Unnecessary Roughness!

[EccentricMeat]

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I have actually had a few pass interference calls on me, but never the CPU. However, I have never seen an unnecessary roughness penalty called ever.

The Madden devs have clipping and block in the back penalty mixed up. You would think that an official NFL game and such an established title as Madden would AT LEAST have the penalties implemented correctly.

Actually, I don't think they have them "mixed up", they just have both penalties called as "clipping". Just saves them lines of code and lines of audio. Lazy, but it is what it is.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I've just never had the ref call an illegal block in the back. It's always called as clipping.

[mr_president]

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I always disable roughing the passer and kicker.....I wish I could disable this as well,at least until it works right.

[Argooos]

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It's really sad that the only penalties ever called with any regularity are against the offense. I never even see d-linemen jumping offside. It makes for a much less realistic playing experience when the opposing DBs can completely interrupt a route 15 yard down the field and not only is the offense not rewarded for this, but they are actually punished because an otherwise perfect pass goes incomplete. It's especially annoying when said pass would have been a game winning reception.

[KBLover]

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And as to everyone complaining about the lack of PI/Illegal Contact calls, EA doesn't put these in (unless you tackle a player before the ball gets to him) because they don't have ANY WR/DB interaction animations (which is incredibly sad and pathetic), they don't have any PI animations, and they don't have any illegal-contact animations. Animations trigger penalties, and since none of these animations are present (except for tackling a WR), there are no penalties.

You don't have to tackle a WR to get PI called.

The two I saw called against the CPU (in the same game no less!) the DB didn't tackle the WR. On one, he ran into the WR (made full contact) but they sorta "bounced" (no animation) and went around but the flag was thrown (it was the slants play the coverage the DB was taking ran him into the slant coming from the other side and I had thrown the ball).

The second time, there actual was some sort of animation. The WR acted like he got shoved as the DB went through him to make the INT. Now why doesn't that happen more often...

Actually, I don't think they have them "mixed up", they just have both penalties called as "clipping". Just saves them lines of code and lines of audio. Lazy, but it is what it is.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I've just never had the ref call an illegal block in the back. It's always called as clipping.

Yeah, every time I see an animation for "clipping" it's always the illegal block in the back, not a low block/chop block on an engaged player.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

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I'm playing a game RIGHT NOW in my Franchise, Dolphins (me) vs. Jets (CPU). A throw a pass to my TE on an out route, he catches it, turns upfield, and his foot taps the out of bounds line. Right after this foot tap, Darelle Revis comes over and makes the tackle. BUT there's a flag on the play, unnecessary roughness on Darelle Revis!

This is the first time I've EVER seen an unnecessary roughness call in any football game. Has this happened to anyone else?

Nice to hear! I have had plenty of times where I thought the flag should be thrown for a late hit out of bonds but never seen it. I just really assumed it was not in the game, but I guess it is.

[stp2081]

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I never even see d-linemen jumping offside.

This really pisses me off. If you turn the offsides slider up to 100 though, you can catch CPU linebackers jumping offsides and if you hike it at the right time, you get a free play. Had this happen twice, but sadly it only happened on run plays, so I couldn't pull off the classic "throw a deep bomb on the free play" attempt.

[Big FN Deal]

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This is the type of stuff I hope they put some attention to detail in for M13. Penalties are a great way to regulate "arcade" play in Madden, if done well. With all the defenseless receiver penalties being called this year, the hit stick should carry a strong chance of a personal foul. This is not NFL Blitz for Pete's sake.

[YeOldTonk]

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Seems I get a holding and false start being called at least once every series when I'm on offense. How many times are they called during a game on average?

Does the game really take in to effect the "home field advantage" of having false start calls being made more on the visiting team than the home team?