Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

[Segagendude]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

Madden Sucks. Graphics look like ***. Second Year in a row I will be
sticking with NCAA and NOT buying Madden.

Thank you for sharing. I can sleep better tonite......

[bkrich83]

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All I did was exactly what you did but turned it around. You were blasting others for having realistic issues, trying to say there expectations were unreasonable.

I just gave it right back to you. If you don't like it, then don't do it to others. LOL.

Actually that's not what he did, nor is it what you did. But keep up the agenda.

[bkrich83]

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I hear you haven't gotten the game yet. True? I'm anxious to hear what you thing.

I've had the game since yesterday. Not enough time.. Fun so far, but only 2 games in.

[bucky60]

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Yes, you are a much more refined gamer. I love the attitude that if you like a certain game or can live with certain issues you are some how discerning or less of a gamer.

It's not that. I have no problem with those that enjoy it for what it is. What I have a problem with are those that blast others that have reasonable issues with the game. If all the guys in this thread had said, I'm enjoying it and can look past any flaws, I would have stayed out. But, most posts were calling out guys that mention or have mentioned some reasonable issues. Why should these guys tell others they shouldn't have higher expectations? And why aren't you commenting on there obvious bias against others?

If this thread would have been more civil, I would have just read through it and not posted.

[ted23]

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I think most people are enjoying it. If you look at the poll on this site for today, it has a 66% approval rating (which is twice that of our President).

[robertw2010]

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I'm 50. I got you beat. And games/HD/Dev tools were a lot less sophisticated 30 years ago. (Back in the Hand Held football days, and the PONG Days).

Hardware, Development tools, Development techniques and technologies, and video games have gotten a LOT more sophisticated since then. There is nothing wrong with having reasonable expectations. Like expecting things that were in games 7 years ago, or fixing bugs that have existed in the game for almost a decade. There is nothing wrong with having your expectations a little higher.

Nope nothing at all with higher expectations....remember the original handheld football that were red blips and 4 directional pads. I will take what we have over that any day. Patches and tuning updates are part of life now. Basically 9 month development cycles...deadlines...it is not an easy job, I wouldnt want it..and if they read these boards, I bet they feel pretty unappreciated right now...as you would.

[bucky60]

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Actually that's not what he did, nor is it what you did. But keep up the agenda.

Most gamers can see issues, point them out...then play the game and have fun. Others think they are owed something and issues are made out as game killers or "broken game" items.

There you are throwing that agenda garbage around. The whole premise and tone of this thread has been, be satisfied with what you have and quit complaining, though the verbiage was much stronger. I'm not the one with the agenda.

I've had the game since yesterday. Not enough time.. Fun so far, but only 2 games in.

And I'm looking forward to hearing what you have to say about the game. I'm looking forward to hearing what anyone has to say about it.

[bucky60]

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Nope nothing at all with higher expectations....remember the original handheld football that were red blips and 4 directional pads. I will take what we have over that any day. Patches and tuning updates are part of life now. Basically 9 month development cycles...deadlines...it is not an easy job, I wouldnt want it..and if they read these boards, I bet they feel pretty unappreciated right now...as you would.

Hardware, Development tools, Development techniques and technologies, and video games have gotten a LOT more sophisticated since then. There is nothing wrong with having reasonable expectations. Like expecting things that were in games 7 years ago, or fixing bugs that have existed in the game for almost a decade. There is nothing wrong with having your expectations a little higher.

It just doesn't even make sense to compare 30 years ago to today.

[aholbert32]

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Hardware, Development tools, Development techniques and technologies, and video games have gotten a LOT more sophisticated since then. There is nothing wrong with having reasonable expectations. Like expecting things that were in games 7 years ago, or fixing bugs that have existed in the game for almost a decade. There is nothing wrong with having your expectations a little higher.

It just doesn't even make sense to compare 30 years ago to today.

You are asking for more than that. You want all those things plus you want yearly improvements and a guarantee that those yearly improvements won't cause new bugs. If Madden still had last gen graphics, none of the new features that its added over the years but fixed bugs like penalties, weather issues and online issues that have plagued it for years...people would still call EA lazy and argue that it isn't worth their 60 bucks.

This isn't directed at you but I'm so sick of hearing people complain about "buying betas for 60 bucks" or "I deserve this because I paid 60 bucks". You know how much I paid for Tecmo Bowl when it came out on NES. 50 ****ing bucks! So I paid almost what I paid for Madden 2012 but for some reason my expectations should be light years ahead of what my expectations were back then?

I RARELY go into impressions threads because of the nitpicking and over dramatization of every bug or oversight in a game. I just play the damn game. I like football. Madden does a decent ( some say good) job of simulating football for me. I don't care if the passing stats aren't perfect or the Browns color palette is a little off. I respect that some people demand more but I'm past that. I guess I'm too old to bitch about this stuff anymore.

[Skyboxer]

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Actually that's not what he did, nor is it what you did. But keep up the agenda.

Pretty much. They say if you like the game your expectations are low or you aren't someone who is as much of a gamer.

I said if you don't like the game then don't buy it and that my expections were NOT what they claim they are if you like the game.

No where did I say anyone was wrong that they didn't like it. I only said some gamers feel if the game isn't to thier liking thay they are owed something (from the developers)
That and they have to post 1000 times so people can see them. Never said they couldn't like the game.
I don't care if anyone buys the game so I don't care if they like it. That's the difference.

[robertw2010]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

Hardware, Development tools, Development techniques and technologies, and video games have gotten a LOT more sophisticated since then. There is nothing wrong with having reasonable expectations. Like expecting things that were in games 7 years ago, or fixing bugs that have existed in the game for almost a decade. There is nothing wrong with having your expectations a little higher.

It just doesn't even make sense to compare 30 years ago to today.

Oh yes it does....the simpler message is to be thankful for what you have....and to remember where you came from. Just saying...if you grew up in the 70's and 80's you should appreciate the games now and the advancements that have been made.

[bcruise]

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You are asking for more than that. You want all those things plus you want yearly improvements and a guarantee that those yearly improvements won't cause new bugs. If Madden still had last gen graphics, none of the new features that its added over the years but fixed bugs like penalties, weather issues and online issues that have plagued it for years...people would still call EA lazy and argue that it isn't worth their 60 bucks.

This isn't directed at you but I'm so sick of hearing people complain about "buying betas for 60 bucks" or "I deserve this because I paid 60 bucks". You know how much I paid for Tecmo Bowl when it came out on NES. 50 ****ing bucks! So I paid almost what I paid for Madden 2012 but for some reason my expectations should be light years ahead of what my expectations were back then?

I RARELY go into impressions threads because of the nitpicking and over dramatization of every bug or oversight in a game. I just play the damn game. I like football. Madden does a decent ( some say good) job of simulating football for me. I don't care if the passing stats aren't perfect or the Browns color palette is a little off. I respect that some people demand more but I'm past that. I guess I'm too old to bitch about this stuff anymore.

This, oh so much. I look back at some of the garbage I had on the NES/SNES and what I paid for them compared to today and just laugh.

[bucky60]

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Pretty much. They say if you like the game your expectations are low or you aren't someone who is as much of a gamer.

No, the entire purpose of the thread was to call out those that have issues. And that if you have issues, then your expectations are unreasonably high. And they used less flattering lingo. That's what I reacted to.

I only said some gamers feel if the game isn't to thier liking thay they are owed something (from the developers)

In what was basically a call out thread against anyone with issues, the stuff in bold has some implications. Maybe I over-reacted to you, but my message was really for the flavor and direction of the thread. And I ask you, why then, are you not commenting on those being critical of posters that have some reasonable issues with the past Madden games and some things they see in 12?

[HammerOfGod]

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For those saying that some of our expecations are too high, I must ask. We played better Madden games than this one six years ago, for systems that had lower capabilities than these do.

Is it really to much to expect that they can make a better football game than the one they made in 2005 or 2006? I don't think it is. I can't justify dropping money, especially 60 bucks on something that has glaring issues.

I'm one of those people who can't just sit back and enjoy the game for what it is. Having it be fun, and having it be technically sound are one in the same for me.

[bucky60]

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Oh yes it does....the simpler message is to be thankful for what you have....and to remember where you came from. Just saying...if you grew up in the 70's and 80's you should appreciate the games now and the advancements that have been made.

And I say, compared to the advancements that other games have already made, and advancements that this game had 7 years ago? It's not unreasonable to have higher expectations than to just accept what it currently is. And those that do have those reasonable higher expectations should not be called names or called out. If you are fine with madden as is, that's fine with me. But don't talk down to others that expect more, especially when there expectations are reasonable.

It's like, you want nobody to comment negatively on your posts, while some of your posts unfairly blasts others.