruition.

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                          • wco81
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3305

                            #313
                            Re: Madden NFL 10 Online Franchise Confirmed

                            Originally posted by DookieMowf
                            One question and I'm not sure if it's been answered, but are you going to have to be connected to a wifi to use the iPhone app? Also, do you have to have 3g phone?
                            They said an iTouch app. in some of their PR statements. That means Wifi.

                            But they also talked about setting your depth charts while waiting in line at the grocery store so that would imply a phone with Internet access where Wifi isn't available.

                            Question is whether EA will charge for this app. or let people download it for free, since the only way you can use it is to buy Madden at $60.

                            They charge $10 for the iPhone version of Tiger Woods but $5 for games like Monopoly or Scrabble.

                            So there's no way they can charge a lot of money for this.

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                            • Skyboxer
                              Donny Baseball!
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 20302

                              #314
                              Re: Finally...The Truth About Online Franchise

                              ...
                              Originally posted by PacMan3000

                              You say don't have 32 people, just find five or six guys and play a franchise--but how would that work? Would you have a finite amount of time to finish your weekly games? Meaning, it's week one in our franchise mode, and I have till Friday to complete my game. Then it's Wednesday and Jim and John finish their week one games. Then it's Thursday and the last few guys fit in their week one games.

                              In our group as with any successful group, you have to have good communication. If everyone is done and just 1 player is left to complete their week you have option. Either sim it or everyone can agree to just give the player more time. We didn't set a certain time but expected it to be completed withing a week or so. We went well over a week at times also because everyone realized life takes over sometimes.

                              And then what happens? We simulate the computer's game and it goes to week two? Yep.

                              If so, wouldn't it take about 3 months to finish a season--and that's if people stick with it or don't run into issues in their personal life.

                              Again this is dependant on the players you have. Basically get a good group of players and talk it out beforehand. No matter what happens the league can always move on with the simming or drop player option

                              How would free agency work? How does the draft work? You just gotta hope all six guys are free for a two or three hour block of time, like a fantasy football draft? Don't think anyone is sure how the draft will work yet.

                              And what happens if someone is doing poorly? Will your friend want to stick it out and play an hour long game every week when he's heading down a path to a 4-12 season? Lord knows, as huge of a football fan as I am, even I tend to wane in my interest in fantasy football when my team begins to flounder.

                              Well if he doesn't he should be playing anyways. Isn't winning/losing and re-building for the future what dynasty is all about? If I always won that would get boring to me.

                              In a perfect world, online franchise sounds like it could be tons of fun. But I'm still not clear on how it realistically can come to fruition.
                              I can honestly say that playing people you know play realistically and not just talk a good game of realistic play will beat the offline vs CPU only experience, hands down.
                              Joshua:
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                              a.k.a. Stephen W. Falken, 5 Tall Cedar Road, Goose Island, Oregon"


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                              • marktg30
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 3945

                                #315
                                Re: Finally...The Truth About Online Franchise

                                Originally posted by FadeEmAll
                                Actually you are wrong. I made a thread detailing why the results of the survey were not indicative of the actual feelings on the issue. I then proceeded to provide evidence to show why they were not. You my friend are the one who showed up bitter, possibly because I made my point so well, and made your little smart remark. As always if one does not agree he should logically debate or simply leave....
                                Clearly 6 weeks wasn't enough.

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