Bad Move to scrap Extra Point/Halftime Show

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Re: Bad Move to scrap Extra Point/Halftime Show

How is watching fake highlights from simmed cpu games that you will eventually start seeing the same play in a highlight over and over and over and over again do anything for presentation? Sounds like a waste of time to me to sit and watch a bunch of plays that never actually happened.

Yea much like other game scores in your season or franchise. Complete waste of time knowing those scores are not real. I hope EA removes scores from around the league since it never happened.

What is presentation to you, simming games and looking at stats all day??? Like that is real.

[K_GUN]

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NOT a bad idea to scrap the EP/ H-time show.....I only have about an hour for these games nowadays and with no *in-game* save option....I just blast through most of the stuff anyway

[berad88]

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Yea much like other game scores in your season or franchise. Complete waste of time knowing those scores are not real. I hope EA removes scores from around the league since it never happened.

No need for the attitude. No need to cry if the whole world does not agree with you. I want everything in the game to be the best it can be as does everybody else. Nothing wrong with challenging an idea. A simmed score or a simmed stat is one thing as they are actually based off of player ratings. A random highlight from a simmed game that never actually happened? I am not sold on that.

I know there are a lot of people that worship 2k5 but a highlight show that is over 5 minutes long is a bit much in my opinion. Also that 2k5 highlight show is pretty boring as it is. At its time it was awesome for sure but it is 2011 now and instead of trying to be 2k5 I am sure the Madden developers can evolve that and create something even better. The only thing is will the 2k fans be able to accept evolution? I have a feeling that unless the Madden team made a highlight show that was the exact same as the one in 2k5 there is always going to be people hating.

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Re: Bad Move to scrap Extra Point/Halftime Show

No need for the attitude. No need to cry if the whole world does not agree with you. I want everything in the game to be the best it can be as does everybody else. Nothing wrong with challenging an idea. A simmed score or a simmed stat is one thing as they are actually based off of player ratings. A random highlight from a simmed game that never actually happened? I am not sold on that.

I know there are a lot of people that worship 2k5 but a highlight show that is over 5 minutes long is a bit much in my opinion. Also that 2k5 highlight show is pretty boring as it is. At its time it was awesome for sure but it is 2011 now and instead of trying to be 2k5 I am sure the Madden developers can evolve that and create something even better. The only thing is will the 2k fans be able to accept evolution? I have a feeling that unless the Madden team made a highlight show that was the exact same as the one in 2k5 there is always going to be people hating.

Ok.............if you don't want to watch it just press the button! Just saying your reasoning made no sense about what is and isn't real. I think most of us are aware the highlights are not real especially since it is a video game. Going back to your 2k5 reasoning lol. Let's be honest, how many years has it been since that game was released? Has EA matched or surpassed that when it comes to presentation? Just asking so don't flip out if some of us would like to see something different other than a stats page at halftime.

[poopoop]

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That's the wonderful thing about opinions.. you never have to justify them if you don't want. Honestly, I haven't played Madden since the halftime show was implemented so I have no idea what it was like. I just don't agree with people who believe their opinion is somehow superior to others.

It's about logic, not opinion. People seem to have this idea that EA removing the halftime show and not having one at all was somehow a necessary step in getting one in the future. I don't see how this is a logical argument at all.

My main beef is that them removing it completely is just an admittal on their behalf that it was trash. Meaning all the time/resources they wasted developing it could have been better used elsewhere. I'm tired of them moving in circles, introducing things, removing them then reintroducing them later. How are they supposed to innovate and move forward when they're busy chasing their own tail.

I know there are a lot of people that worship 2k5 but a highlight show that is over 5 minutes long is a bit much in my opinion. Also that 2k5 highlight show is pretty boring as it is. At its time it was awesome for sure but it is 2011 now and instead of trying to be 2k5 I am sure the Madden developers can evolve that and create something even better. The only thing is will the 2k fans be able to accept evolution? I have a feeling that unless the Madden team made a highlight show that was the exact same as the one in 2k5 there is always going to be people hating.

The question isn't will 2k fans be able to accept evolution, who cares. The real question is when is EA going to evolve past a game that was released 7 years ago.

[bkrich83]

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It's about logic, not opinion. People seem to have this idea that EA removing the halftime show and not having one at all was somehow a necessary step in getting one in the future. I don't see how this is a logical argument at all.

My main beef is that them removing it completely is just an admittal on their behalf that it was trash. Meaning all the time/resources they wasted developing it could have been better used elsewhere. I'm tired of them moving in circles, introducing things, removing them then reintroducing them later. How are they supposed to innovate and move forward when they're busy chasing their own tail.

LOL.

10 Char.

[bkrich83]

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I could care less about Extra Point. Never really enjoyed EP, never really enjoyed the weekly update, show or whatever it was for NFL2k5.

What I would like though is a halftime/post game highlight/summary show ala 2k5. I thought that was pretty well done. There's no reason something similiar shouldn't be in Madden by now.

Much like in game saves stuff like this should be in every sports video game by now. It is the year 2011.

[TracerBullet]

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I could care less about Extra Point. Never really enjoyed EP, never really enjoyed the weekly update, show or whatever it was for NFL2k5.

What I would like though is a halftime/post game highlight/summary show ala 2k5. I thought that was pretty well done. There's no reason something similiar shouldn't be in Madden by now.

Much like in game saves stuff like this should be in every sports video game by now. It is the year 2011.

I agree with all of this for the in-game stuff. Never got the fascination with the weekly highlight shows though. I think I actually enjoyed EAs radio show just as much.

Personally, I'd rather have news paper articles for every team like The Show. If they had stuff like game stats, player/team stats, team standings, injuries, transactions around the leauge, etc. I'd prefer a newspaper that highlights all of that each week for each team rather than a redundant highlight show.

This is the main thing I want. At least have an online type setup with stories like NBA 2k11 and even NCAA has. Get some big stories/ transactions/injury updates from around the league for one main newspaper/site, then have a local one for all the teams. No need for a show imo.

[Jarodd21]

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Yea I really don't care too much for it either unless they decide to add game breaks, halftime highlights, post game highlights, and summary for it. Highlights from other games is the main thing I wanna see with this.

[berad88]

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Ok.............if you don't want to watch it just press the button! Just saying your reasoning made no sense about what is and isn't real. I think most of us are aware the highlights are not real especially since it is a video game. Going back to your 2k5 reasoning lol. Let's be honest, how many years has it been since that game was released? Has EA matched or surpassed that when it comes to presentation? Just asking so don't flip out if some of us would like to see something different other than a stats page at halftime.

I guess I would rather just play the game instead of watching the game by sitting through long highlight shows. If I wanted to do that I could turn off the console and turn on ESPN. I just hope that EA finds a way to do it well and does not just try to copy what was already done in 2k5. I will give it a chance.

If the extra point had an occasional highlight and showed the scores of every single game it would be pretty close to what 2k5 had with their ESPN show. Sure EA might not of matched it but they came pretty close in the pathetic attempt that they did make.

I never played The Show but from what people are saying on here that sounds like the best way to go using the newspaper style system to deliver the information. An actual highlight show that you watch is just doomed to start repeating stuff.

[TracerBullet]

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I guess I would rather just play the game instead of watching the game by sitting through long highlight shows. If I wanted to do that I could turn off the console and turn on ESPN. I just hope that EA finds a way to do it well and does not just try to copy what was already done in 2k5. I will give it a chance.

If the extra point had an occasional highlight and showed the scores of every single game it would be pretty close to what 2k5 had with their ESPN show. Sure EA might not of matched it but they came pretty close in the pathetic attempt that they did make.

I never played The Show but from what people are saying on here that sounds like the best way to go using the newspaper style system to deliver the information. An actual highlight show that you watch is just doomed to start repeating stuff.

Well, no matter what you do it will repeat eventually, but its much less of an annoyance to get info that way, instead of hearing the same commentary ran into the ground.

[Nab_Impervious_XII]

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I think OP partially misspoke when he made the title.

I think he meant to say it's a bad move that EA is scrapping Extra Point/Halftime and not replacing them with anything.

But removing Extra Point/Halftime in and of itself is a great move, because it was horribly implemented.

It's all about EA's second move after scrapping Extra Point. Will they do the innovative thing and create a replacement or regress back and disappoint in this key presentation area once again? I'm hoping it's the previous.

[BuffaloBull7]

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I will not miss The Extra Point one bit. It was horrible!! So generic and basic when it could of been Amazing. Wasted things like this are not needed in the game. If the product is not ready yet do not release it. The Extra Point was not done when it was released.

[roadman]

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They could just as easily leave it in until the new show is ready, that's the whole point.

No Show -> Poorly done show -> Better show is not as bad as

No Show -> Poorly done show -> No Show -> Better show

Eventually putting a new show in doesn't necessitate taking out the current one.

Personally, I would like them to do what they just did. Admit they weren't happy with it and build a new one to their liking vs adding to what I thought was garbage in the first place.

Finally, as I stated before, to each their own.

[Thinking Out Loud]

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To the OP and anyone disappointed about the Extra Point being removed, a little info. I posted this in another thread a while back.

I don't know if you read the NCAA 12 previews or not but some said that game has a video highlight montage with commentary after every quarter. Also a mention of Erin Andrews doing a halftime wrap up or something but no actual show. They haven't shown a video of it yet which may be because they are still tuning it. So we can probably at least expect something on that level from Madden 12 if not something better.

My guess is that in Franchise we will probably get an around the league weekly show with those video montage like highlights from various games. However, for play now games, we probably get what has been reported to be in NCAA 12.

Keep hope alive though because the fact NCAA 12 has not released any video on it might bode well for Madden 12 having something special in their videos later.

Stay tuned...

And this was posted from a Game Informer article recently about NCAA 12; "Highlight montages run at the end of the quarter, or analysts may break down the tape if your QB has thrown too many interceptions. This new contexual approach should help in more accurately telling the story for each game."

Put all that together and even without a show, halftime/game video highlights should be available with commentary breakdown. Also, hopefully we will be able to watch the video montage with commentary from other games each week in franchise. If not, we probably can actually save each user controlled teams video highlight montage with commentary each week in franchise mode and create yearly highlight reels with commentary that tells the story of each user team's entire season. That's HOT!

Then, people that are willing to let the CPU vs CPU teams actually PLAY their games, on screen, during franchise mode while the user just spectates, leaves the room or turns the channel, could save the montages from ALL franchise games and watch them each week. That would pretty much create a great franchise highlight montage with in-depth storylines, better than the Extra Point ever did, IMO.