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  • FreAk47
    Straight cash homie
    • Jan 2011
    • 247

    #136
    Re: Madden NFL 13 Features Playbook Kicks Off April 25th, with Presentation and Gamep

    Originally posted by SageWonder
    I'd like to think that most of us rolled our eyes at the overly "fantastical" description of Madden that EA tries to feed us every year. There's nothing wrong with being proud of your work, but describing it as the 2nd coming is standard EA fare that I'm pretty sure we are all very well aware of right now.
    Exactly, do I want it to be true? Yes, do I think it's going to be true? Not at all...

    I read through the Madden 12 feature list that someone posted and it's like the exact same thing...a bunch of things that were over dramatized and ended up to be hardly noticeable in the game. That "All new collision system" they yacked about last year...pffffff.

    No physics, no peace.

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    • Big FN Deal
      Banned
      • Aug 2011
      • 5993

      #137
      Re: Madden NFL 13 Features Playbook Kicks Off April 25th, with Presentation and Gamep

      Ok, I am about to throw a wild idea out about "connected career modes". lol

      What if they are allowing gamers to exchange team based stats, accolades, scores and whatnot, from each others career modes?

      Meaning, for example if 32 different people each have a separate offline franchise controlling different teams, they can replace any simulated CPU vs CPU game in their franchise with a CPU vs HUM or HUM vs HUM game in someone else's franchise, through the internet. Whenever the two teams each is controlling meet on the schedule, each could choose to not to replace that game or maybe actually play each other if they want, like with the old Live Opponent feature from M07.

      Presumably they could do the same thing with superstar mode and online franchise too.

      So someone completely not interested in playing a full online franchise and scheduling games could essentially still enjoy a more robust connected franchise experience.

      I hope people understand what the heck I am talking about, I really went off the speculating deep end with this one. lol

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      • josephid
        Rookie
        • Aug 2010
        • 36

        #138
        They spend so much time on intros or cut scenes that I skip. Can we just get a save option for anytime in the game. Also, a user camera option. Last, how about a user, button configuration, controller option.

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        • Bulls321974
          Rookie
          • Oct 2010
          • 335

          #139
          Why don't I believe these announcements as much as I probably should? Maybe because it has been like that pretty much every year since the game was available for next-gen consoles?

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          • Phobia
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2008
            • 11623

            #140
            Re: Madden NFL 13 Features Playbook Kicks Off April 25th, with Presentation and Gamep

            Originally posted by Big FN Deal
            Ok, I am about to throw a wild idea out about "connected career modes". lol

            What if they are allowing gamers to exchange team based stats, accolades, scores and whatnot, from each others career modes?

            Meaning, for example if 32 different people each have a separate offline franchise controlling different teams, they can replace any simulated CPU vs CPU game in their franchise with a CPU vs HUM or HUM vs HUM game in someone else's franchise, through the internet. Whenever the two teams each is controlling meet on the schedule, each could choose to not to replace that game or maybe actually play each other if they want, like with the old Live Opponent feature from M07.

            Presumably they could do the same thing with superstar mode and online franchise too.

            So someone completely not interested in playing a full online franchise and scheduling games could essentially still enjoy a more robust connected franchise experience.

            I hope people understand what the heck I am talking about, I really went off the speculating deep end with this one. lol
            I understand completely what you are saying and think that would be a "so so" feature.

            1) Having some guy on my friends list who plays on rookie and likes beating the CPU 107 to 14, I for sure don't want to see this cats scores & stats in my franchise!

            2) This is just more stuff to not work correctly and bring in a whole other wirl wind of issues. If they can't make regular ol franchise work correctly they sure as hell would "F" this up. Fix & Tune regular offline franchise where it works as intended & all bugs removed THEN think about these kind of grand ideas.

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            • kbmnm247
              Rookie
              • Nov 2003
              • 456

              #141
              Re: Madden NFL 13 Features Playbook Kicks Off April 25th, with Presentation and Gamep

              Originally posted by mestevo
              And? That describes a lot more than 'just some social gimmick'

              Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
              I guess I was mistaken. I took your post as nothing having to do with social sites like twitter and fb whereas the EA website said it 100% had to do with social media.

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              • kbmnm247
                Rookie
                • Nov 2003
                • 456

                #142
                Re: Madden NFL 13 Features Playbook Kicks Off April 25th, with Presentation and Gamep

                Originally posted by josephid
                They spend so much time on intros or cut scenes that I skip. Can we just get a save option for anytime in the game. Also, a user camera option. Last, how about a user, button configuration, controller option.
                I agree with this. The EA cut scenes just seem so fake and contrived that I end up skipping through most. Whereas 2K's cut scenes and The Show's "cutscenes" flow naturally while playing the game. For example, is it even possible to show a coach on an NFL sideline with only 3 people in a 20 foot radius of him? Yet that is just what the madden cutscene for a coach is. It shows the coach on his headset yacking about something with like 5 people total on the screen with him. Just ends up looking silly.

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                • ghettogeeksta
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 2632

                  #143
                  Re: Madden NFL 13 Features Playbook Kicks Off April 25th, with Presentation and Gamep

                  Madden 13 will be built from the ground up. Does this mean they will be replacing the old canned animation system with a physics based system like NHL and Backbreaker? Because this is the only way I am buying this game in August.

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                  • ch46647
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 3514

                    #144
                    Re: Madden NFL 13 Features Playbook Kicks Off April 25th, with Presentation and Gamep

                    Originally posted by ghettogeeksta
                    Madden 13 will be built from the ground up. Does this mean they will be replacing the old canned animation system with a physics based system like NHL and Backbreaker? Because this is the only way I am buying this game in August.
                    Everybody is hoping this is the case. Most likely we will have to wait until next-gen systems for this kind of gameplay though.

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                    • bichettehappens
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 2547

                      #145
                      Originally posted by Phobia
                      Who wouldn't want FIFA physics

                      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/A4zpU8w4QAM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                      Oh my goodness that's hilarious lol. Careful what you wish for I guess haha

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                      • ghettogeeksta
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 2632

                        #146
                        Re: Madden NFL 13 Features Playbook Kicks Off April 25th, with Presentation and Gamep

                        Originally posted by bichettehappens
                        Oh my goodness that's hilarious lol. Careful what you wish for I guess haha

                        I dont care, I would still buy Madden. Im tired of seeing the same old animations since Madden 2001, they are so stale!

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                        • bichettehappens
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 2547

                          #147
                          Originally posted by ghettogeeksta
                          Madden 13 will be built from the ground up. Does this mean they will be replacing the old canned animation system with a physics based system like NHL and Backbreaker? Because this is the only way I am buying this game in August.
                          I never played Backbreaker but just watched a video of some gameplay. I think that would definitely be a step in the right direction. While most of the hits do look very realistic and organic, there were several that looked well worse than the canned animations we're used to (in my opinion), typically when a second defender came into contact with the play or when someone was hit mid-move.

                          Also saw a lot of the things Madden critics complain about (unrealistic spin move, stopping on a dime, no real "weight" to the players when running and changing direction).

                          It would be cool if Madden acquired that technology and then expanded on it and made improvements. Honestly I'd be surprised if they haven't at least explored that option, but with that said I doubt they ultimately went in that direction.

                          I wouldn't expect to see a full fledged physics system until next gen though, and I would hope they've had a team tasked with developing the infrastructure for that ahead of time but that's probably just me being way too optimistic.

                          Didn't mean to stray so far off the topic of this thread though, while the "every pixel re-invented" line makes it seem like we're in for a whole new system, I'd bet it's just another re-branding of an upgraded version of our current system. Which I'm fine with for now

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                          • RGiles36
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3957

                            #148
                            Re: Madden NFL 13 Features Playbook Kicks Off April 25th, with Presentation and Gamep

                            Originally posted by bichettehappens
                            I never played Backbreaker but just watched a video of some gameplay. I think that would definitely be a step in the right direction. While most of the hits do look very realistic and organic, there were several that looked well worse than the canned animations we're used to (in my opinion), typically when a second defender came into contact with the play or when someone was hit mid-move.
                            I agree with you completely. I personally think mo-capped animations take a bad rap.

                            Think about how well APF animates -- not talking user control -- just pure animations. Straight mo-cap!

                            I think ideally, a combo of both physics and mo-cap is the sweet spot. The notion that the introduction of Backbreaker-and-FIFA-like physics to Madden is a cure-all is unfounded in my opinion.
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                            • kg54mvp1
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 258

                              #149
                              picture of the saints huh? this either means madden 13 will have a bounty to ruin gamers' careers by making it an awful game, or spy on gamers and their thoughts to make it a great game!

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                              • Phobia
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 11623

                                #150
                                Re: Madden NFL 13 Features Playbook Kicks Off April 25th, with Presentation and Gamep

                                Originally posted by bichettehappens
                                Oh my goodness that's hilarious lol. Careful what you wish for I guess haha
                                For the record since it seems some people didn't catch the sarcasm. I was being sarcastic that people really want the FIFA animation engine in the game even though it was HORRIBLE. I traded in FIFA 12 after like 3 weeks because I could not stand the physic engine. People would literally run you over online over and over and zero cards were given.

                                I have since bought FIFA 12 on PC and learning to like it. I mainly just wanted a sport game on my PC.

                                Originally posted by rgiles36
                                I agree with you completely. I personally think mo-capped animations take a bad rap.

                                Think about how well APF animates -- not talking user control -- just pure animations. Straight mo-cap!

                                I think ideally, a combo of both physics and mo-cap is the sweet spot. The notion that the introduction of Backbreaker-and-FIFA-like physics to Madden is a cure-all is unfounded in my opinion.
                                I agree with Rgiles completely on this. Wow we agreed again man

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