Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

[bucky60]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

Madden 12 for me, made pretty big strides from Madden 11.

This is good to hear.

[justtxyank]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

Man, I've played more games now, and aside from the commentary this game is really good. I don't know if there are any major glitches yet, but I am thoroughly enjoying franchise mode. If they could just have good commentary I would be in love with this game.

[kjcheezhead]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

I disagree. EA planned to address franchise in 12 even before Madden 11 was released. It wasn't heat that made them make these addition. This was planned all along. Next year commentary will be fixed and that won't be a result of the bad press or heat. EA talked about addressing in 13 two months ago.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

[nhiverson]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

So what happens after next year when the next gen consoles get close are they going to get it right sooner rather then later like this gen I hope so.

[HammerOfGod]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

I really wasnt going to post here but oh well...

Have you actually played the retail version or are you just going by previous games or someone elses opinion?

No, I haven't. I don't need to to know that O-line/D-line interactions haven't changed and weight and skills aren't properly measured. Same story different year. 2 weeks from now, there will be several people complaining about just the things I'm talking about, and there will be videos on youtube talking about how the devs got it wrong yet again in several key areas.

Hell, just read the thread about how DE's can't generate a pass rush and there are multiple DT's getting double digit sacks and having 5 sacks in one game. Simply not close to accurate. Linemen still relinquish their blocks at the most inopportune times. There are things that clearly aren't ever going to change this gen.

You can call me out for being overly critical of a game that I haven't played the full version of, but I will bet my house that I'll be proven right about everything I'm saying. EA is pretty transparent.

[The Bimmer]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

Looking forward to Tues. I am one of the small % that really liked the demo, so the full version I cant wait to play.

As far as the all the negative stuff goes, well...... thats just the way it is, I just picture this commercial and substitute Madden for the word yellow and more realism for the word self confidence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaFy0x_Uixo

[CRMosier_LM]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

I'm 50. I got you beat. And games/HD/Dev tools were a lot less sophisticated 30 years ago. (Back in the Hand Held football days, and the PONG Days).

Hardware, Development tools, Development techniques and technologies, and video games have gotten a LOT more sophisticated since then. There is nothing wrong with having reasonable expectations. Like expecting things that were in games 7 years ago, or fixing bugs that have existed in the game for almost a decade. There is nothing wrong with having your expectations a little higher.

I keep seeing this "we have higher expectations" stuff. It's not that you guys have higher expectations... It's that you find certain aspects of the game more important than the majority and vice versa. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinilns but it is ALWAYS the same people in every thread posting the same negative condescending garbage. Its simple If you dont like the game then dont play it. The first 24 hours this game was out the people on here were posting how great it is (even the guys like BKRich who traditionally aren't thrilled with the game.), now all of those guys are enjoying the game as we speak and we are left with the Negative Nancy's who for the most part haven't even played the retail version... They are just going off of someone else's opinion or the demo.

It seems like people feel that their opinion of what is good or bad is the truth and everyone else is wrong. That is the main issue, some people feel they should be catered to... Everyone else be damned. The MAJORITY of the people who purchase this game every year enjoy the heck out of it. EA knows that.

[CRMosier_LM]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

EA has been working this years offline franchise since Madden 10 was still a hot seller on the shelves... FACT not opinion.

[mellamoaaron]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

No, I haven't. I don't need to to know that O-line/D-line interactions haven't changed and weight and skills aren't properly measured. Same story different year. 2 weeks from now, there will be several people complaining about just the things I'm talking about, and there will be videos on youtube talking about how the devs got it wrong yet again in several key areas.

Hell, just read the thread about how DE's can't generate a pass rush and there are multiple DT's getting double digit sacks and having 5 sacks in one game. Simply not close to accurate. Linemen still relinquish their blocks at the most inopportune times. There are things that clearly aren't ever going to change this gen.

You can call me out for being overly critical of a game that I haven't played the full version of, but I will bet my house that I'll be proven right about everything I'm saying. EA is pretty transparent.

I just played with the Eagles and I got 2 sacks with Cullen Jenkins against the Bears and Julius Pepper has been harrassing me in my backfield all day. I don't know where you're getting your information from.

[CRMosier_LM]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

No, I haven't. I don't need to to know that O-line/D-line interactions haven't changed and weight and skills aren't properly measured. Same story different year. 2 weeks from now, there will be several people complaining about just the things I'm talking about, and there will be videos on youtube talking about how the devs got it wrong yet again in several key areas.

Hell, just read the thread about how DE's can't generate a pass rush and there are multiple DT's getting double digit sacks and having 5 sacks in one game. Simply not close to accurate. Linemen still relinquish their blocks at the most inopportune times. There are things that clearly aren't ever going to change this gen.

You can call me out for being overly critical of a game that I haven't played the full version of, but I will bet my house that I'll be proven right about everything I'm saying. EA is pretty transparent.

Uh if you want I can show post a video for you showing DE getting way more sacks than dt on a consistent basis. And yes RE gets plenty as well. I'm in year 2 of my offline franchise and ends or olb get plenty of sacks. So actually the ignore button is in effect because until you have played retail version you are basically commenting on things you dont know for certain.

[Tatguy80]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

I been having tones of fun with this Madden. Sure there mite be some minor issues, but you get those with every game. All in all this is a great Madden game.

[Celtic34]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

I just call things as I see them. I think people need to get over themselves. It's ok to post things you'd like to be improved. It's ok to like the game. Then post that. The sky is not falling. It's like you think we are all negative people. I'm actually a very glass is half full sort of person which is funny. If Jerry Jones drafts Quincy Carter that's a bad move. If Danny Ainge trades for Kevin Garnett hurray!

I personally think some of you guys hear criticism and it's like the sky is falling to you. If someone likes a game and posts something positive it doesn't bother me. If someone says they don't like some of the way linebackers react in this game, it doesn't bother me.

What do you expect people to talk about? It's a forum for madden. I don't know what you expect. Isn't that what a forum is for? For people to express their likes, dislikes, concerns, enjoyment whatever?

It's when this becomes a personal war and a me vs you, I'm better because I'm positive thing or vice versa is when it becomes a problem. It's stupid.

If you like the game there are many threads on this forum where people like it. Post what you like about it. That's fine. Read the impressions thread. Most of it is positive and are people enjoying the game.

[HammerOfGod]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

Uh if you want I can show post a video for you showing DE getting way more sacks than dt on a consistent basis. And yes RE gets plenty as well. I'm in year 2 of my offline franchise and ends or olb get plenty of sacks. So actually the ignore button is in effect because until you have played retail version you are basically commenting on things you dont know for certain.

From Pasta Padre's impressions.

Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defensive ends. Looking at my franchise stats it is evidenced by Jason Jones leading the league in sacks with 18. I believe in one game a top DT sacked me five times and don’t remember a game with a DE getting more than two. Ends tend to get the QB if they run outside of the pocket but the tackles collapse the pocket. Simulations favor the ends as they should in sacks.

[bucky60]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

I keep seeing this "we have higher expectations" stuff. It's not that you guys have higher expectations... It's that you find certain aspects of the game more important than the majority and vice versa.

No. Did you read the thread? People are being accused of having unrealistic expectations, and that they should just enjoy the game for what it is. People in this thread are being told they CAN'T have reasonable issues with the game.

Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions

Exactly. So why are people blasting those that are bringing up valid issues?

but it is ALWAYS the same people in every thread posting the same negative condescending garbage.

Have you read the thread? Who is being condescending?

Its simple If you dont like the game then dont play it.

Really? So you're telling me that my only option is to not buy it? I can't read reviews, some of them written by OS staff, and comment. I can't buy the game and mention the things that are still problems with the game, or new things that are problems with the game? You seriously don't see what's wrong with your stance?

The first 24 hours this game was out the people on here were posting how great it is (even the guys like BKRich who traditionally aren't thrilled with the game.),

Good, I like to hear it. I'm not trying to stifle good comments. I'm not trying to ridicule posters making positive comments on Madden. Why do you feel the need to do those things to posters that comment on legitimate issues. Some of them are coming from OS staff members in reviews.

now all of those guys are enjoying the game as we speak and we are left with the Negative Nancy's who for the most part haven't even played the retail version... They are just going off of someone else's opinion or the demo.

Here you go AGAIN.

It seems like people feel that their opinion of what is good or bad is the truth and everyone else is wrong. That is the main issue, some people feel they should be catered to... Everyone else be damned. The MAJORITY of the people who purchase this game every year enjoy the heck out of it. EA knows that.

The irony in your post is absolutely amazing. LOL.

[Celtic34]

Re: Wow...is anyone having fun with this yet?

I usually think I'm totally wrong and it's all lies lol. Just to be different.