Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

[azdawgpound]

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Wow, Just wow. I seriously can't believe this right now. This is worse because I'm stuck with Donny Moore's ratings...

u forgot his never right rosters neither lmao

[Tweeg]

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Oh excuse me sir, my bad let me refrain from explaining my point of view on the topic for you.

On topic **Ignoring above user** I think Team specific overalls could be the reason for lack of editing. Another words Adrian Peterson won't appear as a "90" overall to every team. He might be a 85 to the Saints, a 87 to the Bears, or 90 to the Vikings. So editing all these players ratings would be impossible I think.

Now as far as equipment and numbers there is zero reason i see not to be able to edit

Editing ratings would/should be possible. The perceived overalls are only adjusted based on the different schemes each team has set up. If you have your RB set to favor Receiving Back you will probably view Darren Sproles as 90. If you go and change that to Power Back you will probably see him as a 75 or something. His actual ratings have not changed at all, but by changed your teams calculation of his perceived overall.

[Phobia]

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Editing ratings would/should be possible. The perceived overalls are only adjusted based on the different schemes each team has set up. If you have your RB set to favor Receiving Back you will probably view Darren Sproles as 90. If you go and change that to Power Back you will probably see him as a 75 or something. His actual ratings have not changed at all, but by changed your teams calculation of his perceived overall.

Good Point, you might be right. Global overalls would stay the same. Could it be a XP issue??? Guys rated to high screws up balance with XP?

[PPerfect_CJ]

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Good answer, so we both agree on something

I also agree on the numbers and epuipment edits. I can't see a reason why we shouldn't be able to at least do THAT.

[moneal2001]

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On topic **Ignoring above user** I think Team specific overalls could be the reason for lack of editing. Another words Adrian Peterson won't appear as a "90" overall to every team. He might be a 85 to the Saints, a 87 to the Bears, or 90 to the Vikings. So editing all these players ratings would be impossible I think.

OVR is going to fluctuate now with the addition of the production rating and the progression system they are putting in. the system should be able to read the ratings and produce a OVR for each scheme on the fly. if it can't then they really dropped the ball.

i believe its more about goals and xp costs for abilities. changing positions for a player might skew those and allow you to game the system.

[Phobia]

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I also agree on the numbers and epuipment edits. I can't see a reason why we shouldn't be able to at least do THAT.

Yea I feel same way. I see ratings maybe playing a issue this year with some of the changes to XP and team specific ratings. But I honestly don't see any reason equipment and numbers cant be changed.

[aholbert32]

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No complaining gets nothing done faster or really anything. Voicing a concern maybe but complaining doesn't accomplish anything. Unless they are weak. That is like saying a crying kid who had his ball taken away will get it back. Won't happen unless some outside force causes it.

But my main gripe with this was that complaining has more justification than those looking at the positives. Neither side has more justification it is just how you want to view something. So something was taken out can you tell me why if not than complaining to complain is pointless. Unless you know the reason behind something you are just complaining. Your only fact is it was removed and no reason behind it. And I think it was already stated in this thread that they couldn't get it to work correctly in time without it causing problems in why it wasn't put in.

The bold part I will agree with but neither side wether positive or negative has more justification. Otherwise they should just throw out the new engine since people will probably complain about it with some wierd animation, because the positive doesn't have any say.

I just gave you an example where complaining on this forum and with a video game worked and you still say complaining doesnt work. LOL.

Actually I know why they removed it. They removed those features because they prioritized other features. They were creating CCM and did not feel editing, 32 team franchise and NCAA imports were important enough to feature them in the mode. They felt Twitter feeds, Trey Wingo and the XP system were more important and easier to implement.

Im really having problem following your logic. Again the people who are praising CCM havent actually played CCM. They are praising what Looman and others have said about the mode. Now if in a few weeks we see videos and it confirms that improved AI logic and all of the things Looman says will work....those people will be justified in praising the mode. Why? Because they have proof that the mode works.

The complainers are justified NOW. They know the mode doesnt have features they want. They know that those features wont be added to 13 (only editing is still up in the air). They know that even if the mode is great, they wont be able to play the game the way they wanted to and have in the past. They have every right to complain and let EA know that they want those features back.

[wallofhate]

This sucks for the majority of people who play madden. It is definitely strange that this was not included but like others are saying I cant honestly see them taking this away from the user "just to do it". That being said im still looking forward to and buying madden without a doubt. The game looks like its got alot of promise and if im not mistaken isn't Kane 669 still handling tne accessories and numbers for the players? He is usually spot on with that type of stuff. Im part of the huge minority that doesnt really play seasons and just quick play games so it doesnt effect me nearly as much

[Tweeg]

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Good Point, you might be right. Global overalls would stay the same. Could it be a XP issue??? Guys rated to high screws up balance with XP?

I don't know..

I think EA was only gunning for the online crowd once again. If you're in one of these online CCs you don't want guys changing ratings without 'earning' the XP. Even if that is the case, it's really bothersome that you can't change numbers, equipment or positions as you please.

[bamabound2010]

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By the way linked this page to Looman on Twitter and he blocked me. What a guy...

[87Birdman]

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I disagree completely, I agree completely with Aholbert.

If anyone recalls in NCAA 12 I made a huge issue about EA not offering any input about the fixes. The topic went wide spread and got a ton of exposure. EA then called me on my cell phone on a Sunday Afternoon and spoke to me about a upcoming blog to inform the community AND to help look into other issues. The topic directly helped is my point.

Now did you whine/complain or go about it in a reasonable course of action because those are two different things in my eyes which could be were some the confusion is. Because I see a lot of complaing/whining post on here.

[Phobia]

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This sucks for the majority of people who play madden. It is definitely strange that this was not included but like others are saying I cant honestly see them taking this away from the user "just to do it". That being said im still looking forward to and buying madden without a doubt. The game looks like its got alot of promise and if im not mistaken isn't Kane 669 still handling tne accessories and numbers for the players? He is usually spot on with that type of stuff. Im part of the huge minority that doesnt really play seasons and just quick play games so it doesnt effect me nearly as much

Quick games you can make changes so you are good on that front.

[PPerfect_CJ]

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Yea I feel same way. I see ratings maybe playing a issue this year with some of the changes to XP and team specific ratings. But I honestly don't see any reason equipment and numbers cant be changed.

That's what I was thinking. Has to be the ratings. We just hafta hope that they decide to throw us a bone and give us the other edits. I'd be THRILLED with equipment and numbers. The cherry on top would be editing names!

[msdm27]

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Oh excuse me sir, my bad let me refrain from explaining my point of view on the topic for you.

On topic **Ignoring above user** I think Team specific overalls could be the reason for lack of editing. Another words Adrian Peterson won't appear as a "90" overall to every team. He might be a 85 to the Saints, a 87 to the Bears, or 90 to the Vikings. So editing all these players ratings would be impossible I think.

Now as far as equipment and numbers there is zero reason i see not to be able to edit

WHY?
If you think about it Team Specific Overalls (TSO) "technically" go by hard data, ratings are hard data, I'll explain myself:

TSO rates players by specifics measurements, setting more importance to certain ratings and then create a sub overall value to each player according to this formula.... This shouldn't change/be affected by what rating a player has.

So if A. Peterson is a 90 overall, a then a 90 for the Viking, 87 for the Texans and 85 for the Saints.... Why would the system not be able to adapt him being a 85 overall (with us modyfying his original ratings) and then converting those attributes to each specific system?

The system should be able to calculate any rating because it is hard data. The one issue could be that after editing a player he might not longer fit a team scheme, but I don't see how that would break the game in terms of coding.

[moneal2001]

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I don't know..

I think EA was only gunning for the online crowd once again. If you're in one of these online CCs you don't want guys changing ratings without 'earning' the XP. Even if that is the case, it's really bothersome that you can't change numbers, equipment or positions as you please.

but it could have been set up as an option for the commish of each league to control. just like quarter length or any other option they have control over. could be set to commish only even. and then people that cared about numbers could get their commish to edit those for them.