Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

**DakkoN** · 09-24-2009, 08:16 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by drae2

I just downloaded it for the 360 and it took less than 10 seconds. Anybody else download it that fast?

The patch itself is very small, most likely it's just a bunch of code rewrite, so obviously a bunch of text changes isn't going to be huge.

The AFL Legacy Pack is around 180 MB.

**DakkoN** · 09-24-2009, 08:19 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

I may be imagining this, but I think the amount of hard hits from the hit stick have been greatly reduced, at least on kick returns. There's been a couple times now when I've had a dead on hit on a guy on a kick return, and it just ends up going into a normal tackle animation. Doesn't bother me any if it's true, I actually like it, because there seemed to be a few too many fumbles on kick returns.

**frankrizzo380** · 09-24-2009, 08:21 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by bomza

You want my impression? On the dumbing down of the R-stick left or right hot routed backs out of the backfield? Horrible.

I'm all in favor of cutting down the angle that the back can come out of the backfield which they have done. Now they have to go further up field before they make their cut. But what's with slowing down of the back for the first ten yards before he can make his cut like he's walking in freakin' molasses? This is the "solution" they came up with to backs coming out of the backfield in the flats being open?

NOT making the defensive AI smarter so they recognize them coming out of the backfield sooner, oh no...

But actually slowing down the speed of the backs coming out of the backfield like they all just pulled a hamstring or something, then speeding up to make the cut, then actually slowing down again just to be sure sure the AI DB has time to recover and catch him?

Wow. I have to do some more experimenting, but I am NOT happy with this change. This is just plain stupid and a lazy solution if you ask me. Just take out the R-stick left or right hot route altogether if you're going to do this to it. Ridiculous.

dont feel bad bro, they did the same thing with ncaa 10 in the first patch too,i play with the saints, so u can imagine my pain, oh well

well i 've had to play on normal speed setting, because though the game is much much smoother, its beginning to feel as though if the ai's team is wayyyyyy faster thanmy team, it seems even kiel on normal.
the a.i. also seems to have alot more time in the pocket(esp. when its formed correctly) it may be because a. im playing with the saints, and b. im scared to bring the heat on "D" because of how the cpu uses the fb/hb/flatscomboas a saftey net 100% of the time, dont worry though, this has been toned down alot
im forgetting something but im cool with the "Patch" so far
now where is that roster update

and show my saints some love esp the o-line!!!!!!!!!!!

**Football4Natic** · 09-24-2009, 08:23 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by carnalnirvava

skill has nothing to do with anything in this game. i can pass i know how to read the animations and breaks in routes but those are exploits this game is not about skill for me.....

its about if i call a streak unless the cpu bumps me my guy should be infront of him EVERYTIME and the Db's skill set such as his catch up speed and tackle or strip ability COMBINED with my QB acc and the place of the ball should determine the out come......

this patch does not deliver that or anything close to it....

to be honest i can rocket catch every ball ( that is skill)

i should not need SKILLS, to get this interaction to play out....

broadcast cam is sick, very refreshing take on gameplay, a nice addition ....

that is where you are wrong...If you call a streak then you get a receiver having a step or 2 depending on who the receiver is

on my team steve smith is not going to blow past champ bailey

with the patch the streaks allow for a step or 2 and the cpu reacts properly

db play issues are mainly with the cpu defender breaking before or at the same time as the receiver

that is fixed with the sliders.

there is no rocket catching with hardcore and all madden adjusted based sliders....i dont know how you come up with that theory

but to each his own....

**Football4Natic** · 09-24-2009, 08:24 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by DakkoN

I definitely don't agree with CPU rushing being better. I've played 3 games now and they've not had 1 10+ yard rush yet and usually end up with about 15 rushes for 20-30 yards.

what sliders are you using.

because anything default is not going to work..the patch was for slider affectivness

**frankrizzo380** · 09-24-2009, 08:24 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by DakkoN

I definitely don't agree with CPU rushing being better. I've played 3 games now and they've not had 1 10+ yard rush yet and usually end up with about 15 rushes for 20-30 yards.

ditto sir, ditto

**St3fN_sTrApS** · 09-24-2009, 08:28 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

About to play my first game with the patch, just by reading some comments, the patch seems to be pretty good. Gonna get the AFL content later on today as well

**Pappy Knuckles** · 09-24-2009, 08:35 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

I don't watch the computer play each other, so the broadcast cam is pretty worthless. Looks decent enough, but you can't see down the field. I couldn't ever see myself playing with that view.

**The Real Ma$$ive** · 09-24-2009, 08:36 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

Well... I was happy when i downloaded the patch this morning; then I popped it in and thought hmmm... I don't know, but it seems to me that the Cpu quarterback throws to the open man even faster, i'm talking about the split second that they're open. This makes for even harder sacks, as I played two all-madden play now games and recorded no sacks. Won one game, lost the other.

Now, It seems like the QB's talking on the phone get their face already uploaded immediately as soon as their on the phone, so no more pop in textures, but there's a flicker on their head that kinda sucks.

I threw a few button hooks with success, of course db's still jump your routes, but I was throwing with Mark Sanchez so who knows. For the most part it feels a bit cleaned up, and I have no beef with the patch, but I do think the cpu Qb's are throwing the ball to the open man way to fast.

I couldn't get the run game established against the Jaguars, but I did have the Seahawks in game two, and E. James didn't look to hot with that line. I did notice that I got out the backfield a little though, but needs more testing. Overall its ok... but I expected a little more influence on the changes.

**DakkoN** · 09-24-2009, 08:40 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by Football4Natic

what sliders are you using.

because anything default is not going to work..the patch was for slider affectivness

Have raised CPU run blocking and broken tackles to 100 and still haven't noticed much of a difference.

**BroMontana82** · 09-24-2009, 08:45 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by DakkoN

Have raised CPU run blocking and broken tackles to 100 and still haven't noticed much of a difference.

that's pretty damn weak...so much for slider effectiveness, especially run blocking. im guessing the pass rush is the exact same as well.......

**RaiderKtulu** · 09-24-2009, 08:53 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

I'm sure most of you don't care... but I didn't feel like making a new thread for it.

It looks like the patch fixed the 49ers helmet color, and added numbers to the Chargers 60's helmet (but didn't fix the wrong lightning bolt issue).

**DakkoN** · 09-24-2009, 08:58 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

I'm seeing more pass interference calls than before. Have seen 4 since I've been playing. Just seen one against Brian Dawkins on a Hail Mary to Randy Moss.

**bomza** · 09-24-2009, 08:58 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by frankrizzo380

dont feel bad bro, they did the same thing with ncaa 10 in the first patch too,i play with the saints, so u can imagine my pain, oh well

It's just a dumb solution. Like I said, cut down the angle or make the back go further down field first before making his cut, fine. Better yet, improve the defensive AI.

But to actually slow down the speed of the back coming out of the backfield THAT MUCH now makes the R-stick left or right hot route for backs useless not to mention it's totally unrealistic. And there's no reason a back would slow down, then speed up while making the cut, then slow down again after making his cut which he now does. Just plain dumb.

It says... "Better play recognition in man coverage"

I wish that's what they did. Here's the reality...

"We slowed down the speed of the backs coming out of the backfield on certain hot routes to one-eighth to one-quarter normal speed so a baby could catch them."

**frankrizzo380** · 09-24-2009, 08:59 AM

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by RaiderKtulu

I'm sure most of you don't care... but I didn't feel like making a new thread for it.

It looks like the patch fixed the 49ers helmet color, and added numbers to the Chargers 60's helmet (but didn't fix the wrong lightning bolt issue).

dude, u're a raiders fane giving updates about the 49ers and bolts, THEY BETTER CARE!!! lol
thanks for the heads up though, ill check it out after this game

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