Maddens legal battle starts today 09/14/2009!

[rm217]

Re: Maddens legal battle starts today 09/14/2009!

It would be intersting to know how the exclusive deal impacted their total sales. The joke may have ultimately been on EA if they didn't get their 500 million $ back in increased sales.

Exactly and the ironic thing is Madden was selling just as well if not better before the exclusive deal went into effect. Somebody has yolk on there face.

[GTheorenHobbes]

Re: Maddens legal battle starts today 09/14/2009!

Adem....this one's for you:

monopoly
[me-'nä-pe-le]

pl: -lies

1: exclusive control of a particular market that is marked by the power to control prices and exclude competition and that esp. is developed willfully rather than as the result of superior products or skill
(see also antitrust Sherman Antitrust Act in the Important Laws section)

http://dictionary.lp.findlaw.com/scr...eec61f923bec40

[rm217]

Re: Maddens legal battle starts today 09/14/2009!

Exactly and the ironic thing is Madden was selling just as well if not better before the exclusive deal went into effect. Somebody has yolk on there face.

I think EA imagined it could expand the football videogaming buying market with there expertise in advertising and getting the casual fan to buy there game. They most likely thought and imagined selling in the range of 7 million copies on a yearly bases. They were in the 5 million range last generation. Well it didn't quite end up that way and the buying public realized that the incremental yearly updates was not worth the $60 investment especially when EA started off this generation by stripping features.

[Bump101]

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But they don't have a monopoly on football games. If they did there would have never been an APF2k8, or Blitz: The League, or a game like Backbreaker in development. They have a competitive advantage. They don't have a monopoly. I have to extract myself from this thread before I lose it. LOL.

And that's the argument. The plaintiff is saying that since games like APF2k8 doesn't have the NFL license, the game won't sell. You can pull up thousands of threads on this board where people say, I only play madden because it's the only NFL game on the market, or I'm not going to buy APF2k8 or Backbreaker because it don't have the NFL license. You can't deny that.

And I meant to say the lawsuit is about EA having a monopoly on license football video games.

[RaiderKtulu]

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Ask and you shall receive...not much difference, my friend. From Law.com:

"monopoly
n. a business or inter-related group of businesses which controls so much of the production or sale of a product or kind of product as to control the market, including prices and distribution. Business practices, combinations and/or acquisitions which tend to create a monopoly may violate various federal statutes which regulate or prohibit business trusts and monopolies or prohibit restraint of trade. However, limited monopolies granted by a manufacturer to a wholesaler in a particular area are usually legal, since they are like "licenses." Public utilities such as electric, gas and water companies may also hold a monopoly in a particular geographic area since it is the only practical way to provide the public service, and they are regulated by state public utility commissions."

http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1275

So in a world where there have been 4 other football games released since EA got exclusive NFL rights...they have a monopoly how?

[GTheorenHobbes]

Re: Maddens legal battle starts today 09/14/2009!

So you're blaming Madden for all next gen games being 60.00. Ok

NHL2k10 is releasing at $49.99. Who is offering a competing NFL game for less than $60?

[SoxFan01605]

Re: Maddens legal battle starts today 09/14/2009!

Adem....this one's for you:

monopoly
[me-'nä-pe-le]

pl: -lies

1: exclusive control of a particular market that is marked by the power to control prices and exclude competition and that esp. is developed willfully rather than as the result of superior products or skill
(see also antitrust Sherman Antitrust Act in the Important Laws section)

http://dictionary.lp.findlaw.com/scr...eec61f923bec40

Which would shoot down your argument for most judges, prosecutor.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

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I get your point, but I think you are forgetting other areas of restrictive choices that would derail the thread if I went into it.

Your point is well taken and well explained, but EA and the NFL aren't the only entities in the US with restrictive choices.(which is frustrating for me as well)

And for me, personally, yeah it's a pain that The Show isn't on the 360. It's not enough of a pain to shell out money for one game, though. Yes, it's a personal choice for me, but it's also very frustrating to be somewhat restricted for baseball as well.(agree less restrictive than football, but none the less, still frustrating)

The one piece of advise I can give you roadman is to not play MLB the show 09 , or you might be buying yourself a PS3 .

It is crazy to pay $300 for a system to play one game, but man MLB the show is fantastic.
Yes I made the plunge. I love baseball games as well and the SHow was so well done that I could not resist.

What worked out also is that the PS3 had some other nice titles, but again dont play the show, and you wont worry about fighting temptation. lol

Take care

[MarioIsMVDP]

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NFL is EA and EA is the NFL, 2k Sports is all but garbage and is non relevent in the football gaming world. All Pro Football was a flop and you wouldnt be caught dead playing it when your friends come over to play Madden. Oh no guys, I dont want to play Madden I want to play APF and use made up names and teams while using guys who played football 50 years ago...AWESOME!

Madden is beast, and it seems the people that hate them so much are still stuck in the 2k5 days. Hey guess what? That was 5 years ago, it's over, 2k5 was one game ion one year and now its gone. Fanboys of 2k5 could quite possibly worse then ay other fanboy group out there.

EA will never give the NFL license up, never, and the NFL will always give them the copntract as long as they are making money for them, and it seems to me that EA and Madden do quite well every single year.

[GTheorenHobbes]

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Which would shoot down your argument for most judges, prosecutor.

How so?

exclusive control of a particular market? Check.

Power to control prices? Check.

Power to exclude competition? Check.

Developed willfully rather than as the result of superior products or skill? Double-check.

Besides, it doesn't really matter what I think. It was enough for the Judge in the Pecover case to deny EA's motion to dismiss, and frankly, for now, that's good enough for me.

[Tbo24]

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NFL is EA and EA is the NFL, 2k Sports is all but garbage and is non relevent in the football gaming world. All Pro Football was a flop and you wouldnt be caught dead playing it when your friends come over to play Madden. Oh no guys, I dont want to play Madden I want to play APF and use made up names and teams while using guys who played football 50 years ago...AWESOME!

Madden is beast, and it seems the people that hate them so much are still stuck in the 2k5 days. Hey guess what? That was 5 years ago, it's over, 2k5 was one game ion one year and now its gone. Fanboys of 2k5 could quite possibly worse then ay other fanboy group out there.

EA will never give the NFL license up, never, and the NFL will always give them the copntract as long as they are making money for them, and it seems to me that EA and Madden do quite well every single year.

All pro football was their first football game made in 4 YEARS and it was more realistic than Madden. If you think Madden has done quite well every single year then....wow...your opinion though I guess.

[MJenness]

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NFL is EA and EA is the NFL, 2k Sports is all but garbage and is non relevent in the football gaming world. All Pro Football was a flop and you wouldnt be caught dead playing it when your friends come over to play Madden. Oh no guys, I dont want to play Madden I want to play APF and use made up names and teams while using guys who played football 50 years ago...AWESOME!

Madden is beast, and it seems the people that hate them so much are still stuck in the 2k5 days. Hey guess what? That was 5 years ago, it's over, 2k5 was one game ion one year and now its gone. Fanboys of 2k5 could quite possibly worse then ay other fanboy group out there.

EA will never give the NFL license up, never, and the NFL will always give them the copntract as long as they are making money for them, and it seems to me that EA and Madden do quite well every single year.

And WE are fanboys??? lmao

[SGMRock]

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All pro football was their first football game made in 4 YEARS and it was more realistic than Madden. If you think Madden has done quite well every single year then....wow...your opinion though I guess.

He didn't say anything about gameplay, I think he ment they were doing well in sales. I mean that game came out what, 2 years ago and they didn't release a new one this year so if you compair the sales of Madden 2009 and 2010 to APF2K8 then you can say EA is doing much better. That is what allowed them to pay the extra money to get the NFL to say ok you got the whole license. The only thing I can think is that EA offered to pay them 2 or 3x more than they were charging any single company in the past or the NFL would not have done it. Why would they sell their rights to 1 company if they can sell it to 3 for more money. So EA had to of offered a large amount and counted on the fact they would sell more games because of it.

If they found they were no longer selling more games because people stopped buying Madden or bought some other game instead the next time around I doubt they would pay out that amount of money and the license would be available to others if they had the money for it.

[rm217]

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And WE are fanboys??? lmao

Guys let's not make this an EA versus 2K debate. Back to the topic at hand or else we run the risk of getting this thread locked.

[ityaboy56]

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NFL is EA and EA is the NFL, 2k Sports is all but garbage and is non relevent in the football gaming world. All Pro Football was a flop and you wouldnt be caught dead playing it when your friends come over to play Madden. Oh no guys, I dont want to play Madden I want to play APF and use made up names and teams while using guys who played football 50 years ago...AWESOME!

Madden is beast, and it seems the people that hate them so much are still stuck in the 2k5 days. Hey guess what? That was 5 years ago, it's over, 2k5 was one game ion one year and now its gone. Fanboys of 2k5 could quite possibly worse then ay other fanboy group out there.

EA will never give the NFL license up, never, and the NFL will always give them the copntract as long as they are making money for them, and it seems to me that EA and Madden do quite well every single year.

Well from the way you are ranting and taking it personal, you sound like the typical..... whats the name I'm looking for????? FANBOY. Now you're talking about 2k fanboys being the worst group? Uh uh my man. Madden fanboys are the worst by far.

Now before you go and say "oh he must be a fanboy too", let me clarify. I am not. I am a fan though of any game that is good. If it's not, hey it's not. If it is, it is. Point blank. I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't know where this turned into another EA vs. 2K battle. But for people to get all hot under the collar about this legal issue is funny.