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  • roadman
    *ll St*r
    • Aug 2003
    • 26339

    #76
    Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

    Originally posted by LaW97
    if we have complained about madden for years
    and the guys who have been on staff for years are leavin......

    i would think thats a good thing

    hopefully guys who care about the same thing we complain about will be hired in their place
    Not even close.

    The same guys that are leaving are the one's that started to turn this franchise around recently.

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    • Madwolf
      MVP
      • Jul 2007
      • 1327

      #77
      Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

      Sorry, I just don't get the hate for the guy by certain people. Look, regardless of how you feel about the Franchise that is Madden, I don't think you can villianize guys like Phil Frazier for any of it's short comings.

      In my experience there are certain types of people in this world when it comes to the wonderful world of video games. In an industry where nothing is really assured, long tenures, no matter where you are, aren't guaranted unless you're either with a major company with multiple block-buster IPs, or you're just great at what you do.

      And I don't mean "great" as in, he just does an amazing job. That's not all there is too it. I mean, great as in the guy has that non-stop motor at everything he does whether it be his work or just being THE guy at the office everyone looks to for leadership and even just a good talk. The guy that the inevitable douchebag that works at every place of business can't get rid of unless he eliminates everyone around him, and forces him out when he is finally given no other options, isolated, and ridden out. And just when you think he's broken, and that he doesn't have anything left, you see him walking down the street, as bright as ever, and he tells you how great his new job is and how he's excited for this and that.

      The type of guy that even if he worked at an amusement park, if you could you'd drop everything to go follow him. To succeed, and have fun doing it.

      I don't know if he's that guy, I don't. However, if he survived 13 years on the Madden team, I'd be willing to bet he has some of that guy in him.

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      • JohnDoe8865
        Hall of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 9607

        #78
        Sinking ship...?
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        • RememberMe12
          Banned
          • Feb 2011
          • 296

          #79
          Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

          Originally posted by bkrich83
          You and I both know why.

          i could say the same thing about you with anyone saying anything negative about the Madden team.

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          • TheShizNo1
            Asst 2 the Comm Manager
            • Mar 2007
            • 26341

            #80
            Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

            Originally posted by roadman
            Not even close.

            The same guys that are leaving are the one's that started to turn this franchise around recently.
            At what point do you not defend EA?
            Originally posted by Mo
            Just once I'd like to be the one they call a jerk off.
            Originally posted by Mo
            You underestimate my laziness
            Originally posted by Mo
            **** ya


            ...

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            • bkrich83
              Has Been
              • Jul 2002
              • 71572

              #81
              Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

              Originally posted by RememberMe12
              i could say the same thing about you with anyone saying anything negative about the Madden team.
              If you did I would hope you would use better logic to do so than you did in this thread.
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              • bkrich83
                Has Been
                • Jul 2002
                • 71572

                #82
                Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

                Originally posted by bigbob
                It was a joke. And you don't know what's going to happen in 2013. The NFL could decide not to renew it.
                You'd be surprised what I know.

                Even if the NFL didn't renew in 2013, you think 2k is anywhere near ready to put a football game on the shelf? I can tell you with great certainty they are not.
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                • roadman
                  *ll St*r
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 26339

                  #83
                  Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

                  Originally posted by TheShizNo1
                  At what point do you not defend EA?
                  And at what point do you know all of my posting history.

                  Not very good at all.

                  I just don't rip on people I don't know.

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                  • RememberMe12
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 296

                    #84
                    Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

                    Originally posted by roadman
                    And at what point do you know all of my posting history.

                    Not very good at all.

                    I just don't rip on people I don't know.
                    You and bkrich do with many posters on this forum, which you do not know.

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                    • Bobaloo
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 1

                      #85
                      Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

                      Phil took a lot of undeserved crap from the communities especially this one. OS being one of them that attracts some of the most disrespectful, intolerant, won't listen to logical reason, people who know more than they understand, types around. It takes thick skin not to just cuss people out around here from what I've read.

                      I always liked how Phil handled things, and I enjoyed watching Phil in the Madden 12 vids this year. He appeared to be having a lot of fun. I think Madden 12 looks fantastic and since he's going out he's going out with a bang. I salute him and wish him well.

                      About what's going on at EA. Who knows. You won't convince me though that there isn't something rocky happening right now. Sorry, I wasn't born yesterday. 3 top guys going one after the other? But it's all just nothing? Yeah okay. I've heard a lot of spin from the usual suspects (I won't name any names but they always pop up with the same tired spin like clockwork so we all know who they are). But, to be quite honest as a consumer, EA's internal issues are much lower on my radar than the product they turn out. Make a great game, that's all I care about. 12 might be it from what I've seen.

                      With 3 top guys gone, I just don't want them to move anybody up into those positions who doesn't have a strong background in game making (i.e. he should have years of solid programming experience, professional design experience, experience managing large projects, etc) and making sports games specifically. I don't want to see them taking any gambles with unprovens to save on salaries or anything like that. Fingers crossed. Good luck to Phil!

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                      • TheShizNo1
                        Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 26341

                        #86
                        Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

                        Originally posted by roadman
                        And at what point do you know all of my posting history.

                        Not very good at all.

                        I just don't rip on people I don't know.
                        Yet, you'll defend them. That doesn't seem much better
                        Originally posted by Mo
                        Just once I'd like to be the one they call a jerk off.
                        Originally posted by Mo
                        You underestimate my laziness
                        Originally posted by Mo
                        **** ya


                        ...

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                        • themassacre771.1
                          Rookie
                          • May 2011
                          • 331

                          #87
                          Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

                          And the soap opera continues

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                          • The GIGGAS
                            Timbers - Jags - Hokies
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 28474

                            #88
                            Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

                            Originally posted by CHooe
                            Best of luck to Phil in his future endeavors.
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                            • roadman
                              *ll St*r
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 26339

                              #89
                              Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

                              Originally posted by RememberMe12
                              You and bkrich do with many posters on this forum, which you do not know.
                              Just differing opinions.

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                              • kehlis
                                Moderator
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 27738

                                #90
                                Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

                                Originally posted by RememberMe12
                                You and bkrich do with many posters on this forum, which you do not know.
                                What you are ignoring is that they have both been critical of Madden where it is necessary.

                                You and your previous username have been here long enough to know that.

                                What isn't necessary is being negative where it is neither warranted nor necessary just to be negative.

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