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  • CWSapp757
    SimWorld Draft Class Guru
    • Aug 2008
    • 4650

    #766
    Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

    Editing inside of the franchise was such a major thing for me. Although I may be in the minority, I can honestly say that I spend 65% of my time playing with roster in just about every game. Rather it's doing the NCAA roster as part of the community team, putting together my draft classes for NBA 2K or going through stats for every position and adjusting ratings based off player performance each season I'm messing with rosters in some shape or form.

    With that being said, this really is a vicious blow to me. I simply won't enjoy playing the game as much without the ability to edit every player to my liking. I will say that I am still interested in the game but I just can not go out on midnight as I've done for so many years to purchase this game this second it becomes available. It'll either be a rent or a used purchase.
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    • Senator Palmer
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 3314

      #767
      Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Clarification

      Originally posted by PGaither84
      :insert a bunch of foul language that would earn me a red card:

      Please don't give me a red card.

      ... and to think I was excited for Madden 13 for a few days. THIS killed it for me. I play offline and ALWAYS have my own custom changes to the rosters.
      Just when I was about to get over not being able to edit anything, this post comes along with that 49er avatar reminding me that when Ahmad Brooks came to the 9ers, he was coming off a stint at Middle Linebacker for the Bengals' 4-3. Now he makes his living as a 3-4 outside linebacker.

      Try making a move like that in Madden 13.
      Last edited by Senator Palmer; 06-13-2012, 12:54 PM.
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      • DNMHIII
        MVP
        • Feb 2011
        • 2355

        #768
        Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

        Originally posted by moneal2001
        dnmhii with all your game programming and design wisdom you should start a football game company. games are always buggy there are too many moving parts to design one without them. all the best designing in the world wouldn't prevent things from just not working together correctly.
        Come on now. If stuff like editing brings down the house it just really bad design plain and simple. I'm happy with all the additions even if I wouldn't use them, but using the "we didn't have time" or it would create instability" excuses is just poor planning, poor design, or both when it comes to core functions.

        You can do all the stuff you loved outside of CCM but you can't do it inside why? Maybe because you don't want your customer to do it or you didn't design or plan properly relative to what's important to you customer. It's really not hard to figure out.

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        • StayPlation82
          Pro
          • Apr 2008
          • 706

          #769
          Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

          I'll miss editing but I'm trying to figure out what I would have replaced it with in the design process specific to CCM and I can't find one...yet.
          "Accept victory and defeat in equanimity"

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          • TreFacTor
            MVP
            • Oct 2009
            • 1138

            #770
            Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

            Originally posted by StayPlation82
            I'll miss editing but I'm trying to figure out what I would have replaced it with in the design process specific to CCM and I can't find one...yet.
            kinect functionality?
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            • StayPlation82
              Pro
              • Apr 2008
              • 706

              #771
              Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

              Originally posted by TreFacTor
              kinect functionality?
              That's not CCM specific though.
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              • bucky60
                Banned
                • Jan 2008
                • 3288

                #772
                Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                Originally posted by moneal2001
                dnmhii with all your game programming and design wisdom you should start a football game company. games are always buggy there are too many moving parts to design one without them. all the best designing in the world wouldn't prevent things from just not working together correctly.
                The "real time" on the field game play and even getting stats to come out in a realistic fashion, there is truth to this. But all the other stuff around the game, like the franchise code and presentation, not nearly as much. That stuff should have been really solid by now.

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                • TreFacTor
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1138

                  #773
                  Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                  Originally posted by StayPlation82
                  That's not CCM specific though.
                  still could have been dumped...how much time went into it? Never saw anyone ask for it...how many of their fans own or use it? 18 million kinects sold, are 3 million of those to madden players? Time spent away from the main game is still time taken away. I would wager that it's the most useless addition to madden.
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                  • Jukeman
                    Showtime
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 10955

                    #774
                    Originally posted by Senator Palmer
                    Just when I was about to get over not being able to edit anything, this post comes along with that 49er avatar reminding me that when Ahmad Brooks came to the 9ers, he was coming off a stint at Middle Linebacker for the Bengals' 4-3. Now he makes his living as a 3-4 outside linebacker.

                    Try making a move like that in Madden 13.
                    I wonder with the TSO will players be looked at as football players instead of a positions, for example since WE CAN'T EDIT will a specific 4-3 DE be rating high in a 3-4 scheme as a OLB on a depth chart? How about DT's to DE's

                    How about that rookie CB that fits the mold of a potential good SS?

                    HB's to WR? FB to TE's???

                    My gut says no because it wasn't the case in HC09 if I remember correctly.

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                    • Jd_Seven
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 481

                      #775
                      Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                      "After some discussion, we agreed that Franchise mode is yours to control and that we needed to give you the ability to edit the ratings of any player in Franchise mode, whether they are veterans or the rookies you just imported from NCAA Football."

                      Clearly CC isn't yours to control, I just hope that in some possible way they can have it it. Makes me wonder if they took the edit out so you would HAVE to purchase the next series of Madden instead of just updating rosters and playing through using other user created rosters (even some users opening day rosters are more accurate that EA's official release so its no wonder people would be concerned to trust ONE GUY!).

                      You would have to be slightly ignorant if you think that technology isn't available or can't be implemented.

                      In reference to 2k and the NBA series, look at how they have a league wide info feed across teams, players, coaches and are informed just like how CC will be in EA. In this series, you have pretty much FULL customization from shoes, attributes and even signature moves both before, or during your "franchise". This isn't some new ground breaking tech that was just released this year.

                      EA should just address this in a proper professional manner, a tweet "stating not enough time" just doesn't cut it for me to be honest.
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                      • StayPlation82
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 706

                        #776
                        Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                        Originally posted by Jukeman
                        I wonder with the TSO will players be looked at as football players instead of a positions, for example since WE CAN'T EDIT will a specific 4-3 DE be rating high in a 3-4 scheme as a OLB on a depth chart? How about DT's to DE's

                        How about that rookie CB that fits the mold of a potential good SS?

                        HB's to WR? FB to TE's???

                        My gut says no because it wasn't the case in HC09 if I remember correctly.
                        A player's number rating won't change. Speed stays the same, block shed, tackling, etc... How a team rates them overall does. So a middle LB can play outside and be successful at the position, meet goals and progress, I don't think the labeled position matters. An 3-4 OLB with speed doesn't make a 4-3 DE because his position changed. It's because some guys have the skill set and from what I can tell a guys skill set won't change.
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                        • bichettehappens
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 2547

                          #777
                          Originally posted by TreFacTor
                          still could have been dumped...how much time went into it? Never saw anyone ask for it...how many of their fans own or use it? 18 million kinects sold, are 3 million of those to madden players? Time spent away from the main game is still time taken away. I would wager that it's the most useless addition to madden.
                          I've seen someone on Facebook, who I doubt has ever bought a sports game, comment that the Kinect stuff has him "actually considering playing a football game"

                          It's an appeal to casual gamers, which should come as no surprise to anyone at this point

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                          • SA1NT401
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3498

                            #778
                            Originally posted by CRMosier_LM
                            Same thing I said... until I tried it. Some of you folks need to come out from behind the walls you have built up. it doesn't take much effort to find a well run league that supports your individual style of play... Hell I work about 70-75 hours a week, have a 7 month old and 3 year old but still have time to get in 2-3 league games per week.
                            Have tried it. Was in a online franchise for a while. I don't find it enjoyable.

                            Different strokes....


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                            • bpac55
                              Pro
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 545

                              #779
                              Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                              The more you read quotes from last years release about how important they know editing is to us players the more it frustrates me that it is not in this years game. I truly find it unacceptable and it is making this a non purchase for me.

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                              • CWSapp757
                                SimWorld Draft Class Guru
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 4650

                                #780
                                Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                                Myself as well Saint. I tried one with a group of friends. I just couldn't get into it man. I don't knock everyone who does enjoy it but I don't think ill ever be able to get into online leagues.
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