I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

[BLBxLakers24]

Re: I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

i dont want to say it was a marketing plot, just overhyped at the moment.

Thats exactly what it is. EA just sit around and think of something that will not change the gameplay, and something that sounds "Cool" that they can over hype and market.

[zpq12]

Re: I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

Isn't this what people have wanted since 2K5? Its at least reminiscent of that system, if nothing else its a step in the right direction. From what I've played of the very short demo, I feel like theres more to tackling this year, more variety and unpredictability.

[mikeacard]

Re: I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

all i can say is that i have not been able to stomach a full game against the cpu on any of the maddens that have been released for the 360, but i have played multiple games on the demo and still want to play more. either ea has actually brainwashed me and i am thinking the same crap i used to hate is now good or they made the game a lot better. i just tested the brainwashing theory by playing madden 09. that game is still awful, so madden 10 must have done something right.

i do have my criticisms of the game though. pro-tak has made an obvious difference in the game. right now it is definitely a bit off though. guys warp through pile ups as they hit the ground and end up 8 feet past the pile. watching the replays it seems like pro-tak creates a barrier around the ball carrier that stops the tacklers momentum. what i mean is if you watch most of the tackles at the moment of impact it seems like the tackler comes to a stop for a split second and then grabs onto the ball carrier, stopping any type of realistic looking gang tackle from happening.

even with the kinks pro-tak brings a lot to the game. if pro-tak has been tuned since the time they had to have the demo ready then i will be even happier, but it is playable as is,

[Jump]

Re: I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

What game is maddens greatest potential competitor in the next few years?

Backbreaker.

You know what is going to be plastered all over the back cover of that game?

Euphoria creates never before seen dynamic collisions and tackling.

So EA decides it needs to hype the hell out of their tech and give it a catchy name. They do this so that when johnny picks up both games at gamestop, and sees both games hyping up their dynamic tackling, he is obviously going to pick the game with NFL license as well.

I think pro tak does add to the game, but it has been hyped into something it is not. And that's why EA earns the big bucks.

[leke4bears]

Re: I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

What game is maddens greatest potential competitor in the next few years?

Backbreaker.

You know what is going to be plastered all over the back cover of that game?

Euphoria creates never before seen dynamic collisions and tackling.

So EA decides it needs to hype the hell out of their tech and give it a catchy name. They do this so that when johnny picks up both games at gamestop, and sees both games hyping up their dynamic tackling, he is obviously going to pick the game with NFL license as well.

I think pro tak does add to the game, but it has been hyped into something it is not. And that's why EA earns the big bucks.

correct

[mikeacard]

Re: I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

What game is maddens greatest potential competitor in the next few years?

Backbreaker.

You know what is going to be plastered all over the back cover of that game?

Euphoria creates never before seen dynamic collisions and tackling.

So EA decides it needs to hype the hell out of their tech and give it a catchy name. They do this so that when johnny picks up both games at gamestop, and sees both games hyping up their dynamic tackling, he is obviously going to pick the game with NFL license as well.

I think pro tak does add to the game, but it has been hyped into something it is not. And that's why EA earns the big bucks.

ea could just release madden 09 with a roster update and it would murder backbreaker in sales. the conspiracy theories are stupid and are really disrespectful to the guys who work their asses off to make this game better.

[Bgamer90]

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Careful, truth equals locked thread. Pro-tak will be removed or named something else next year. Oh, I guess I'm supposed to say the following: At least they are trying, it's better than last year, at least we have a say in making the game better, and so on and so forth. Oh yeah, and if I don't like it, don't play it. Ever hear of buyer's remorse? That's how the demo is getting. Great at first, but then it starts to feel like a mistake. Last one: this is only the demo, we cannot judge until the final build!

Pro-tak means procedural tackling... it's just a shorter word for it. So I don't see why they would rename it.

Again, I can't see how anyone can call pro-tak a gimmick as if it's something like weapons or ring builder. Is pro-tak perfect? No. Is it a gimmick? No.... how could it be a gimmick if it attempts to create something that happens in real football that never happened in any previous madden game?

[TheFuture94]

Re: I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

This is why Madden needs the Euphoria engine. And it needs it badly.

[Jump]

Re: I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

ea could just release madden 09 with a roster update and it would murder backbreaker in sales. the conspiracy theories are stupid and are really disrespectful to the guys who work their asses off to make this game better.

There is a really good chance that if madden 09 was put in to a madden 10 box that it would murder backbreaker is sales, but why take that chance?

What EA has done is they have tried to take away backbreakers biggest selling point, procedural tackling(Pro-Tak for short).

I'm just happy that resources have not been spent on the gimmick like features that we are used to seeing.

Madden is heading in the right direction.

[mr_president]

Re: I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

So removing suction add adding something that creates things that are a part of real football with user control is a gimmick in an NFL football game?

suction has not been removed, maybe toned down a bit but definitely not removed.
on one of my first plays the ballcarrier was within arms length and as i attempted a tackle i was pulled into a block from 4 yards away off to my right.....i was helpless as the ballcarrier sprinted away while i magicaly slid across the ice into the blocker.

[7stringking]

Re: I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

Haven't played the demo yet, but if Madden has the same camera and player lock feature that NCAA10 has, it should be great

[Cryolemon]

Re: I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

ea could just release madden 09 with a roster update and it would murder backbreaker in sales. the conspiracy theories are stupid and are really disrespectful to the guys who work their asses off to make this game better.

Isn't it also disrespectful to the backbreaker devs, who I'm guessing also work their asses off?

[leke4bears]

Re: I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

This is why Madden needs the Euphoria engine. And it needs it badly.

i read an article today and learn that they are trying to sell the euphoria engine. if ea conbine the euphoria engine and theirs insane graphic then madden 11 will be the greatest madden game.

[s38s38s]

Re: I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

Isn't pro-tak also associated with the new DL-OL interaction and how the pocket is formed?

To answer your question yes it is also apart of D-Line/O-Line interaction...To thos who thought Pro-Tak meant you could just gang tackle players at will you're sadly mistaken...

Per the Dev Team (I don't feel like looking for the article) Pro-Tak was originally introduced to add more diversity to the gang tackling outside of the two man gang tackle thats been in since last gen 05 version. Its for 3-9 mine gang tackles /scrums. In other words if your teammate is one on one you may not trigger a Pro-Tak sequence b/c it kicks in when its 3-9 players involved. I've seen several different tackling sequence variations and for this beeing the first time its been implemented I think it serves its purpose.

Secondly what the Pro-Tak software allowed them to do was instead of a sequence triggering one predetermined animation, the user can "steer" animations this more or less refers to using the right stick on the D-Line to trigger moves swim/rip/bull rush etc. It also allows ball carriers an opportunity to escape those same gang tackles Pro-Tak creates.I hope this help to set things in perspectivem because it is not a worthless or pointless feature its helping take the game to the next level. This is coming from a 2K fan fyi.

[Cryolemon]

Re: I know its a demo, but whats the point of Pro-Tak

Per the Dev Team (I don't feel like looking for the article) Pro-Tak was originally introduced to add more diversity to the gang tackling outside of the two man gang tackle thats been in since last gen 05 version. Its for 3-9 mine gang tackles /scrums. In other words if your teammate is one on one you may not trigger a Pro-Tak sequence b/c it kicks in when its 3-9 players involved. I've seen several different tackling sequence variations and for this beeing the first time its been implemented I think it serves its purpose.

How it should work in future (assuming it doesn't now) is that any tackle animation can be added on to.