Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

[Crimsontide27]

Like any job, there comes a point in time where you feel that you have either maximized your potential, or realize that there are better opportunities out there for you. I wont go into some of the reasons that people are leaving, but rest assured that they are doing something that has been a topic for a few years now.

Its just that now is the time that opportunity is knocking. Dont think for one minute that anyone that has left....or that is leaving ( 2 more very likely within the next 2 months ) , is not doing it on their own free will.

You will hear these names again...count on it

[adfletch71]

Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

I wish Phil luck in the future. Madden needs a change and the direction they was heading was entirely too slow with simulation football. Hopefully Cam Weber understands this and sees that changes are needed for a new direction with the franchise. Madden after 6 years still havent surpassed NFL2k5 in presentation and ALLPRO2k8 in gameplay yet. Still slipping and sliding, no footplanting...etc. Hopefully the future is SIM football for madden, just have easier sliders for the casual fans. We need what we see on sundays and it hasnt been the case for Madden these 6 years.

[frankrizzo380]

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You do know we made this game right?

I read every post up until this point and there is no reason to continue reading these crappy responses, i lol'd soooo damn hard that my right contact lens popped outta my eye and i cant find it, u owe me a contact lens, and we sir owe u and phil many thanks, madden is the name of the game but u and phil have been the posterboys/media outlets/community spokesmen for the last few years and now we seem to have a great product commin to our gamming consoles in just a few weeks!

Always remember one thing, for every ***** u encounter, there's about 100+ gamers out there who appreciate all of u guys hard work so, i say congrats to the both of u and goodluck on all future endevors, peace out

[MrSkagTrendy]

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End of an era, bro. No Phil and Ian next year is gonna be totally weird. Wish them both the best..and let's hope Madden 13 won't be crap, after what looks to be an incredible Madden 12.

[carnalnirvana]

Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

its about time these guys move on, they have other talents and probably wanted to work on other projects..... unless you are getting a pension most workers like to move around after about 7 years IMO. i see it all the time in corporate america dont see why it cant be true for tech guys as well...

[Step2001]

Thanks Phil for your time and all the hard work you have put in over they years.

Thanks again Ian for all you did for the Franchise. '10 was and is the turning point for Madden.

Everything I've read on the new guy "Cam" sounds good as to Madden staying pointed in the right direction that it is.

Looking forward to playing '12

[K_GUN]

Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

I wish Phil luck in the future. Madden needs a change and the direction they was heading was entirely too slow with simulation football. Hopefully Cam Weber understands this and sees that changes are needed for a new direction with the franchise. Madden after 6 years still havent surpassed NFL2k5 in presentation and ALLPRO2k8 in gameplay yet. Still slipping and sliding, no footplanting...etc. Hopefully the future is SIM football for madden, just have easier sliders for the casual fans. We need what we see on sundays and it hasnt been the case for Madden these 6 years.

it's the tech that Tiburon uses...not the people

[Hova57]

Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

Everytime we talk about engines for Madden and Ncaa we gotta here about FIFA and NHL. What many don't realize is when FIFA was at its lowest. They decided then to redo their engines piece by piece. FIFA and NHL flourished, there was no expectation because series was doing bad. Madden and NCAA took awhile because original Next Gen dev thought they could move on with doing so. Ian has brought this up before that is was overruled to making a new engine so they worked with what they had till Ian and Phil got the permission to start taking the engine apart and adding new. This is where we got to Madden 12 and NCAA 12. I feel that we don't have to worry bout the direction of the games. EA current structure won't allow with Cam Weber for both titles he himself said there is a plan. i believe him.

[TexasBorn1]

Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

Mr.Frazier has been working on Madden for as long as I can remember. don't know why he's leaving, but still good luck to him

[Bumble14]

Best of luck to Phil and his future endeavors. Great guy who will no doubt be doing great things at his next position.

As cynical as our community can be here at OS, I think it's important to step back and realize just how much time and effort both Ian and Phil put in to communicate with our site and community over the years. Both love sports gaming just as much as we do.

As Mr. Noah mentioned, we are crossing our fingers the person(s) that fills their shoes will look to OS for feedback and communication. Thanks again guys, it was a great run.

[Smoke6]

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Wait a minute, is this a new thread or has he always been the one leaving...

Man im so confused, if this is fillycheze leaving, man wtf is going on at EA? I mean, I knw we can be very critical and all, but damn man just dont up and leave, I have been upset over madden but not ever wanting anyone to ever quit or lose there job over it, just to get better at the game is all.

Wow man, well goodluck in whatever it is you're headed for next.

[Skyboxer]

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Met Phil at E3, quite some time ago. He is DEFINITELY a hardcore guy. I could tell, just from talking with him. Others can tell by reading tweets from him. Played Ian in one of the OS leagues (I'm 1-1 against him btw ). He is hardcore as well. Both guys will be missed, some of you guys might be eating your words when it comes time to give feedback for the game these 2 put into it. Who knows what the next guy will want. Maybe he goes to IGN or Gamefaqs to get feedback. You never know what you got, til it's gone.

On another note, don't people look for other jobs? I mean, who really wants to do the same thing year in and year out? Especially when PR and marketing have more say-so than the people that actually grind away at the game? Maybe they are leaving because of the money, maybe they are leaving because of all the politics that go on behind the scenes at EA (that none of us remotely have a clue about). Either way, Phil and Ian did what "they could do", while other things they had no control over, ruin their visions, then... of course... they get the blame.

Oh well, sad to see Phil go, but we all have to carry on. In the end, it's whatever makes them happy. You can't expect cherries on top of everything, no matter where you work.

I bet Phil and Ian are just as pissed off as the hardcore guy is, when they can't get something in the game

Yep. I hope whatever their future holds they do well and are happy. I've also been critical in the past about certain things in Madden BUT the reason I was in the first place (and something that gets missed in the agendas etc... ) is that to be passionate in the first place means they made a game worth being passionate about.
And for the record I'm 0-1 vs Ian...
Freaking INT inside the 5 when I was going in for the go ahead score....

[CRMosier_LM]

Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

Met Phil at E3, quite some time ago. He is DEFINITELY a hardcore guy. I could tell, just from talking with him. Others can tell by reading tweets from him. Played Ian in one of the OS leagues (I'm 1-1 against him btw ). He is hardcore as well. Both guys will be missed, some of you guys might be eating your words when it comes time to give feedback for the game these 2 put into it. Who knows what the next guy will want. Maybe he goes to IGN or Gamefaqs to get feedback. You never know what you got, til it's gone.

On another note, don't people look for other jobs? I mean, who really wants to do the same thing year in and year out? Especially when PR and marketing have more say-so than the people that actually grind away at the game? Maybe they are leaving because of the money, maybe they are leaving because of all the politics that go on behind the scenes at EA (that none of us remotely have a clue about). Either way, Phil and Ian did what "they could do", while other things they had no control over, ruin their visions, then... of course... they get the blame.

Oh well, sad to see Phil go, but we all have to carry on. In the end, it's whatever makes them happy. You can't expect cherries on top of everything, no matter where you work.

I bet Phil and Ian are just as pissed off as the hardcore guy is, when they can't get something in the game

SNAP! The SAME THING I have been saying for 3 years!!! Good post Steve!

[BezO]

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I want to see Phil, Ian and some others on OS as fans. That would be fun.

[adfletch71]

Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

it's the tech that Tiburon uses...not the people

hey K_GUN

I have too disagree with u about the presentation aspect of the game, they could have outshined NFL2k5 this gen, but didn't for some reason. Gameplay wise is debatable. They was on the right track with the Extra Point and could have really built off of that. Madden presentation has been bland and boring for 6 years and still lacking. Take out the intros and camera angles, its still Maddens ole presentation. Its a lot more than intros and camera angles, it does help though. Look at NBA2K11 and MLB2K11 presentation package and commentary..outstanding!!! Madden needs to take notes on that, then they can say they "true to the game".