I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

[jwmcards]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

Ok, thanks. I may test this out for myself. It is infuriating though. I just had my last game in my OD in NCAA give me the transfer failed earlier today (I'm 10-0 #2 w/Clemson) so it will have to be resimmed to make sure my win sticks, now I have this mess with Madden.

The sad thing is I have Deus Ex sitting here, waiting to be played, but I gotta have my football fix. Actually, I could probably finish a lot of other games if it wasn't for having to always play a football/baseball/basketball game first......(yeah, I went a tad askew, oh well).

Anyway, great find man. If I can finish the test tonight with the Madden classes I'll post the results (but I think you're right).

[imskykid]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

Everything went fairly smoothly with the draft, nothing absurd or out there...but when I checked on everything after the UDFAs appeared, looks like the Panthers went ahead and signed an undrafted QB who was 84 OVR same as Cam. It's not 84? either, it's a solid, definite 84 and I doubled checked to make sure he wasn't a draft pick and he wasn't.

Check out this thread: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...d-rookies.html

The OP was seeing a lot of solid white 90+ UDFA cornerbacks whose ratings didn't have a ? and were solid white. But, when he went in to edit the player's ratings, it showed they were only 77. It seems to be some sort of visual glitch/bug where some of the rating show up white but still don't reflect their true rating yet.

[Actinguy1]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

Starting QB Lineup, year two, 1st week of regular season. Posting to observe the CPU logic (and, possibly, why QBs were chosen where they were during the draft). MU=Made Up Rookie

BEARS: Cutler 86, Enderle 66, McCamish MU 48
BENGALS: Dalton 77, Pryor 68, Ruel MU 50
BILLS: Fitzpatrick 82, Keenum 76, McKie MU 62
BRONCOS: Orton 83, Tebow 80, Perry MU 48
BROWNS: McCoy 84, Wallace 71, Brown 63
BUCCS: Freeman 88, Tolzien 69, Tribble 45 (I THINK Tribble is a real undrafted rookie)
CARDS: Kolb 85, Skelton 76, Austin MU 62
CHARGERS: Rivers 96, Moore 75, Morgan MU 45
CHIEFS: Cassel 86, Stanzi 75, McFadden MU 45
COLTS: Manning 98, Crist 71, Ramsey MU 57
COWBOYS: Romo 87, Tannehill 77, Bruening MU 49, West MU 49
DOLPHINS: Luck 84, Hall 70, Sampson MU 47
EAGLES: Vick 89, Kafka 72, Gillespie MU 49
FALCONS: Ryan 92, Foles 72, Jones MU 47
49ers: Thomas (inj 2 weeks) 77, Kaepernick 76, Mannion MU 54
GIANTS: Manning 89, Brown 71 (year 1 MU), Holliday MU 69
JAGS: Garrard 83, Gabbert 81, Vaughan MU 42
JETS: Sanchez 84, McElroy 70, Kelly MU 51
LIONS: Wheeden 85, Stafford 81, Mueller MU 48
PACKERS: Rodgers 99, Flynn 75, Doakes MU 50
PANTHERS: Newton 83, Clausen 74, Blake MU 45
PATS: Brady 97, Mallett 75, Cummings MU 50
RAIDERS: Campbell 81, Persa 68, Harpole MU 39
RAMS: Bradford 91, Lindley 80, Crow MU 44
RAVENS: Flacco 89, Moniz 65, Taylor 64
REDSKINS: Davis 79, Hasselbeck 77, Harris 68
SAINTS: Brees 95, Canfield 70, Daniel 66
SEAHAWKS: Jones 82, McNabb 79, Jackson 72
STEELERS Roethlisberger 95, Wilson 74, Cousins MU 43
TEX: Schaub 88, Yates 71, Strong MU 46
TITANS: Locker 80, Smith 65, Federick MU 41
VIKINGS: Ponder 79, Webb 71, Ferguson MU 40

FINDINGS: Most of the third string QBs are made up rookis in the 40's OVR. One or two made-up QB's in the 60's OVR made second string.

[LivingLegend]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

I see an inconsistency right away.

Why would the Vikings release Mcnabb for a player with the same overall?

Here's what I think, I have noticed that nearly ALL of the contracts with the game are wrong. Aaron Rodgers just signed a new deal a while back for example yet becomes a FA after one season. I am betting it is like that all across the board.

I'm thinking once the rosters with corrected contracts are released it may fix this.

[Actinguy1]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

I've heard others saying the contract issues are related to the Player's Union. Madden isn't allowed to use the real contracts. That's the rumor, anyway.

I assume the Vikings released McNabb because he's 34. He's declined to 79. Ponder has INclined to 79.

[imskykid]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

I've heard others saying the contract issues are related to the Player's Union. Madden isn't allowed to use the real contracts. That's the rumor, anyway.

I assume the Vikings released McNabb because he's 34. He's declined to 79. Ponder has INclined to 79.

I would MUCH rather have them release an old guy to let a young guy play, especially a 1st rounder. This is a good thing IMO.

[vequintana]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

Was the QB a solid 84 BEFORE the cuts were made? If so, my understanding is that is a real QB. What was the name? Any undrafted rookies...actually undrafted or made up...should have question marks until AT LEAST week 3.

I'm sorry, I left that game an hour ago and i'm not sure I saved since it was a test file.

It was the very first thing I checked immediately after the offseason depth chart ordering. He was a rookie. He was a solid 84. I clicked my left stick to bring up the player details and scrolled up to awards where it says where players were drafted and it said that he entered the league as an undrafted free agent that year (2012). I too was confused as to why he didn't have question marks. I cycled through the rest of the team and found a lot of the undrafted rookies had solid numbers and a couple of drafted rookies did as well but there were also a few undrafted and most of the drafted that did have question marks? Perhaps I encountered a bug that I did poor job of reporting?

It's also possible I was using Madden draft classes if that means anything. I loaded my import file but it's possible it failed to load correctly. I'm currently going through NCAA now resaving my import files correctly just in case.

[Actinguy1]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

I'm sorry, I left that game an hour ago and i'm not sure I saved since it was a test file.

It was the very first thing I checked immediately after the offseason depth chart ordering. He was a rookie. He was a solid 84. I clicked my left stick to bring up the player details and scrolled up to awards where it says where players were drafted and it said that he entered the league as an undrafted free agent that year (2012). I too was confused as to why he didn't have question marks. I cycled through the rest of the team and found a lot of the undrafted rookies had solid numbers and a couple of drafted rookies did as well but there were also a few undrafted and most of the drafted that did have question marks? Perhaps I encountered a bug that I did poor job of reporting?

It's also possible I was using Madden draft classes if that means anything. I loaded my import file but it's possible it failed to load correctly. I'm currently going through NCAA now resaving my import files correctly just in case.

It could be a Madden draft class thing, where a diamond expected to go in, say, the 7th round, went undrafted and ended up in your training camp. If that's the case, I guess it's working as designed? I haven't messed with that, I only use NCAA. Still not sure why he would be unlocked that early though, unless it's the glitch the other guy mentioned when he was responding to your post.

[Actinguy1]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

2012 Draft. Same 100/0 settings (updated to reflect new future star QB's). Generally, it looked good. There was some silliness though.

Six punters were drafted. Two in fifth round, 1 in sixth round, three in seventh round.

10 kickers were drafted, three in sixth round, seven in seventh round. All that works for me.

There was some drama in the first round, when 1st overall projected DT Jerel Worthy out of Michigan State fell all the way to 17th overall (Falcons). QB Danny O'Brien out of Maryland, projected in the top ten, didn't go until 25th overall (49ers).

I enjoyed watching them fall...and the fact that QBs weren't in high demand this year in general...but speaking of QBs...

After progression and re-signing/releasing, the 49ers had two QB's. Darron Thomas (83) and Colin Kaepernick (82). Cool. But then they decide to pick up QB Kyle Orton (84) in FA.

They now have three QB's, 84, 83, and 82...and with their first pick (25th overall), they choose a quarterback? Two of their three 80's QB's are under the age of 25.

Granted, the QB fell from the top 10 to 25th overall, so he was a steal. And more importantly, my fault for leaving their QB priority at 100 after they bought Orton. But something worth mentioning.

Anyhow, onward to the offseason!

2012 Drafted QBs:

1-3 BROWNS Tyler Wilson, Arkansas
1-25 49ERS: QB Danny O'Brien, Maryland (Fell from top ten, but this gives 49ers FOUR starting QBs)
2-38 RAIDERS: Sean Renfree, Duke (Serious need, surprised they didn't grab O'Brien in 1st round. All they had was QB Dan Persa, 68)
3-88 BILLS: Ryan Katz, Oregon State. Fitzpatrick needs a backup.
3-92 BEARS: Robert Griffin, Baylor. Cutler needs backup.
4-113 TEXANS: Randall Mackey, Ole Miss. Schaub's backup.
4-127 EAGLES: Geno Smith, WVU. Backup for Vick's fumble hands.
6-176 PACKERS: Matthew McGloin, Penn State. 3rd Stringer
7-220 BEARS: Matt Barkley, USC. Competing with Griffin for Cutler's number two?
7-222 SAINTS: Tino Sunseri, Pitt. Time to start thinking about Brees' retirement...

[Actinguy1]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

2013 QB Lineup:
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Bears: Cutler (88), Griffin (75), Barkley (67)
Bengals: Dalton (84), Pryor (74), Davis MU (40)
Bills: Fitzpatrick (83), Katz (76), Thomas MU (37)
Broncos: Keenum (82), Tebow (76), Carter MU (50) Keenum was picked up in offseason FA
Browns: Wilson (87), McCoy (84), Federick MU (50)
Buccs: Freeman 90, Tolzien 74, Walker MU 44
Cards: Kolb 86, Skelton 74, Stephens MU 43
Chargers: Rivers 97, Moore 80, Marshall MU 41
Chiefs: Cassel 85, Stanzi 82, Owens MU 60
Colts: Manning 97, Crist 75, Milhollin MU 48
Cowboys: Romo 88, Tannehill 79, Morris 71
Dolphins: Luck 90, Kaepernick 82, Robinson 62 Robinson is a real UDFA
Eagles: Vick 86, G. Smith 73, Perry MU 47
Falcons: Ryan 92, Foles 73, Perry MU 52
49ers: O'Brien 85, Orton 84, Thomas 83
Giants: Manning 90, Brown 75, Holliday 72 Brown and Holliday are fake UDFAs from 2011 and 2012 respectively
Jaguars: Gabbert 86, Ritchie (68), Phillips (66) Phillips is a real UDFA, I don't think Ritchie is.
Jets: Sanchez 84, McElroy 76, Marshall MU 45
Lions: Wheeden 92, Stafford 79, Terry MU 47
Packers: Rodgers 97, Flynn 74, McGloin 69
Panthers: Newton 90, Clausen 71, Meyer MU 40
Patriots: Brady 97, Mallett 80, Belton MU 50, Peebles MU 40
Raiders: Renfree 80, Persa 68, Younger MU 49
Rams: Bradford 88, Lindley 86 (I had to cut the third QB amongst others for cap)
Ravens: Flacco 89, Taylor 69, Moniz 46 (Look at Moniz' drop from last year! He was 65 as a rookie!)
Redskins: Davis 86, Harris 58, James MU 49
Saints: Brees 93, Sunseri 66, Gottschalk MU 50
Seahawks: Jones 89, Trotter 64, Barker MU 49 Trotter is real UDFA
Steelers: Roethlisberger 95, Wilson 80, Joeckel MU 42
Texans: Schaub 89, Mackey 73, McKie MU 41
Titans: Locker 87, Yates 77, Riggs MU 57
Vikings: Ponder 85, Henne 76, Barrett MU 49

Findings: Only one made-up UFDA QB from 2011 and one from 2012 are still on a depth chart...and they happen to be on the same one, Giants. Interesting...and to be honest, I don't have a problem with that. To be fair, I'm not even glancing at the other positions, so there could be an epidemic elsewhere. I'll probably go another year or two, then I'm going to restart and make cuts myself to see how that pans out.

[Hibachi]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

Can someone explain where to setup this coaching strategy? is it done only in the off season when you control all 32 teams?

Thanks

[Reed the Raven]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

Is there any negative effect of doing this during the pre-season of your first year? Also, for teams that already have a "Franchise Quarterback", can I reduce their priority to 50 without anything bad happening? Thanks.

[EccentricMeat]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

One thing I'd like to suggest (I haven't tested this so I have NO idea if it will work), but my idea is that after you set all these priorities, you should find the teams that you think need to draft a specific position in the first or second round.

Now, once you go to these teams, change all the priorities for every position (besides kickers and punters, obviously) to 90 EXCEPT for the position they need. Keep this position at 100.

So if the Raiders need to take a QB, you would set every position to 90 priority except for QB.

If someone would try this and tell me if it works, that would be terrific!

[jcc309]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

One thing I'd like to suggest (I haven't tested this so I have NO idea if it will work), but my idea is that after you set all these priorities, you should find the teams that you think need to draft a specific position in the first or second round.

Now, once you go to these teams, change all the priorities for every position (besides kickers and punters, obviously) to 90 EXCEPT for the position they need. Keep this position at 100.

So if the Raiders need to take a QB, you would set every position to 90 priority except for QB.

If someone would try this and tell me if it works, that would be terrific!

I would assume (without testing it) that that would just make kickers and punters be taken in the early rounds as most everything needs to be left at 100 for it to work properly. Also, what if they had multiple needs?

Now if someone could try this, that would be great. If your idea works, we may have hit the jackpot.

[Ike Slider2]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

Just a question in these drafts you've done have there been any differences by playbook like 3-4s aiming more for linebackers than a 4-3, a run heavy offense drafting hbs teams drafting according to a 4-3 end 3-4 linebacker etc.