Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

**don28** · 08-20-2009, 06:52 PM

Re: Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

Originally posted by Bulldogs78

Ok, so after doing testing after testing on how the AI works on this game, I noticed when the cpu qb hikes the ball and you immediately press the turbo button or do the right stick movement, cpu qb goes into panic mode and most times will pass off the back foot if you get near rather than taking a sack or will not move around in the pocket, just dump it as quick as they can.

Well.....I found the solution. First, I tried using a DL and not using the turbo, just the stick movement. CPU acts kind of weird, let's just say out of the ordinary.

Second, tried doing turbo first then stick after hike, cpu goes into full robo mode.

Third, I just let the controls go and let the cpu take over. I noticed cpu racks up yards on me BUT, cpu moves around in the pocket, takes its time and makes passes that make sense.

Well, I combined all of them together. So I started using the LBs a lot. Keep in mind, this is for LB usage. I haven't tested this on the DL yet. I did test it on the DBs and it was too great success as well. it depends on your forte, no matt.

Anyways, the key rule is to follow your defensive patterns. If your at a cover 2 and youre a MLB, make sure he defends that area. BUT DON'T MOVE THE JOYSTICK RIGHT AWAY. Instead, let the AI control the movement for a second or two, then move up manually and defend. Same thing goes for blitz packages. Let the AI move for a second, then move it manually yourself and watch how the game plays like it should.

You will get sacks with anybody. Sometimes manually, sometimes cpu sacks. BUT YOU GET SACKS. It's not unreal either. Sometimes you don't get sacks, but the game plays that much better like real nfl. AI QB moves around the pocket and scans. I can't explain how much more fun it is. You guys will just have to test it yourself and see.

Try it and let me know how it turned out.

That sounds a lot like how I play defense. I have gotten sacks playing with the Chiefs defense. As you all know, they set an NFL record for fewest sacks in a season with 10 sacks in 2008. I have gotten 6 sacks against the Raiders. I have also recorded 3 sacks against the Chargers and Browns.

**Myloman** · 08-20-2009, 06:52 PM

Re: Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

Jesus Christ. So much for user control.

**Bulldogs78** · 08-20-2009, 06:55 PM

Re: Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

Originally posted by don28

That sounds a lot like how I play defense. I have gotten sacks playing with the Chiefs defense. As you all know, they set an NFL record for fewest sacks in a season with 10 sacks in 2008. I have gotten 6 sacks against the Raiders. I have also recorded 3 sacks against the Chargers and Browns.

HOW COME YOU DIDN'T TELL US ABOUT THIS DUDE?!

All this time, I was getting mad because I couldn't get no damn sacks or even some pressure without the QB panicking and throwing off the back foot, but I think this is a loophole in the programming but it's a good one because it actually creates a better game. And with the broadcast cam coming out and with these defensive tactics, omg, I'm going to have no life whatsoever for this whole damn year, possibly until the next.

**Spanky** · 08-20-2009, 06:56 PM

Re: Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

Sounds like you might be onto something. Hopefully they sticky this.

**Bulldogs78** · 08-20-2009, 06:57 PM

Re: Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

Originally posted by Myloman

Jesus Christ. So much for user control.

Its easier than it sounds. just take your mlb, move him around however before the snap but make sure it's not after or else you will have to move him manually period.

But lets say cover 2 buc. Your mlb is going to play zone and will go back peddle up. Let him do that for a split second, then manually control him around that zone. DON'T GO AWAY FROM THAT AREA. Just cover that area, make sure no receivers go there, if they do, you know what to do with him. don't change players either!

Watch how much pressure your dl creates and how the qb moves in the pocket. GOOD STUFF.

**Myloman** · 08-20-2009, 07:02 PM

Re: Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

Originally posted by Bulldogs78

Its easier than it sounds. just take your mlb, move him around however before the snap but make sure it's not after or else you will have to move him manually period.

But lets say cover 2 buc. Your mlb is going to play zone and will go back peddle up. Let him do that for a split second, then manually control him around that zone. DON'T GO AWAY FROM THAT AREA. Just cover that area, make sure no receivers go there, if they do, you know what to do with him. don't change players either!

Watch how much pressure your dl creates and how the qb moves in the pocket. GOOD STUFF.

OK well good find, and this isn't directed at you (more EA), but that is ********. I shouldn't have to do that to get a good pass rush.

**Bulldogs78** · 08-20-2009, 07:06 PM

Re: Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

Originally posted by Myloman

OK well good find, and this isn't directed at you (more EA), but that is ********. I shouldn't have to do that to get a good pass rush.

i know what you mean. Trust me. But I just want people to enjoy their game. At first, I was stoked. Then after I got it, I was like eh. But then after testing it over and over, i think I found the solution to it all.

Just think of it as your playing the mlb or lolb or rolb or whoever you want it to be and do your job in defense, after a split second or two. The results will be satisfying. You can even get user controlled picks, sacks and tackles. I'm trying to figure out how to do videos on youtube with this so once I get that going, i will give you guys a visual aid.

**SemperVictoria** · 08-20-2009, 07:13 PM

Re: Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

Xanadu!!!!!!

Awesome find!

**Bulldogs78** · 08-20-2009, 07:17 PM

Re: Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

Thanks! And keep in mind, I can't emphasize this enough, DO YOUR JOB ON DEFENSE! If you want to play a safety and the play has him covering zone...let him move for a second, then manually move him into that area or move around that area. if a receiver goes anywhere near that area, you know what to do.

If your a safety and you got man on the RB, get in close because playing zone to play man on a RB is not a good play. You see the RB blocking instead and it's a pass play, go for the saftey sack or go help out in coverage. Use your mind like you're playing the real nfl. It will make the game that much better. Use this for all other players except DL. I still havent' figured out how to play the DL without the AI going crazy.

**don28** · 08-20-2009, 07:18 PM

Re: Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

Originally posted by Bulldogs78

HOW COME YOU DIDN'T TELL US ABOUT THIS DUDE?!

All this time, I was getting mad because I couldn't get no damn sacks or even some pressure without the QB panicking and throwing off the back foot, but I think this is a loophole in the programming but it's a good one because it actually creates a better game. And with the broadcast cam coming out and with these defensive tactics, omg, I'm going to have no life whatsoever for this whole damn year, possibly until the next.

I had to learn the hard way that not following the assignment of my controlled player would result in the other 10 players deciding to freelance as well.

**fourthreemafia** · 08-20-2009, 07:18 PM

Re: Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

Bulldogs78, I havent tried this yet, but if it works, where should I send the flowers...or stripper? Whatever you prefer.

**JaD631** · 08-20-2009, 07:21 PM

Re: Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

Sounds interesting and worth a try. Good find.

**Bulldogs78** · 08-20-2009, 07:23 PM

Re: Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

Originally posted by fourthreemafia

Bulldogs78, I havent tried this yet, but if it works, where should I send the flowers...or stripper? Whatever you prefer.

lol just try it out and tell me how it turned out. Now you might not play exactly like me. I usually play either my MLB or saftey depending on the play. Then when the qb snaps the ball, I let the controls go for about 2-3 seconds. The cpu will control the player automatically to his designated defensive spot. Then after that, I just move around that area and if a receiver comes through, whap! tackled or busted up a pass or an int will ensue. Also on blitz packages, if it calls for my mlb to blitz, I don't move in for a blitz. This will tip off the ai qb. Instead, I inch in forward just a little bit. Then when the qb snaps, let the cpu control the blitz for 2 seconds, then control it yourself by pressing the sprint button and move around the gaps. If you see a hand off to the RB, switch players closest or most times cpu will automatically tackle him for a loss or tackle in general.

If you're digging this style of play, post your stats. I want to see if its working for you guys.

Also, i'm playing on drewbledsoe's sliders with a little mod here and there.

**Bulldogs78** · 08-20-2009, 08:23 PM

Re: Just found a way to create great D vs CPU (No more robo qb!)

has anyone tested it out yet? Try couple different games, and let me know how it went. Try playing a miniscule team like the Raiders (sorry raider fans) and an elite team (chargers hehe) with this method and tell me if it worked out for you guys.

I'm trying to put together a video but I don't know how to do it through my t.v. to youtube.

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