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  • treq21
    Banned
    • Mar 2005
    • 419

    #991
    Originally posted by TreFacTor
    I agree, no one I know who plays madden comes to the internet for information regarding the game. Most of them get info word of mouth, and it's usually the wrong information. My nephew is a perfect example of this. He doesn't do his homework on any purchase that is less that $100....NOTHING. He was excited about Madden after only hearing about the infinity engine. After I gave him the down low, he was almost in tears. But he is also the type that will go out and buy the game day one, and then permanently give it to me the next day (it's been this way since madden 10) good for me, bad for him. I would go so far as to say that he epitomizes the average Madden purchaser. Could we see record numbers of returns in Madden 13's first week of release? Possibly, or those same people that don't know about the missing features will simply not care or are so accustomed to things being removed that they deal with it and vow not to purchase next year. Yeah, my nephew always says he's gonna wait till the first patch, but he never does.
    As I said...if you are a young guy with a lot of time on your hands...then this is probably a big issue for you. If you are an older guy such as myself, with a wife, a family, and a house to take care of (as are all of the people I know who play this game) then its a very small issue. Just wanted to make that clear.

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    • TreFacTor
      MVP
      • Oct 2009
      • 1138

      #992
      Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

      Originally posted by treq21
      As I said...if you are a young guy with a lot of time on your hands...then this is probably a big issue for you. If you are an older guy such as myself, with a wife, a family, and a house to take care of (as are all of the people I know who play this game) then its a very small issue. Just wanted to make that clear.
      I'm a grandfather, have a wife and 21, 19, 13 year old children. Part of why this is a huge issue with me is the way it alters the way my family has played madden for as long as I remember. Your statement is insulting, and broadly generic. There's only one other person here at OS that I think is older than me (j/k) and he's 50, and he has also commented in favor of the return of these "very small" missing features.

      BTW, my nephew I used as an example is 27 year old.
      Last edited by TreFacTor; 06-19-2012, 01:42 PM.
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      • DNMHIII
        MVP
        • Feb 2011
        • 2355

        #993
        Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

        Originally posted by treq21
        As I said...if you are a young guy with a lot of time on your hands...then this is probably a big issue for you. If you are an older guy such as myself, with a wife, a family, and a house to take care of (as are all of the people I know who play this game) then its a very small issue. Just wanted to make that clear.
        WTF?..........lol

        I think you're attempting to make editing out to be some type of huge time consuming thing in your mind and thats a total joke. Maybe someone invests two hours into editing before they start a franchise and then an hour or so before every season to edit rookies.

        Editing doesn't have anything to do with how old you are or how much time you have on your hands and it has everything to do with how invested you want to be with your own experience with the game.

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        • roadman
          *ll St*r
          • Aug 2003
          • 26339

          #994
          Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

          Originally posted by TreFacTor
          I'm a grandfather, have a wife and 21, 19, 13 year old children. Part of why this is a huge issue with me is the way it alters the way my family has played madden for as long as I remember. Your statement is insulting, and broadly generic. There's only one other person here at OS that I think is older than me (j/k) and he's 50, and he has also commented in favor of the return of these "very small" missing features.
          I'm the same age, but I've never used these feature as long as I've been playing Madden. I do support those that do though, because if something was left out for me with the game for the game I play, I'd be upset too, but not sure for how long.

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          • treq21
            Banned
            • Mar 2005
            • 419

            #995
            Originally posted by TreFacTor
            I'm a grandfather, have a wife and 21, 19, 13 year old children. Part of why this is a huge issue with me is the way it alters the way my family has played madden for as long as I remember. Your statement is insulting, and broadly generic. There's only one other person here at OS that I think is older than me (j/k) and he's 50, and he has also commented in favor of the return of these "very small" missing features.

            BTW, my nephew I used as an example is 27 year old.
            Well if I have offended you, then I apologize. Good grief. its a game.

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            • TreFacTor
              MVP
              • Oct 2009
              • 1138

              #996
              Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

              Originally posted by roadman
              I'm the same age, but I've never used these feature as long as I've been playing Madden. I do support those that do though, because if something was left out for me with the game for the game I play, I'd be upset too, but not sure for how long.
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              • Yeats
                MVP
                • Mar 2012
                • 1581

                #997
                Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                Originally posted by TreFacTor
                Your statement is insulting, and broadly generic.
                I'm in my 50's, I edit rosters, I won't buy Madden without editing capabilities, and I didn't find his statement to be either insulting or generic. It's probably very close to the reality, c'mon now. It's a kid's occupation, let's face it.

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                • themassacre771.1
                  Rookie
                  • May 2011
                  • 331

                  #998
                  Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                  Everyone is getting so damn old waiting for an elite Madden. We need that 10/10 madden to be created and to launch ASAP.

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                  • DNMHIII
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2355

                    #999
                    Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                    Originally posted by themassacre771.1
                    Everyone is getting so damn old waiting for an elite Madden. We need that 10/10 madden to be created and to launch ASAP.
                    Agreed.......I feel like next gen Madden has been a complete Frankestein like effort and it lacked direction. I hope someday someone takes over at EA that has great vision and takes both NCAA and Madden in a better direction than its gone the past 6 or 7 years. I think the standards at EA with NCAA and Madden have been terrible and way too many things just slip through the cracks or just get completely ignored and end up in the game. The NCAA import from last year is a great example of how low the standards have been IMO.

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                    • themassacre771.1
                      Rookie
                      • May 2011
                      • 331

                      #1000
                      Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                      Originally posted by DNMHIII
                      Agreed.......I feel like next gen Madden has been a complete Frankestein like effort and it lacked direction. I hope someday someone takes over at EA that has great vision and takes both NCAA and Madden in a better direction than its gone the past 6 or 7 years. I think the standards at EA with NCAA and Madden have been terrible and way too many things just slip through the cracks or just get completely ignored and end up in the game. The NCAA import from last year is a great example of how low the standards have been IMO.
                      Yeah this gen of Madden has been mediocre at best. Simple as that. I do, however, think they are going in a good direction right now. Focusing on career modes and gameplay. I think they really just did not realize how important those features they took out were. That's why Looman called them "little things". He just did not know. Hopefully he puts all that stuff in next year along with some new things and we get that great madden before all the new consoles launch. (this may be me wishing because this would delay me from having to buy a new console). We shall see friends.

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                      • StrawHat Patriot
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 876

                        #1001
                        Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                        Like I said, when you compare Madden NFL 12 to real life and look at every part of the core gameplay, you would think it's an arcade based game not trying to be realistic. Like Franchise408 said, it just isn't a competent game of football gameplay wise. It's almost pathetic how unrealistic it is, going from the movement of the players, to liberty we have with audibles and offense/defensive hot routes, to how bad the challenge system is, and the slight lack of penalties. After 7 years, of Next-gen, I don't EA will release a competent game of NFL football. I know Josh Looman is moving in a "good direction" with Madden, but the decision making of this team might scare me. I mean online multiplayer CC but no offline multiplayer CC?

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                        • cuttingteeth
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 627

                          #1002
                          Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                          Truly the "...too much time on our hands" comment was another big contradiction thrown at us who want our beloved editing features back. Why? Because the time it's going to take to do thousands of practice sessions for XP points that you "hope" are going to allow your players to progress properly, it will take exponentially longer to achieve results compared to just having a full, quick edit option and/or sharing other edited rosters to use in-season.
                          Last edited by cuttingteeth; 06-19-2012, 03:01 PM.
                          I'm still playing NCAA 14 and Madden 25...and you know, it's alright.

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                          • StrawHat Patriot
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 876

                            #1003
                            Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                            Originally posted by cuttingteeth
                            Truly the "...too much time on our hands" comment was another big contradiction thrown at us who want our beloved editing features back. Why? Because the time it's going to take to do thousands of practice sessions for XP points that you "hope" are going to allow your player to progress properly, it will take exponentially longer to achieve compared to just having a full, quick edit option and/or shared, other edited rosters to use in-season.
                            True, good point. But those who are saying "too much time on our hands" are those who might not even know what the feature is meant for. Just because some of them don't use it, they don't have the right bash on us. I mean, some people in hate how badly done the equipment was for some players. Some didn't like how retired jersey numbers were used for players. Many things editing is used for.

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                            • SteelerSpartan
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 2884

                              #1004
                              Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                              If they ever got

                              Improved Running/Momentum(End of Zig-Zagging)
                              Realistic and Dynamic OL/DL/Pocket Play

                              Plus add Back what we lost this year in CC Mode and Id be doing this come Football Season

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                              • briz1744
                                Rookie
                                • May 2012
                                • 207

                                #1005
                                Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                                Originally posted by themassacre771.1
                                Yeah this gen of Madden has been mediocre at best. Simple as that. I do, however, think they are going in a good direction right now. Focusing on career modes and gameplay. I think they really just did not realize how important those features they took out were. That's why Looman called them "little things". He just did not know. Hopefully he puts all that stuff in next year along with some new things and we get that great madden before all the new consoles launch. (this may be me wishing because this would delay me from having to buy a new console). We shall see friends.
                                Looman seemed to know how important they were last year when he was talking up allowing ratings editing in franchise tho

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