Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

[sars973]

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So far I've played probably 10-12 games.

5/6 against the cpu on all-pro (few games switching sides to only play offense).

5/6 against a friend who's better than me, also on all-pro (i beat him 48-7 with the packers last night lol)

I've played every game on normal speed, except the last one I played just now on slow speed. I thought everyone on here was crazy to switch the speed in the demo and advocate the slow setting so strongly. Well I was wrong, the game was much better on the slow speed setting. I had slightly more time in the pocket, saw fewer sacks, and the game played smoother overall. It felt closer to how madden 10/11 played.

Now I haven't purchased madden since madden 2004; after that I went with 2k5 and stuck with it until I got a ps3 a year or so ago. My friend gave me madden 10 when he got 11, and I've played it somewhat regularly, but didn't love it.

Madden 12 looks like it's going to be the one to get me back into madden. I love the new camera angles/presentation elements. The gameplay in the demo is the best madden has been since this new generation started. The new tackling system works pretty well. Zone defense improvements are good. Lack of suction blocking/tackles is great, and overall it's just the best madden is probably going to be this generation.

[TexasBorn1]

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True to the game indeed--the Bears offensive line is terrible! Poor Cutler

[jpdavis82]

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So far I've played probably 10-12 games.

5/6 against the cpu on all-pro (few games switching sides to only play offense).

5/6 against a friend who's better than me, also on all-pro (i beat him 48-7 with the packers last night lol)

I've played every game on normal speed, except the last one I played just now on slow speed. I thought everyone on here was crazy to switch the speed in the demo and advocate the slow setting so strongly. Well I was wrong, the game was much better on the slow speed setting. I had slightly more time in the pocket, saw fewer sacks, and the game played smoother overall. It felt closer to how madden 10/11 played.

Now I haven't purchased madden since madden 2004; after that I went with 2k5 and stuck with it until I got a ps3 a year or so ago. My friend gave me madden 10 when he got 11, and I've played it somewhat regularly, but didn't love it.

Madden 12 looks like it's going to be the one to get me back into madden. I love the new camera angles/presentation elements. The gameplay in the demo is the best madden has been since this new generation started. The new tackling system works pretty well. Zone defense improvements are good. Lack of suction blocking/tackles is great, and overall it's just the best madden is probably going to be this generation.

Not if Cam Weber and the new development team stay true to their vision. This was year one of their three plan. It's only going to get better from here. I'm really excited about the new commentary engine in Madden 13 and I'm hoping we'll get a studio halftime and weekly franchise show soon too. They are also talking about physics, kinda throwing the idea around, so yeah it's only going to get better, but I am stoked for Madden 12.

[K_GUN]

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Not if Cam Weber and the new development team stay true to their vision. This was year one of their three plan. It's only going to get better from here. I'm really excited about the new commentary engine in Madden 13 and I'm hoping we'll get a studio halftime and weekly franchise show soon too. They are also talking about physics, kinda throwing the idea around, so yeah it's only going to get better, but I am stoked for Madden 12.

disagree about Cam....this was year 3 for Ian/Phil....Cam's vision starts next year

[jpdavis82]

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disagree about Cam....this was year 3 for Ian/Phil....Cam's vision starts next year

You're right, and it's also going to be Mike Young's first game as Creative Director and Roy Harvey's (former exec producer of NCAA) first year as exec prodcer of Madden, so yeah I bet Madden will be unreal next year. It's probably going to feel different than any other Madden we have seen. I know Cam's big thing is simulation football and making it look and feel like football and authentic to what you see on TV. Getting player movement to look realistic was one of the first things he mentioned when he came to the team.

Here's a sample of the interview with him in April

• First and foremost, we need to deliver an amazing simulation football gameplay experience on both of our franchises. In other words, our fans want to see fluid, realistic player movement and deep football AI and behaviors on the field. This includes what players are doing between the whistles in the middle of a play, and how they behave in our pre- and post-play moments as well.

• Another key component is authenticity. Whether it is delivering the unique sights and sounds, traditions and pageantry across the schools in college football, or the NFL experience that we’ve all come to know and love on Sundays. Our consumers count on us to pay attention to the details.

• On top of that, it is critical that we deliver compelling depth modes. Whether it is providing a rich and deep Franchise/Dynasty mode or Superstar/Road to Glory mode, we need to continue to continuously invest in making these modes as deep and as realistic as possible.

• In addition to those core components, we need to deliver compelling ways for our consumers to compete with one another in the online space. The foundation of our online sports game experience is social competition -- we need to continue to innovate in how we allow our consumers to compete against friends and other opponents, customize their game experience and to keep our product updated with content throughout the year.

[greenegt]

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I'm on Live silver until the game ships, so I downloaded the demo and got in a quick quarter before work. Very small sample size, but I'm liking the feel of the game.

-All-Pro is challenging. The Bears marched right down the field on the opening drive. I only got a couple of offensive plays in before having to leave for work.

-Still getting used to no suction (which is a great thing). On defense, I'm finding myself whiffing on tackles a lot, because I can't just run near the offensive player and trigger a tackle animation. I need to use that tackle button.

-The CPU quick snap is really annoying. Glad it will be fixed in retail.

-Game speed is definitely faster than the last Madden I owned (Madden 10). I'll be playing on Very Slow.

-Graphics and presentation look great.

I'll play a few games tonight and form a more well-rounded opinion, but I know that I can not wait to get the retail version.

[TomBo24]

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Anyone else notice that the ball sometimes leaves the qb's hands before he even releases the ball? Hopefully this only happens in the demo..

[w00dy Hayezz]

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Anyone else notice that the ball sometimes leaves the qb's hands before he even releases the ball? Hopefully this only happens in the demo..

Aaron Rogers is just that good!

[jpdavis82]

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Anyone else notice that the ball sometimes leaves the qb's hands before he even releases the ball? Hopefully this only happens in the demo..

Yeah hopefully, but it happens in NCAA too at least during Road To Glory, saw it yesterday.

[bucky60]

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Aaron Rogers is just that good!

Aaron Rodgers is so good...........
He can bend over and bullet pass one out of his backside, but then no one wants to catch it.

[nyg92fan]

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Aaron Rodgers is so good...........
He can bend over and bullet pass one out of his backside, but then no one wants to catch it.

The passing game is making me not like this demo and i was liking it at first, but the more i play the more start seeing all the flaws. It's awful and needs alot of work..

[bucky60]

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The passing game is making me not like this demo and i was liking it at first, but the more i play the more start seeing all the flaws. It's awful and needs alot of work..

My post was just suppose to be a joke. Part of the joke is that's why the GB receivers seem to have so many (real life) drops. Bad joke I guess.

[JMUfootball]

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Just got the demo because I refuse to participate in XBox's scheme to steal from people by CHARGING them for online gaming (LOL)

Demo is, eh. Was expecting a lot more. The presentation elements are decent, but why do we still get the ultra zoom player lock camera after every play? And has EA realized it needs to differentiate presentation elements for each game? Otherwise all their effort is wasted...for example the coach giving some last minute words to his QB is a nice touch, but if we see the same exact animation before the first drive of EVERY game it's going to do more harm to believability than good.

Still no player momentum, default game speed is way too frantic. Lots of big hits and not a lot of form tackles. Defensive backs still "creep" out to their positions pre-play, with their backs fully arched. When do you EVER see this in real life? The whole thing feels like pretty much the same game as the last few years, with a little less suction blocking.

What really exemplifies EA's failure is this: when they have the pop-up display to announce the offensive "starters", they don't list the offensive linemen. What a great example of how EA thinks we are all mindless morons who don't appreciate anything other than "marquee name" skill players. As long as EA thinks their customers are all that way, they will continue to design arcade games like this one. And I have no intention of buying an arcade game.

[babythug23]

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Is there a slider i can change that make players feel like they have some weight to them?

[jpdavis82]

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Just got the demo because I refuse to participate in XBox's scheme to steal from people by CHARGING them for online gaming (LOL)

Demo is, eh. Was expecting a lot more. The presentation elements are decent, but why do we still get the ultra zoom player lock camera after every play? And has EA realized it needs to differentiate presentation elements for each game? Otherwise all their effort is wasted...for example the coach giving some last minute words to his QB is a nice touch, but if we see the same exact animation before the first drive of EVERY game it's going to do more harm to believability than good.

Still no player momentum, default game speed is way too frantic. Lots of big hits and not a lot of form tackles. Defensive backs still "creep" out to their positions pre-play, with their backs fully arched. When do you EVER see this in real life? The whole thing feels like pretty much the same game as the last few years, with a little less suction blocking.

What really exemplifies EA's failure is this: when they have the pop-up display to announce the offensive "starters", they don't list the offensive linemen. What a great example of how EA thinks we are all mindless morons who don't appreciate anything other than "marquee name" skill players. As long as EA thinks their customers are all that way, they will continue to design arcade games like this one. And I have no intention of buying an arcade game.

Madden 12 was the last game in the Phil Frazier & Ian Cummings era, this was the last year of Ian's 3 year plan. Next year will be the first Madden made with Cam Weber the new GM of EA Football games. He is a former college QB and a diehard football guy. The first thing he did when he came to the team was he doubled the size of the Gameplay team. He is a true hardcore sim football guy and I expect to see more gameplay improvements in Madden 13 than we did the last five years combined. He was on the EA Canada team and helped develop FIFA and Fight Night games. In his interview back in April one of the first things he mentions is working on realistic player movements pre play, during, and post play. I'm very excited about the future of Madden and NCAA for that matter with Cam Weber in charge. Mike Young is also the Creative Director now replacing Ian Cummings and he is a presentation animal, so expect to see much improved commentary(new commentary engine starting with Madden 13) and very soon also new halftime, post game, and weekly franchise studio shows. Madden 12 is going to be really good, but I think these new games with Cam as GM will blow it out of the water.